break free cc immunity no longer prevents you from being rooted?

xylena · March 2015

is this intentional? being constantly cc'ed is the opposite of fun pvp

Tankqull · March 2015

it never did for me ...

Skafsgaard · March 2015

I have noticed a lot of glitches. Like when I have immovable up, I keep getting wrecking blow in the air like a golf ball - what the deal? A lot of other stuff with perma CC'd etc is still at large, when few melee people rush me the same time my char gets down and keeps trying to get up, only to reset in his 'on the ground' position, it's weird and more rampant than I remember it to be, also getting knocked of your horse can cause this - im sure im not the only one?

is there some smart thing we as players can do to counter this 'perma' cc?

Warraxx · March 2015

Skafsgaard wrote: »

I have noticed a lot of glitches. Like when I have immovable up, I keep getting wrecking blow in the air like a golf ball - what the deal? A lot of other stuff with perma CC'd etc is still at large, when few melee people rush me the same time my char gets down and keeps trying to get up, only to reset in his 'on the ground' position, it's weird and more rampant than I remember it to be, also getting knocked of your horse can cause this - im sure im not the only one?

is there some smart thing we as players can do to counter this 'perma' cc?

immovable was nerf'd, read the new tool tip...

Xeniph · March 2015

CC immunity never did make you immune to roots. They are considered a soft cc.
Hence all the crying early game about talons spam.

At least now a lot of classes have access to the 40% run speed buff. As far as I know, the only skill that makes you immune to roots are retreating maneuvers.

Panda244 · March 2015

xylena wrote: »

is this intentional? being constantly cc'ed is the opposite of fun pvp

Roots aren't hard CCs, they never were effected by break free immunity. Run shuffle if you have to, nice dodge chance and immunity to snares/roots for a lil while.

technohic · March 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

xylena wrote: »

is this intentional? being constantly cc'ed is the opposite of fun pvp

Roots aren't hard CCs, they never were effected by break free immunity. Run shuffle if you have to, nice dodge chance and immunity to snares/roots for a lil while.

Think shuffle only works on snares, believe it or not.

Joy_Division · March 2015

CC immunity never applied to roots and snares.

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

Is that true about Shuffle though? I thought I remembered the patch notes saying something that suggested immunity to both roots and snares.

The 2H skill Forward Momentum still grants immunity to 'snares and immoblizes', IIRC. I thought Shuffle was supposed to do the same?

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

Found it: patch notes 1.6.2 say this:

•Shuffle (Evasion morph): This ability now has effects for its snare immunity and prevents you from being snared or immobilized in addition to granting the Major Evasion buff. The duration of the immunity is 0.5 seconds for each piece of Medium Armor equipped.

So we could probably use a clarification here: is the tooltip wrong or has the immunity to immobilizes been removed?

Lhorion · March 2015

technohic wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

xylena wrote: »

is this intentional? being constantly cc'ed is the opposite of fun pvp

Roots aren't hard CCs, they never were effected by break free immunity. Run shuffle if you have to, nice dodge chance and immunity to snares/roots for a lil while.

Think shuffle only works on snares, believe it or not.

This skill helps against roots, too (in the first few seconds).

Ezareth · March 2015

Eric Wroebel stated they were looking into a root "break free" mechanism and subsequent immunity but wanted to ensure that a cue was visible that denoted the immunity was present (similar to the white circles around your feet representing break free CC immunity).

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Eric Wroebel stated they were looking into a root "break free" mechanism and subsequent immunity but wanted to ensure that a cue was visible that denoted the immunity was present (similar to the white circles around your feet representing break free CC immunity).

When did he state that, Ezareth, do you know? That would be great.

Ezareth · March 2015

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Eric Wroebel stated they were looking into a root "break free" mechanism and subsequent immunity but wanted to ensure that a cue was visible that denoted the immunity was present (similar to the white circles around your feet representing break free CC immunity).

When did he state that, Ezareth, do you know? That would be great.

This was a week ago in a guild townhall-style TS Meeting.

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

Nice, thanks Ezareth.

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

Did anyone ever get confirmation as to whether Shuffle is supposed to protect vs. immobilize or not?

Volrion · September 2015

Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

But the only way to break free from a root is a dodge roll, but it grants no immunity, and dodge roll cost increases after the first.

So I can spam root all day long and there's nothing my enemy can do other than dodge roll over and over? At a significantly increased cost each time?

Surely this isn't an intended chain of events...

Cathexis · September 2015

SourishWhale wrote: »

Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

But the only way to break free from a root is a dodge roll, but it grants no immunity, and dodge roll cost increases after the first.

So I can spam root all day long and there's nothing my enemy can do other than dodge roll over and over? At a significantly increased cost each time?

Surely this isn't an intended chain of events...

Perhaps roots should also increase in cost?

So only forward momentum grants immunity?

I thought shuffle was supposed to as well too.

Domander · September 2015

SourishWhale wrote: »

Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

But the only way to break free from a root is a dodge roll, but it grants no immunity, and dodge roll cost increases after the first.

So I can spam root all day long and there's nothing my enemy can do other than dodge roll over and over? At a significantly increased cost each time?

Surely this isn't an intended chain of events...

Most roots can be blocked, the sorc one does no damage unless morphed to do so, and for talons (when they fix it) a dodge roll takes you out of range.

But yes, before this update all the dodge rolling made root useless.

Sarousse · September 2015

Evasion snare immunity also works on root for the same duration, I use it every day, it's just a tooltip fail.

Hammy01 · September 2015

Xeniph wrote: »

CC immunity never did make you immune to roots. They are considered a soft cc.
Hence all the crying early game about talons spam.

At least now a lot of classes have access to the 40% run speed buff. As far as I know, the only skill that makes you immune to roots are retreating maneuvers.

A lot of us should have access to the morphed Rapid Maneuver skill.... that is if ZOS had not broke it with the IC patch

danno8 · September 2015

SourishWhale wrote: »

Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

But the only way to break free from a root is a dodge roll, but it grants no immunity, and dodge roll cost increases after the first.

So I can spam root all day long and there's nothing my enemy can do other than dodge roll over and over? At a significantly increased cost each time?

Surely this isn't an intended chain of events...

Purge and Purifying Ritual also remove roots. I know I spam the hell out of PR on my Templar in PvP. I believe Bolt Escape still works and NB Teleport strike can still allow you some mobility.

Waffennacht · September 2015

Roots doesn't prevent you from casting, that's why no immunity. So you have to stand there... maybe a glass cannon doesn't always work.

I use roots, many other people use it too. When it's used against me, I typically don't use up my stamina to get out, I'll just keep casting spells. Either run some form of ranged attack, heal, or purge type move and then mix it up with the roll dodge.

Spamming roll dodge is a real quick way to lose. I've noticed even half way through battles most players will adapt and mix up which roots to dodge and which not to.

With the updates you don't have to protect yourself from ALL moves, just key ones. Its more than annoying to get close to killing a player and then have them improve lol.

Cathexis · September 2015

Sarousse wrote: »

Evasion snare immunity also works on root for the same duration, I use it every day, it's just a tooltip fail.

Thank goodness, I was worrying about how to get root immunity into my build without sacrificing rally.