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can we actually make Wall of Elements deal real damage?

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atm it's just a massive Magicka sink, atleast the other spells have an impact even if the damage sucks but Wall does pretty much nothing but tickle
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  • tinythinker
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    Easier just to rename: Tickle of Elements.
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    It's just a l2p issue.
    WoE is not a damage skill. If you set up your cp correct, friendly players from other alliances can use it to heal you.
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    But that would make Destro staff better, and we've seen that ZOS are doing everything in their power to make sure that's not so.
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    lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »
    It's just a l2p issue.
    WoE is not a damage skill. If you set up your cp correct, friendly players from other alliances can use it to heal you.

    your almost serious answer made me laugh :)

    but really even the "exploding" morph is lacking, whoever chose the nerf on WoE, WAAAY over did it
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    lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »
    It's just a l2p issue.
    WoE is not a damage skill. If you set up your cp correct, friendly players from other alliances can use it to heal you.

    Nope. The lead nerf designer has said it was meant for melting stuff. L2ESO
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »
    It's just a l2p issue.
    WoE is not a damage skill. If you set up your cp correct, friendly players from other alliances can use it to heal you.

    Nope. The lead nerf designer has said it was meant for melting stuff. L2ESO

    well it does melt my magicka bar...
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    But in conjunction with awesome buff from Maelstrom's Inferno staff...no, wait...it still sucks.
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    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    But in conjunction with awesome buff from Maelstrom's Inferno staff...no, wait...it still sucks.

    oh no it melts things... mostly your magicka!
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    There are a lot of useless abilities in this game. Magicka builds in general have pretty lousy AOE. I would really like them to buff the hell out of necrotic orbs damage.
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    Yeah some of the scaling with stabilizes are awful.
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    Bring back the purge bug. Zergs will be f*cked and WoE will be useful again. Win win?
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    iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »
    There are a lot of useless abilities in this game. Magicka builds in general have pretty lousy AOE. I would really like them to buff the hell out of necrotic orbs damage.

    Weren't these actually NERFED in the last patch?
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope. The lead nerf designer has said it was meant for melting stuff. L2ESO

    You are referring to @Wrobel and I'm still trying to figure out how this actually melts anything besides Magicka. Much of the skills in the Destruction staff skill line do horrible damage, Force Shock does pitiful damage. But I think the worst was when they lowered the elemental proc rate, which IMO needs to be readjusted higher.
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    Bring back the purge bug. Zergs will be f*cked and WoE will be useful again. Win win?

    I miss those times, having 40 people die instantly and comms instantly break out into WHO PURGED!?!?! Then we notice little joe random skipping along purging.
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    No! ZOS cannot have Magicka doing more AoE damage than sta builds. Seriously guys, what MMO or even video game ever allows Magic have more AoE than weapons !!!! Come on!!!!
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope. The lead nerf designer has said it was meant for melting stuff. L2ESO

    You are referring to @Wrobel and I'm still trying to figure out how this actually melts anything besides Magicka. Much of the skills in the Destruction staff skill line do horrible damage, Force Shock does pitiful damage. But I think the worst was when they lowered the elemental proc rate, which IMO needs to be readjusted higher.

    I wasn't saying it melts anything. I was responding to the claim that Lol O Lolements is not intended for damage dealing. The lord of haphazard major combat system changes clearly does not agree.
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    i used wall on a pack of 3 mobs, then i used destructive clench... guess which did better at CCing and damaging at the same time? :s
    Edited by dsalter on 4 December 2015 16:47
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    I wasn't saying it melts anything. I was responding to the claim that Lol O Lolements is not intended for damage dealing. The lord of haphazard major combat system changes clearly does not agree.

    I know you weren't saying it melts anything, and that was my point. Eric was the one who claimed that it did, and clearly, players do not agree. ;)
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    I just assumed Wrobel meant stationary NPCs would melt -- that it was a PvE skill. I haven't used it in several months so I have no idea how it works for basic questing at the moment.
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    tinythinker wrote: »
    I just assumed Wrobel meant stationary NPCs would melt -- that it was a PvE skill. I haven't used it in several months so I have no idea how it works for basic questing at the moment.

    soul trap does more damage... so yeah...
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    Even when my Sorcerer was "new" and I was scrolling through the Skill lists, I bypassed WoE. Even for a beginning Sorcerer, it was apparent that the damage/DoT threshold was low for the cost in Magicka to cast it.

    It's why I've never sunk even a single skill point into the WoE skill. Even without trying it, one can see via simple comparison that it lags way behind other Skills as far as potential damage totals.
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    All I can say is its pretty disheartening when i'm on my magicka templar and I get paired with a stamina DPS who spams steel tornado and melts everything in sight.
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    daemonios wrote: »
    iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »
    There are a lot of useless abilities in this game. Magicka builds in general have pretty lousy AOE. I would really like them to buff the hell out of necrotic orbs damage.

    Weren't these actually NERFED in the last patch?

    I don't know.

    My necrotic orb will tick 3 - 4 times for a massive 1200 fully buffed. I mean most of the vet dungeons have trash mobs with 100k HP. What kind of crack do you have to be smoking to think 4800 damage is even remotely acceptable.
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    iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »
    All I can say is its pretty disheartening when i'm on my magicka templar and I get paired with a stamina DPS who spams steel tornado and melts everything in sight.

    steel tornado is OP, we all know this. However Dark Flare > impulse.....it can always be worse.

    I have yet to see any real testing done with WOE since like 1.6. I've done my own but don't have a maelstrom staff to see it's full potential yet.
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    Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
    Even when my Sorcerer was "new" and I was scrolling through the Skill lists, I bypassed WoE. Even for a beginning Sorcerer, it was apparent that the damage/DoT threshold was low for the cost in Magicka to cast it.

    It's why I've never sunk even a single skill point into the WoE skill. Even without trying it, one can see via simple comparison that it lags way behind other Skills as far as potential damage totals.

    I and many people have a soft spot for WOE because of how amazing fire Effects looked at launch. WOE made things burn. How freaking awesome was that!? It was never about damage since it always sucked.
    The only reason to use it back in the early days for dps was to generate ulti via crits. The graphics were ruined, the ultimate system was gutted down to meteor&overload.The skill lost any shine it had...people forgot about it for months... nobody cared.
    Fast forward...
    Orsinium comes and adds a top end game reward item buffing a worthless ,fugly skill and people remember about WOE... nobody cares.
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    You do know that Wall of Elements can't be blocked, yes?
    For that it's not so bad as a DoT.
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    duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO wrote: »
    You do know that Wall of Elements can't be blocked, yes?
    For that it's not so bad as a DoT.

    LoL . Why would anyone want to block something that one can get out of by taking 2 steps?
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    omg Wall of Elements is OP! i killed not one, but 2 scamps with it!... after casting it 3 times
    IC sewer scamps of course
    Edited by dsalter on 6 December 2015 15:08
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    dsalter wrote: »
    omg Wall of Elements is OP! i killed not one, but 2 scamps with it!... after casting it 3 times
    IC sewer scamps of course

    wtf. OMG .... broken skill is OP.. pls fix and NURF
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    I tested it a lot in maelstrom arena lateky. It's awfull and the only molten thing is my Magicka pool :D
    I only have it on my main bar, because there is nothing else I can use to fill my bar since I dropped crystal fragments after I've come to realize, how useless it is in there damage wise.
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