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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Stamina NB Build

  • revonine
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    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?
  • ThePonzzz
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    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.
  • Brrrofski
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.

    Not sure you can.

    Depends how you like playing. You can go lowish regen and pray you'll quick. Maybe run syphoning strikes. I like regen.

    I run drink in pvp so have 21k health, 27is stam, 3.5 weapon damage, 2.2k stam regen and around 1k magica regen. That works for me. An extra bit of weapon damage at the cost of significant regen isn't worth it for me. A few hundred extra damage on a skill at the expense of survivability... I'll pass.
    Edited by Brrrofski on 8 January 2016 17:13
  • revonine
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.

    What race are you? Does it have max stamina bonuses? Also the Undaunted Passives they add a significant amount to your max stats at max rank.
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.

    Not sure you can.

    Depends how you like playing. You can go lowish regen and pray you'll quick. Maybe run syphoning strikes. I like regen.

    I run drink in pvp so have 21k health, 27is stam, 3.5 weapon damage, 2.2k stam regen and around 1k magica regen. That works for me. An extra bit of weapon damage at the cost of significant regen isn't worth it for me. A few hundred extra damage on a skill at the expense of survivability... I'll pass.

    EDIT: and this. Maximum damage is not the be all end all, regen is far more important especially if you happen accross a good opponent. Focus on you getting your regen up to scratch first. When I chose too, I never had an issue "ganking" with 3.5K weapon damage. With poor regen if you run into a single opponent that knows how to CC you, you are screwed. Personally I prefer to have regen because I like small scale, if and when there's small scale :(
    Edited by revonine on 8 January 2016 19:16
  • MalevolentGame
    Stamina DK and Magic Sorc out Monday :)
  • Skinzz
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • blur
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage

    @xskinzcity
    Curious how you have 4894 weapon damage without Kena. Are you running DW Swords?
    Because with Maces and best in slot gear this is my current setup:
    PCCBQHc.jpg

    Mind you I can get more Regen and keep my weapon damage, I just made this screenshot on the fly
  • blur
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    Also, having as much Weapon Damage as OP but relying on a proc buff from a crit to get it is rather pointless. If you are going to stack weapon damage at the expense of everything else you want to frontload your opening attack. This is something you are not doing with 5pc Briars. Also you can see in the video he is smashing noobs while staying under 10% stamina. For crying out loud you are fighting sorcs that hard cast frags... ;) this is not much of a benchmark :p
    Edited by blur on 9 January 2016 23:40
  • Skinzz
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    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage

    @xskinzcity
    Curious how you have 4894 weapon damage without Kena. Are you running DW Swords?
    Because with Maces and best in slot gear this is my current setup:
    PCCBQHc.jpg

    Mind you I can get more Regen and keep my weapon damage, I just made this screenshot on the fly


    W
    Im running dual maces with weapon power enchants.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • blur
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage

    @xskinzcity
    Curious how you have 4894 weapon damage without Kena. Are you running DW Swords?
    Because with Maces and best in slot gear this is my current setup:
    PCCBQHc.jpg

    Mind you I can get more Regen and keep my weapon damage, I just made this screenshot on the fly


    W
    Im running dual maces with weapon power enchants.

    @xskinzcity
    Screenshot like I did and give account for your stats with sets please. I can't see how it's possible as I am running all the sets that allow you to frontload weapon damage without a gimmick and maintain 4785. You don't even have Kena so I can't see how you manage it. Now that you say you are using maces, I really need to see this.
  • Skinzz
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    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage

    @xskinzcity
    Curious how you have 4894 weapon damage without Kena. Are you running DW Swords?
    Because with Maces and best in slot gear this is my current setup:
    PCCBQHc.jpg

    Mind you I can get more Regen and keep my weapon damage, I just made this screenshot on the fly


    W
    Im running dual maces with weapon power enchants.

    @xskinzcity
    Screenshot like I did and give account for your stats with sets please. I can't see how it's possible as I am running all the sets that allow you to frontload weapon damage without a gimmick and maintain 4785. You don't even have Kena so I can't see how you manage it. Now that you say you are using maces, I really need to see this.


    Morkuldin set provides the same weapon damage that kena provides and yes ill try to take a screen but im on console. Gonna have to catch a screen when everything procs.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Skinzz
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    And also are u runnng the weapon power enchants on your maces? Cause when Im in stealth my weapon damage is 4543 without them.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • blur
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    blur wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    I honestly would never step foot in Cyrodill without 2K regen minimum for long fights but it seems to be working for the OP so props for that. It has got me interested in Briarheart though. Has anyone used it in PvP? What are the proc rates like?

    It's not too bad, but I wouldn't say it's a game changer. It's saved me a few times with the health regen.

    But again, how do you get to 2k stamina regen and still keep everything else. I've seen some answers, but getting to 1534 stamina recovery has come at the cost of health, damage, and max stamina. How do you get 30k stamina and weapon damage over 4k. That's basically the info I'd love to know. I only have 309 CPs though, maybe that's it.


    So i switched my build over to 4 pc morkuldin and 5 pc hundings. My weapon damage pretty much stayed the same but my max stam is almost 31000 unbuffed. My pvp stats fully buffed with max health plus stam recovery food:

    23k health
    10200 magicka
    30500 stamina
    1880 stam recovery
    4894 weapon damage

    @xskinzcity
    Curious how you have 4894 weapon damage without Kena. Are you running DW Swords?
    Because with Maces and best in slot gear this is my current setup:
    PCCBQHc.jpg

    Mind you I can get more Regen and keep my weapon damage, I just made this screenshot on the fly


    W
    Im running dual maces with weapon power enchants.

    @xskinzcity
    Screenshot like I did and give account for your stats with sets please. I can't see how it's possible as I am running all the sets that allow you to frontload weapon damage without a gimmick and maintain 4785. You don't even have Kena so I can't see how you manage it. Now that you say you are using maces, I really need to see this.


    Morkuldin set provides the same weapon damage that kena provides and yes ill try to take a screen but im on console. Gonna have to catch a screen when everything procs.

    Morkuldin requires you to 4slot. Night Mother requires 3. If you go NM + Kena you get 129 more than if you ran Mork. Which I do.

    Now, with weapon enchants that requires you to open up first with an attack and that attack does not even guarantee a proc. Moreover with 174 weapon damage enchant on my mace when it does proc I get 211 weapon damage (in cyrodiil), not 174, and adding a second enchant to the offhand weapon does nothing at all. That said, I can't see how you have your numbers. At best you would have 4867 if you are lucky enough to proc and then immediately used Dark Cloak to get the bonus from the Master Assassin passive. Again this would be luck based and your best case scenario. Unless you are in Cyrodiil with Offensive Scroll Bonus 2. That 5% buff doesn't count and you should give account while not in Cyrodiil.
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    And also are u runnng the weapon power enchants on your maces? Cause when Im in stealth my weapon damage is 4543 without them.

    Actually that screenshot of mine is without weapon enchants.
    Edited by blur on 10 January 2016 00:34
  • NoS_smoke
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    I got 2800 buffed recovery on my bow bar and 2600 on dw bar. I keep 4400 buffed weapon dmg. Serpent mundus. Getting to 5k is not worth the stamina regen. Stamina regen is how you kill multiple opponents or 1 or 2 good ones. Also magicka recovery is key to survival as well. Drinks over food in PvP. If you go food then you are either on a descent sized team or you only intend on a quick gank and get out.
    Edited by NoS_smoke on 10 January 2016 02:24
  • blur
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    zos-smoke wrote: »
    I got 2800 buffed recovery on my bow bar and 2600 on dw bar. I keep 4400 buffed weapon dmg. Serpent mundus. Getting to 5k is not worth the stamina regen. Stamina regen is how you kill multiple opponents or 1 or 2 good ones. Also magicka recovery is key to survival as well. Drinks over food in PvP. If you go food then you are either on a descent sized team or you only intend on a quick gank and get out.

    I usually run with close to 2k regen and I do fine and I am a solo player for the most part.
    Also I would love to see how you maintain 4400 WD with 2800 Regen without Rally. Even if you are using a potion at some point you won't have the Major Brut buff, same goes with the rest of the "on hits" (FlyingB/PowerE/Weapon Enchant). Unless you are counting on hit buffs and Cyrodiil scroll bonus, I would like to see a screenshot of this and or your gear setup. 2800 is pretty bad ass. I would certainly drop some WD for it.
  • revonine
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    zos-smoke wrote: »
    I got 2800 buffed recovery on my bow bar and 2600 on dw bar. I keep 4400 buffed weapon dmg. Serpent mundus. Getting to 5k is not worth the stamina regen. Stamina regen is how you kill multiple opponents or 1 or 2 good ones. Also magicka recovery is key to survival as well. Drinks over food in PvP. If you go food then you are either on a descent sized team or you only intend on a quick gank and get out.

    Is that including tri-pots?
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