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Dragon Leap Bug

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Thugnifcent
Thugnifcent
Soul Shriven
Can someone please explain to me how the hell biting jabs cancelled my dragon leap when it has no cast time? TWICE. On top of everything when i need the ultimate the most it doesnt work and i stay stuck on the ground with my wings out. This needs to be fixed ASAP.
  • Angus
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    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    Edited by Angus on 26 January 2016 18:22
    Angus of Noquar franchise.
    And some others.
  • Thugnifcent
    Thugnifcent
    Soul Shriven
    Yeah that i know, but what about when you are about to perform the leap and a templar spams biting jabs? I dont think its supposed to stop ferocious leap which has NO cast time..
  • Ashamray
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    It has no cast time but it has a travel time. Obviously?
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  • Leandor
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    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.
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  • Thugnifcent
    Thugnifcent
    Soul Shriven
    Ashamray wrote: »
    It has no cast time but it has a travel time. Obviously?

    Okay travel time but that travel time is not a cast time. Therefore. Biting jabs should not completely stop it as if you were casting it. Thats like saying you could interrupt ambush with biting jabs every single time. And if that IS ACTUALLY the case?then it needs to get nerfed. Biting jabs already do enough damage but to also interrupt everything?overpowered.
  • Ashamray
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    If u say "Bitting Jabs are OP" just go to play Templar pvp. Go. To play. Templar.
    Alarm, Wrecking Blow also can make you a baseball - all stuns can, not only a stun from Jabs. Maybe roots too.
    Edited by Ashamray on 26 January 2016 22:40
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  • Toast_STS
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    yeah, nerf templar
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  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    If you think that's bad try playing a templar with no worthwhile ulti
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  • Angus
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.

    I agree, it's pretty frustrating to lose a good fight over it.

    I've also noticed that when it doesn't go off right, sometimes I get around 50% of my ultimate back way faster than I should - e.g I'll wonder why the leap didn't happen, look down, and have 50-60% ult with absolutely no way that could have generated in the couple seconds since the glitch-leap.

    One of these times I get it on video and see what happened.

    It's an edge case though, I'd rather see the gamebreaking stuff fixed first.
    Angus of Noquar franchise.
    And some others.
  • MrGigglypants
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.

    Meteor can be reflect, dawnbreaker can have similiar effects, soul assault can be bashed and man others can just be walked out of lol. Cc before you leap problem solved.
  • Leandor
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    MrGigglypants wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.
    Meteor can be reflect, dawnbreaker can have similiar effects, soul assault can be bashed and man others can just be walked out of lol. Cc before you leap problem solved.

    Reflect is fine, one can back-reflect. It's a counter that is being performed by opponent.

    Dawnbreaker goes off every time except if you're silenced and then doesn't lose your ultimate. Targetting it is a L2P issue.

    Soul assault being bashed is a similar issue - instant abilities should not be bashable. We agree on this one.

    Walking out of the area of effect is something completely different. What remains is still denial of area if you do not want to be subjected to its effects.
    Edited by Leandor on 27 January 2016 17:36
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  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.

    No one has ever dodge rolled a Soul Harvest?

    If you had cc immunity and jabs cancelled the Leap, then sure, that would be crap.
  • Dredlord
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.

    Bats and dawnbreaker work this way.

    Pop an imoveable pot if you dont like this happening.
  • Xeniph
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    Leap can be interrupted during flight time.

    It's funniest to do it with the Destro fire staff KB. Funny as hell to see a DK mid flight knocked back.

    But any interrupt, KB can prevent a leap.

    And as the guy above says, immovable skill/pot or having immunity up will keep it from happening.
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  • Cinbri
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    Agree with OP, it is cheese mechanic and should not exist.
  • Tankqull
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Angus wrote: »
    I believe that any time you are stunned or rooted, leap does not work. Which makes sense, but the glitchy wings that appear afterward gotta go.
    I agree that this behaviour is tolerable, but not the fact that you lose all ultimate without effect. No other ultimate behaves that way.

    all ultis with an animation time act like that - perfect example is dawnbreaker with its endless animation
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


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