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Please stop the nerf threads

HooisierBoy
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This is getting out of hand, every other thread is nerf this and nerf that. Nerf the shield stacking sorc, nerf wrecking blow, nerf Bol, nerf NB cloak, nerf nerf nerf. Instead of constantly asking for nerfs how about asking for buffs to certain skills or ask for more skills to the game that can help offset the current ones. Clearly every time we get changes to the skills they don't ever work as intended or they change them so you end up getting nerfed to hell and back, so please dont ask for more nerfs. Ask for more skills or buffs to the current ones to offset the other ones to a certain degree. Remember there is really never balance to any mmo, it is impossible I repeat it is impossible, unless every class have the same skill sets plain and simple.
  • corrosivechains
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    I honestly think the biggest problem is that ZOS puts entirely too much stock into what streamers say need nerfed or buffed, and not enough into what the rest of the community says. These people have a vested interest in having their playstyle catered too, and when they're showing off their reasoning why, it's nearly always in a controlled environment with their friends in secluded areas with little chance of any real PvP happening to them.

    Do some things need nerfing? Yes
    Do some things need buffing? Most definitely Yes

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  • Lenikus
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    Nerf nerfing.
    Rly, tho, "Balance" is not " DK = NB = Sorc = Temp,
    Balance is NB > DK > Sorc > Temp > NB or something like that.
    Edited by Lenikus on 14 February 2016 20:08
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  • Mr.Hmm
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    Balance the classes? not going to happen.

    But doing unnecessary nerfs? ZoS seems to love these.
    I am sorry but Zos does unnecessary nerfs and unnecessary buffs. They nearly never listen to feedback we give them.
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  • Linkrunner
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    I'm tired of people saying nerf this too. I think they need to look at making separate skills just for PVP.
    PVE content keeps getting tougher, yet they nerf skills because it's too good in PVP.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    This thread needs to be nerfed. You too OP.
  • rager82b14_ESO
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    This thread makes me laugh. Years of feedback and beta testing feedback showed nothing. If they are not going to buff skills like players want. It is better to get others nerfed down to the quality of what you are. That way you stand a chance.


    That is how it works. How it always worked. The reason why this mindset is like this, is because of this devs team. They don't have the skill to make timely adjustments for testing. They update classes way too slow, and they leave skills like Leeching strikes and Templar skills as they are for so long it shows the quality of the devs team.


    In other words, Nerf Sorcs.
    Edited by rager82b14_ESO on 14 February 2016 20:46
  • Moonshadow66
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    nvm
    Edited by Moonshadow66 on 14 February 2016 22:21
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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Please stop the stop nerfing threads!!

    Nerf threads are second only to Alliance War threads for entertainment at work.
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Too late to care, ZOS already took the nerf hammer to my sub.
  • Justice31st
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    Seriously, stay away from these toxic nerf threads, and bring more buff threads.
    "The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."
  • Speely
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    Nerfs to classes are not needed. I keep saying this into a vacuum, but I will say it again: Resource recovery is too high. These "problem" skills are only problems because they can be spammed nigh-infinitely. If sustain of this kind were only possible by seriously reducing potency, there would be no problem. If players had to balance power vs sustain in a real way, then resource management would direct battles more often.

    Additionally, this would naturally reduce TTK in a less arbitrary way than the Cyrodiil Battle Buff. I know players want to just spam stuff all day, but players want all kinds of silly crap. It's not always good for the game. ESO was supposed to be a resource-based game. Thanks to Champion passives and gear, resource management is an abstraction for most well-prepared players.

    Most of the consternation players feel about perceived skill imbalance would vanish if literally EVERY player had to consider resource management for their main resource.

    Granted, there should be ways to increase sustain... Just not in such a way that basically negates skill cost. There are tons of players for whom skill cost is literally not an issue. Why have skill costs at all in that case?

  • rager82b14_ESO
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    If asking for buffs for years has not done anything. Yet nerfs keep going down. What type of moron would keep asking for buffs? Instead asking for nerfs seems to get things done.
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