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Please fix instatnt Veteran 15 levelling up

  • Katinas
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    There will be plenty of new content that grants experience, both in PVE and in PVP. If you prefer to grind goblins to reach veteran 16 then that is your choice. I want to enjoy new content and get to veteran 15 and then veteran 16. Oh wait, I cannot. During the months of being veteran 14 I've gained experience and now all it takes me is to step on a mudcrab and here we go, I'm already halfway through the new gameplay I was offered, hooray!

    At the moment the level cap is veteran 14 and once you've reached it you should not be allowed to store experience towards another level that does not exist in the game yet. This is to what I apply, to the inconsistency of where the limits are. Completing achievements for example grant you achievement points. If you kill 50 Flame Collosi in veteran City of Ash dungeon you get [Veteran Flame Collosus Slayer] achievement and 10 achievement points. Can I please have 100 achievement points if I grind City of Ash and kill 500 Collosi? Can I please instantly be veteran 16 the moment I log in on 31st of August?
  • vortexman11
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    Katinas wrote: »
    There will be plenty of new content that grants experience, both in PVE and in PVP. If you prefer to grind goblins to reach veteran 16 then that is your choice. I want to enjoy new content and get to veteran 15 and then veteran 16. Oh wait, I cannot. During the months of being veteran 14 I've gained experience and now all it takes me is to step on a mudcrab and here we go, I'm already halfway through the new gameplay I was offered, hooray!

    At the moment the level cap is veteran 14 and once you've reached it you should not be allowed to store experience towards another level that does not exist in the game yet. This is to what I apply, to the inconsistency of where the limits are. Completing achievements for example grant you achievement points. If you kill 50 Flame Collosi in veteran City of Ash dungeon you get [Veteran Flame Collosus Slayer] achievement and 10 achievement points. Can I please have 100 achievement points if I grind City of Ash and kill 500 Collosi? Can I please instantly be veteran 16 the moment I log in on 31st of August?

    But how does being put at Vr15 affect you experiencing new content when it all scales anyways? What does your level have to do with the new content? It's not like there is a level cap on new content.
    Edited by vortexman11 on 16 August 2015 14:02
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  • Fissh
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    are u @#!ing serious? so all the xp ive earned all this time should get wiped?
    hell no!!
    Lock this thread FFS
    Are you serious? The upcoming update adds two veteran ranks. You want it to become just one rank the moment you gain any kind of experience (killing one mob that grants experience, exploring unvisited location, opening a locked box, completing a quest, etc.)? I want two veteran ranks, not one. I want to level up not in a matter of seconds but rather hours.

    Speak for yourself. What I want is for vet ranks to be gone. Like it has been talked about for a year. I EARNED that v15 level by playing on vr14s for faaaar to long without content. The very last thing I want to do is grind out two crap vet levels for content that is not even level specific. I mean....really? You WANT to grind two levels in what? IC? PVP Content?
    Yeah. Keep it the same. The OP knows not what he/she is saying and only THINKS to speak for all of us.
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  • Sacadon
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    I'm all for rewarding players based on effort and skill contributions.

    BUT... Considering ZOS devs have limited time and $ like we all do, I'd much rather they focus on significant and game-breaking bugs & exploits first.

    I just can't see this as relevant right now.

  • Fissh
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Why stop with 99% of a veteran rank worth of experience you can stack up between months of one level cap and the next? Why not then store infinite number of veteran ranks and be imediately granted all veteran ranks that are added with each level cap increase in major patches? So you immediately become veteran 16 when 2.1 comes out at the end of this month, then at next major upgrade you are immediately veteran 18, then in next few months you are immediately veteran 20? Can I pre-grind seventy eight veteran ranks worth of experience?
    Mojmir wrote: »
    So all the xp I earned from the last cap up til should go bye bye? Maybe I don't want too repeat stuff to get that xp back,while we're at it all the skills I leveled should go back too? Get real,stop imposing on my gametime. Its a hindrance if you DONT allow the xp I've earned to count.

    Yes. There should be no option to gain experience in advance prior to any upcoming level cap increase.
    Similar leveling up nonsense to what exists at the moment would be to allow the handful of existing Grand Overlords to stack alliance points to a possible added alliance rank so that they would instantly advance in next alliance rank if it were added in future.

    Do you see my point? Levelling up for one veteran rank is absolutely trivial, it takes one hour or so but I want to do it when the upgrade comes and not have it granted for me in some non existent veteran 14,001 -> 14,999.

    Why care? So you seek to grief me out of my 1 million xp on my vr14s for petty reasons. Get over yourself.
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  • The Uninvited
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    Katinas wrote: »
    There will be plenty of new content that grants experience, both in PVE and in PVP. If you prefer to grind goblins to reach veteran 16 then that is your choice. I want to enjoy new content and get to veteran 15 and then veteran 16. Oh wait, I cannot. During the months of being veteran 14 I've gained experience and now all it takes me is to step on a mudcrab and here we go, I'm already halfway through the new gameplay I was offered, hooray!

    You're contradicting yourself. Being instant V15 doesn't mean you're halfway through the new gameplay, as it doesn't mean you have already played the new content.
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  • trippingchrissy
    How about they make it optional, and those of us who have been playing our V14s this whole time for no xp gain can go straight to V15, and you can choose not to do so? :wink:

    Or how about this - just don't apply your extra attribute points right away, and pretend you're still V14 until you feel like you've earned V15, at which point, you can assign the point?
    Edited by trippingchrissy on 16 August 2015 14:21
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  • Sacadon
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    I got it... Let's transfer our IC experience from PTS to Live. ;\/



  • Truewavesound
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    This thread is all kinds of dumb...
  • Truewavesound
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    Ah ha ha ha, so funny that you would think you are at 14.99, just because you can see a full bar on your screen. The level cap is VR14, not 15. You haven't been "accruing" or "banking" xp, you have been capped.

    On live you will need to level 2 VR levels. Have you never played a computer game before?! OMG...

    Surely this is a troll thread? If so, bravo op, you really got the derps going...
  • Fissh
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    Ah ha ha ha, so funny that you would think you are at 14.99, just because you can see a full bar on your screen. The level cap is VR14, not 15. You haven't been "accruing" or "banking" xp, you have been capped.

    On live you will need to level 2 VR levels. Have you never played a computer game before?! OMG...

    Surely this is a troll thread? If so, bravo op, you really got the derps going...

    Lol. You should check your facts.
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  • Truewavesound
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    Think what you like, derps. I appreciate it's confusing to a lesser intellect, because of the way it is working on PTS. You'll see on live.

    Have funs :)
  • ryanmjmcevoy_ESO
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    I've literally earned xp up to v14 + 99%, not like I did not EARN this next veteran rank and am getting it magically for no reason. I've played enough to get the extra 1million XP and it should be used.
  • Truewavesound
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    Herp derp
  • Sharee
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    My copied DK got v15 instantly. But after just a few short gameplay sessions (less than 3000 TV stones banked) his XP bar is already 1/3 filled towards v16.

    The lowered XP requirements combined with the high XP earned in IC, and the high mob density means the new veteran leveling will be over in a flash, regardless whether you have to actually level from v14 to v15 or not.

    This is a non-issue, really.
  • Truewavesound
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    Sharee wrote: »
    My copied DK got v15 instantly. But after just a few short gameplay sessions (less than 3000 TV stones banked) his XP bar is already 1/3 filled towards v16.

    The lowered XP requirements combined with the high XP earned in IC, and the high mob density means the new veteran leveling will be over in a flash, regardless whether you have to actually level from v14 to v15 or not.

    This is a non-issue, really.

    That's what they have done for pts copied chars.

    And anyway, agree. Who gives a *#@$?!
  • F7sus4
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    So that's the ESO's endgame, huh? Discussing stupid ideas at the forums. Didn't expect that. :wink:
  • Reverb
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    Just when I think I've seen the breadth of what people will complain about, things like this continue to surprise me.
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  • Siluen
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    This is why we can't have nice things. :(
  • Derra
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  • Garion
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    Lol *** off.
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  • MaxwellC
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    I'm not even a VR 14 yet (VR 13) and I don't support this post. Players both PC and Consoles earned that EXP, if anything give them the option to advance the level or let them stay that level & start from scratch.

    Just because you, @Katinas don't like players instantly leveling up to VR 15; doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to progress to the next VR if they so desire to.

    In other words... This isn't burger king so I say NO, to having it your way.
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  • Dyride
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    Where is my LOL button... I seem to have left it around here somewhere.
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    1. DaveMoeDee
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      Katinas wrote: »
      But the current level cap is veteran 14, it is not veteran 14,5 or veteran 14,99. I don't want a dumbed down system where you don't even feel like you've done anything and here you are immediately at next rank when you've downloaded the update and were not required to do absolutely anything. You don't need to do any quests, don't even need to kill a few goblins in Cyrodiil, you are immediately veteran 15. The only people who will have to gain experience to level up from v14 to v15 are those that have just reached v14 literally before the upcoming patch. Do you want entire ESO community to be only given v15 to v16 experience of gameplay whereas v14 to v15 is just cosmetical? I don't want that and it makes me feel robbed.

      Why are you saying "you"? This is only a problem for you.

      If you have peculiar desires that don't match anyone else, there is no point is complaining in a forum. This is all about your ideosyncracies. When you reply to other people's comments, you are basically just saying "I don't like it that way". I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with your perspective, but they aren't going to pattern the game based on what you want when no one else wants it that way.

    2. DaveMoeDee
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      how dare you katinas :p

      you must be the one zenimax mention in their live show who like veteran ranks )) //////kidding/////

      I like vet ranks until I get to the 3rd character...
    3. DaveMoeDee
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      HaHA where's that LOL button damn this is the funniest thing I've ever seen on this forum.We've earned that vr15 rank all ready don't like it?Too bad.

      I don't think he's complaining about you getting the level. I think he's complaining that he is getting leveled.
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      I appreciate it's confusing to a lesser intellect, because of the way it is working on PTS. You'll see on live.

      Have funs :)
      Instead of being insulting, you could just say "PTS is bugged and it will be fixed for Live". Although I wonder what your source is for that.
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    5. Rinmaethodain
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      Katinas wrote: »
      For veteran 14 character all it takes to level up to veteran 15 is to kill one mob or otherwise gain a minimum of experience. So on a third level-cap this game has seen everyone will be halfway through the increased level cap the moment they kill a skeever or open a lockbox. Please fix it!

      Fix what?

      There is nothing broken.

      A freshly VR14 who hit that lvl the day before IC would go live will still have to earn full 850k exp to get VR15 and then another 850k exp for VR16.

      A half year old VR14 player who during gameplay accumulated enough exp will be given the lvl he earned.

      If you would use an addon that tracks exp gains and is able to display more detailed exp bars like for example Harvens Extended stats you would notice, that despite hitting VR14 (that is current max lvl) the exp gained is still being accumulated (your exp bar is still filling up untill it reaches 1000000/1000000). Then it stops. The game is designed in a way to remember exp needed for one next lvl (even if you hit max).

    6. Glantir
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      I thought the instant vet 15 was an result of the vet exp requirement reduce from 1kk to 850k..... o.O
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