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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Stamina NB Build

MalevolentGame
Probably late to post but have been working on this build for a few months as well as a dk and sorc which will have videos soon. Would just like to know the general response of what you think. Current buffed damage without Maelstrom daggers is 5.2k, with them will be closer to 6.
  • davey1107
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    U B deadly
  • NoS_smoke
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    Hmm. 5200. Tell me what unbuffed weapon dmg is bc ppl define buffed differently. And maelstrom daggers don't really increase weapon damage bc you have to drop 2 set bonuses and 2 enchants. Your Regen is too low to avoid dmg from players in 1vX. Maybe your just really skillful and don't need to avoid damage much but I have found that under 1500 stam Regen is pretty much impossible for me to 1vs 2 with unless those players are terrible. Unless you mainly like ganking only. Then go for high weapon damage and food over stam and magicka regen. Hell when I snipe zergs I switch to food too. I use the maelstrom bow but not a fan of the daggers.
  • deltascout112
    nice
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Sick, whats sets are you using?

    @zos-smoke probably a pve build so the low regen isnt a problem.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • Knootewoot
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    How does one get it to 5200. when I was stam build NB (Breton) wearing all V16 yellow (crafted) gear, like 5 hunding + 4 night mother and agility rings all WD enchanted and WD buff I barely got 4k. Is there a secret buff that ups the WD I don't know of? I also put all point in damage in CP-tree.

    But nice. The regen could be better, but would be no problem once the shadow set is V16. Just hide and regenerate :)

    #WTB_softcaps

    Edited by Knootewoot on 7 January 2016 10:44
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Kinda pointless to have so much damage with no regen against good player's. It's the player's with good sustain that scare me.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 7 January 2016 18:17
    PS4 NA DC
  • Dakrana_Thrazvoth
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    Your stamina regen is really bad, with longer fights against skilled players you're just dead.
  • MalevolentGame
    Made the build video waiting for it to export then I'll post here
  • MalevolentGame
    Taking a while to upload from twitch :neutral:
    Edited by MalevolentGame on 8 January 2016 00:57
  • SoulAffliction
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    Any update on build video?
  • MalevolentGame
    Still waiting on it to Upload from Twitch Soul, has taken a few hours so far. Hoping it's ready soon. Sorry
  • SoulAffliction
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    No worries mate!
  • MalevolentGame
    After 36 (yes thirty freaking six) fails to export I give up, here's a link to my new twitch with the broadcast for the build. http://www.twitch.tv/malevolentgame/profile
  • MalevolentGame
  • Skinzz
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    You were basically wrecking low level/low ranked pvp players lol. Now try it again vs v16 centurion shield stacking sorcs.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • ThePonzzz
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    Anyone able to post the details on how weapon damage gets so high (that's not a video)? I realize there is a video. I also notice that many are saying stamina recovery is too low. But I've seen decent DPS builds with under 900. I sit at 1531 which helps me out, but it comes with some other sacrifices.
  • Skinzz
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    My stam nightblade build sits at 4894 weapon damage with 30k max stamina and 1840 stam recovery.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • ThePonzzz
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    My stam nightblade build sits at 4894 weapon damage with 30k max stamina and 1840 stam recovery.

    Are you willing to say how?
  • MalevolentGame
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    You were basically wrecking low level/low ranked pvp players lol. Now try it again vs v16 centurion shield stacking sorcs.

    that was the third video, I kill everybody of every level in it; but thanks for the opinion lol
  • Septimus_Magna
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    My stam nightblade build sits at 4894 weapon damage with 30k max stamina and 1840 stam recovery.

    Whats sets are you using?
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • Skinzz
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    My stam nightblade build sits at 4894 weapon damage with 30k max stamina and 1840 stam recovery.

    Are you willing to say how?
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    My stam nightblade build sits at 4894 weapon damage with 30k max stamina and 1840 stam recovery.

    Whats sets are you using?

    In runnin all v16 gear/legendary/legendary enchants and weapon damage glyphs on everything. Im using hundings rage, kena and night mothers plus agility jewelry. Im currently experimenting with morkuldin so some changes will be made. Flawless dawnbreaker is a must to achieve those numbers. Currently have 22% cp for mooncalf.

    Oh btw sorry for kinda hijacking your thread OP. Lol..

    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • ThePonzzz
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    Ah, Flawless Dawnbreaker. I'm sitting at 4000+ weapon damage (don't have exacts at the moment). But only on a burst (so Rally, Minor Savagery, Stealth). But I don't have as much stamina as you. Using 5 Hunding, 5 Briarheart, 2 Night Mother's Gaze, all legendary and enchanted. Infused everything for armor, except 1 Divines (working on swapping this, just waiting on a Briarheart drop). Stamina on all armor. Crushing/Weapon damage on weapons. Jewelry is weapon damage and 2 reduce ability costs. I'm using Warrior for my mundas, because I've tested The Shadow a whole lot, and I do more damage with The Warrior.
  • Skinzz
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    Ah, Flawless Dawnbreaker. I'm sitting at 4000+ weapon damage (don't have exacts at the moment). But only on a burst (so Rally, Minor Savagery, Stealth). But I don't have as much stamina as you. Using 5 Hunding, 5 Briarheart, 2 Night Mother's Gaze, all legendary and enchanted. Infused everything for armor, except 1 Divines (working on swapping this, just waiting on a Briarheart drop). Stamina on all armor. Crushing/Weapon damage on weapons. Jewelry is weapon damage and 2 reduce ability costs. I'm using Warrior for my mundas, because I've tested The Shadow a whole lot, and I do more damage with The Warrior.


    Oh yeah i forgot to mention im using warrior stone as well and 4 pc divines
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • MalevolentGame
    No need to be sorry skinz, everybody will use different builds tailored to different playstyles/preferences and instincts. The least we could all do is learn and support. Keep it up :)
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Im a little confused, are these pvp or pve builds?

    My (out-dated) pvp setup has 1.8 stam regen with 3.8k weapon dmg and I have to manage my stamina carefully, especially in bigger fights and 1vX situations.

    For ganking 900 stam regen might be enough but for "normal" fights around keeps/resources etc Im pretty sure its way too low, at least for my playstyle.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • MalevolentGame
    All I make are pvp builds
  • Septimus_Magna
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    All I make are pvp builds

    How do you sustain in fights with only 900 stam regen?
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • Brrrofski
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    You mention using weapon power pots.

    They don't stack with rally, so you'd be better off running standard tri pots or immovable pots.

    I don't know how you play with 800 stam regen. Sometimes I kill people in a few hits, but when I'm fighting multiples or really good players, they can last minutes. I like 1800 minimum regen on all my builds.

    But hey, yours works for you obviously.

    Also, I personally rather stack regen than reduce cost. Main reason is stacking reduction is less gain. The more you reduce, the less the next reduction is. Regen increases with each point. So I like stacking regen.
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