Nirnhorned does not Count Forward to your total Spell-Res, its now a individual increes per item

Nirnhoned is not being nerfed, it's being fixed to work as it should have in the first place.

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Nirnhoned is not being nerfed, it's being fixed to work as it should have in the first place.

Are the prices going to be fixed too? I've been sadly paying around 17,000g for each Item I want to learn. How will this change affect the cost of this trait?

vamp_emily wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Nirnhoned is not being nerfed, it's being fixed to work as it should have in the first place.

Are the prices going to be fixed too? I've been sadly paying around 17,000g for each Item I want to learn. How will this change affect the cost of this trait?

I would imagine that Nircrux prices will still stay about the same as they are currently. Nirncrux will still only have a 0.25% drop rate, and players will still need them for research items and to craft armor and weapons. I don't see what the big fuss is about. I have more than maxed out spell resist without wearing a single piece of Nirnhoned armor.

Atleast they fixed it quicly /rolls eyes

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Nirnhoned is not being nerfed, it's being fixed to work as it should have in the first place.

Are the prices going to be fixed too? I've been sadly paying around 17,000g for each Item I want to learn. How will this change affect the cost of this trait?

I would imagine that Nircrux prices will still stay about the same as they are currently. Nirncrux will still only have a 0.25% drop rate, and players will still need them for research items and to craft armor and weapons. I don't see what the big fuss is about. I have more than maxed out spell resist without wearing a single piece of Nirnhoned armor.

how or you maxing out spell resist with out nirn

BRogueNZ wrote: »

Fortified boosted your total spell resistance. So your three items would see you at around 40k SR (a guess-timate) meaning you'd do more damage throwing a bowl of wet noodles than some spells.

Currently on PTS it only boosts the resitance for the armor item itself.

Potent, Im not so sure how its been affected.

As far as I know, Potent isn't affected. There's some changes coming to how penetration is calculated, but I don't think those are on PTS right now. If they are, it's a mechanical change, and not a change to Potent Nirncrux per say.

It's only the behavior of fortified that's been changed. To be fair, it'll still be really good in 1.7, but right now it's flat out broken.

Thecapeo wrote: »

So a dev actually said this wasn't intended yet it stayed in the game that way for months? I don't understand why ZOS fixes things at such a glacial pace.

In part, because any fixes that require a change on the client side have to be passed through Sony and Microsoft for approval.

That approval process isn't cheap. So it makes more sense to bundle a large number of fixes together and submit them all at once, instead of fixing them as they come up. At that point, you have to ask, is this single fix worth spending between $100k and 200k on, when you could put it off for three weeks, bundle it in with all the other fixes coming with the IC patch.

Also, this probably wasn't a high priority fix. It doesn't make the game unplayable, it doesn't cause the system to crash, it doesn't actively break characters, it just does what it was supposed to far too well.

In contrast to something that causes the game to crash, or something that will cause your character to be forever trapped in The Coloured Room or the Daggerfall Outlaw's Hideout, this is far less important.

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

That's not correct. While the drop rate isn't changing, the drop nodes are INCREASING.

Source for this please?

The lower craglorn surveys will have a chance at Nirncrux now. I don't think that all of Craglorn will have a chance. Though I suppose I could try nirn farming on PTS... I just don't really feel the desire to. No offense.

starkerealm wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

That's not correct. While the drop rate isn't changing, the drop nodes are INCREASING.

Source for this please?

The lower craglorn surveys will have a chance at Nirncrux now. I don't think that all of Craglorn will have a chance. Though I suppose I could try nirn farming on PTS... I just don't really feel the desire to. No offense.

Nirncrux will still only drop from nodes in Upper Craglorn. Yes, they will also drop from surveys in Lower Craglorn, but it won't drop from non-survey nodes in Lower Craglorn.

Price wise...

Yes there will be a few more in the supply line from lower craglorn writ rewards..

BUT:

Remember everybody will be making new gear.... V16 weapons will be being made with Potent Nirn so the demand for this will increase a lot in the short term... potentially leading to higher prices. There isnt any nerf to this, it's still the most desirable trait.

and you would expect a lot of people to be hitting the imperial city pretty hard to start with so there may be fewer people doing writs in the short term as well.

Flaminir wrote: »

Remember everybody will be making new gear.... V16 weapons will be being made with Potent Nirn so the demand for this will increase a lot in the short term... potentially leading to higher prices. There isnt any nerf to this, it's still the most desirable trait.

Really? At VR16 you are using crafted weapons, not something from a dropped set?

You make an interesting point. For armour, I don't think Nirn will be particulally interesting in the future; but if you are crafting a weapon, then it will maintain it's interest level.

Thecapeo wrote: »

So a dev actually said this wasn't intended yet it stayed in the game that way for months? I don't understand why ZOS fixes things at such a glacial pace.

Game breaking perk that benefits the "in game rich" Zenimax takes months to fix.

Game breaking perk that lets the "in game poor" farm materials easier fixed in a week.

Priorities okrrr! Haha.

Rvery gaming company will cry "oh it's just too difficult to fix" when it's something that effects the majority but when something benefits the majority it's done in a second.

In all light hearted-ness though that's an MMO for you

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Thecapeo wrote: »

So a dev actually said this wasn't intended yet it stayed in the game that way for months? I don't understand why ZOS fixes things at such a glacial pace.

Game breaking perk that benefits the "in game rich" Zenimax takes months to fix.

Game breaking perk that lets the "in game poor" farm materials easier fixed in a week.

Priorities okrrr! Haha.

Rvery gaming company will cry "oh it's just too difficult to fix" when it's something that effects the majority but when something benefits the majority it's done in a second.

In all light hearted-ness though that's an MMO for you

Or, it could just be that less than 10% of the players in this game are highly active PvPers, so the effects of this bug are limited to a very small subset of the population.

Waffennacht wrote: »

So the trait will only effect sets that offer spell resis or have been enchanted?

Just wanna be clear on (not your spell resis but your armor's peice spell resist?) that. I mean say I make a simple peice of armor with only nirn trait it will actually do nothing?

Each piece of armor gives both Armor and Spell Resistance. So if a piece of armor says 2796 on it, you get 2796 armor and 2796 spell resist from it. Reinforced will buff the armor part of it. Nirnhoned will buff the spell resist part of it.

Also, any claims by ZOS that this is how Nirnhoned was always supposed to work is baloney. When Nirnhoned was first released with Update 4, you did not get Spell Resistance from armor. So of course it was meant to buff your total spell resistance as the concept of spell resist being attached to an armor piece did not exist!

They decided it was overpowered and are nerfing it. They should just say that.