Cloak only an issue since imperial city?

Ara_Valleria · October 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Wish I had a skill that negates all single target attacks for 4 seconds with such a low resource cost...

The stealthing, removal of DoTs, attack bonus on next attack and speed boost I'd even give up on...

.. see what I did there ..

4 seconds ?

Lol

#TheIgnoranceIsReal

Ara_Valleria · October 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

Honestly im 100% fine with any cloaknerf if they remove all counters (even taking damage wont break you out)
Only people that complain are to lazy to fit in a counter, the people who actually use a counter do fine.

Just a side not, people only hate cloak because of the city and the power to avoid mobs I could perma cloak way more last patch then this patch so I found it odd people complained.

Cloak isnt OP and the amount of current counters are ridiculous
But overall cloak was stronger last patch (more regen)
Cloak is honestly popular because it makes it easy to get tel var stones thats mainly it.

(Example - Last patch I could perma cloak and keep 100% mana ready to attack, This patch you cant really do the same, sometimes I start fights at 20% - 50% mana)

THIS.

Ara_Valleria · October 2015

MonoAlva wrote: »

Wrecking blow spammers are actually driving me mad,i cant just understand which is the fun part of using just 1 skill to nuke/cc/and finally kill the enemy.

Umm...Sir, I don't think you are getting the point. We are here to nerf cloak not wrecking blow.

Cloak > WB

Cathexis · October 2015

Ara_Valleria wrote: »

Araxleon wrote: »

Honestly im 100% fine with any cloaknerf if they remove all counters (even taking damage wont break you out)
Only people that complain are to lazy to fit in a counter, the people who actually use a counter do fine.

Just a side not, people only hate cloak because of the city and the power to avoid mobs I could perma cloak way more last patch then this patch so I found it odd people complained.

Cloak isnt OP and the amount of current counters are ridiculous
But overall cloak was stronger last patch (more regen)
Cloak is honestly popular because it makes it easy to get tel var stones thats mainly it.

(Example - Last patch I could perma cloak and keep 100% mana ready to attack, This patch you cant really do the same, sometimes I start fights at 20% - 50% mana)

THIS.

Ara_Valleria wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Wish I had a skill that negates all single target attacks for 4 seconds with such a low resource cost...

The stealthing, removal of DoTs, attack bonus on next attack and speed boost I'd even give up on...

.. see what I did there ..

4 seconds ?

Lol

#TheIgnoranceIsReal

As I've said in many posts, the problem with cloak is not it's ability to be countered, it is its ability to (a) be used to indefinitely avoid damage and (b) be used as an auto escape from players around mobs.

Farorin · October 2015

Anyone who thinks cloak is too strong is just plain and simply, a bad player.

Cathexis · October 2015

Farorin wrote: »

Anyone who thinks cloak is too strong is just plain and simply, a bad player.

@Faronin
Magicka nightblades currently have the ability to control when a fight begins AND when it ends, at any time, irrespective of counters.
This rationale was used to implement changes to bolt escape and it's morphs (yes it had counters too, you just didn't use them).
Subsequently, no other class now currently has this capacity.
The exact same rationale applies here: a class has the absolute capacity to dictate the terms of a fight, and it has been determined, by popular opinion, that that capacity is imbalanced.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the players capacity.

Last season on Azura DC I hit top 2% and top 2% Sorcerers, so your theory about this having to do with player's ability is false.

Araxleon · October 2015

Cathexis wrote: »

Farorin wrote: »

Anyone who thinks cloak is too strong is just plain and simply, a bad player.

@Faronin
Magicka nightblades currently have the ability to control when a fight begins AND when it ends, at any time, irrespective of counters.
This rationale was used to implement changes to bolt escape and it's morphs (yes it had counters too, you just didn't use them).
Subsequently, no other class now currently has this capacity.
The exact same rationale applies here: a class has the absolute capacity to dictate the terms of a fight, and it has been determined, by popular opinion, that that capacity is imbalanced.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the players capacity.

Last season on Azura DC I hit top 2% and top 2% Sorcerers, so your theory about this having to do with player's ability is false.

Thats Nightblade in general having the power to escape and return, like seriously? Do you read class description?
thats like stating that dragon knights shouldnt be able to take a beating or templars shouldn't be best healers...

Magicka NB is pretty squishy outside cloak, now "any" good player can survive outside cloak but compared to most other classes we are weak outside cloak.

are you saying remove these skills that make nightblade a nightblade? are you saying nerf them? Do you want them to nerf NB escape options and make us more tanky? (whats the point in it being a nightblade then?)

and dont even bring "balance" into the picture, ZOS threw that away when CP was announced.

Ara_Valleria · October 2015

Cathexis wrote: »

Farorin wrote: »

Anyone who thinks cloak is too strong is just plain and simply, a bad player.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the players capacity.[/b]

Last season on Azura DC I hit top 2% and top 2% Sorcerers, so your theory about this having to do with player's ability is false.

So your definition of a good player is hitting the top 2% on the leaderboards ?
lol ok.