My Motivation for VR 14 + Grinding CPs

Kammakazi · August 2015

Lmaooooo

Troneon · August 2015

Yeah when it's such a huge gap of 25%~ improvements on so many things plus having the pvp skillines unlocked it was stupidly unbalanced to allow PC players to transfer their characters to console....

It must really suck to be new to the game on console...as well as PC now...

They should lower the champion point cap to 300 and make it so you can only pick certain things for your build, not throw champion points into everything and max out everything...

gilbegger · August 2015

I honestly think they will fix this by seperating former PC and current Console gamers in pvp...by CP amount. (seperation will happen naturally according to CP total)

Capping CP by DLC will allow for catching up.

They promised this to PC players a long time ago...they had to deliver. They kept their word.

Violynne · August 2015

I don't get it.

Troneon · August 2015

Violynne wrote: »

I don't get it.

@Violynne

He is showing how pvp PC players have a massive advantage on console players since PC players have full characters with crap loads of champion points and full builds which they moved to console.

Violynne · August 2015

If I'm reading those pics right, he's VR14 getting spanked by non-VR players?

But how are these non-VR players getting CP points? I thought that was only possible with VR rank.

Oh, wait. If memory serves, CPs transfer to other toons, right?

Kammakazi · August 2015

Violynne wrote: »

If I'm reading those pics right, he's VR14 getting spanked by non-VR players?

But how are these non-VR players getting CP points? I thought that was only possible with VR rank.

Oh, wait. If memory serves, CPs transfer to other toons, right?

All of this was in Azura's Star. All deaths were from Veteran Rank players.

Funkopotamus · August 2015

Yeah my friends list is looking like a plague has went through it because all of them stopped enjoying the game after VR1-VR14 PvP and getting trolled by the CP NoLifers.

Sad honestly because the game really is fun until then. After VR1 PVP is no longer skill based

And like you pointed out.... It is only going to get worse as time goes by. Can you imagine what you would walk into if you tried to start playing this game 6 months from now? LMAO!
Most of the level 10's running around will have 1k CP or more lol.

Tragically sad ZOS
sad............

Yukonicus · August 2015

Out of all the people you showed (which are mostly people I know) there is only 1-2 transfers and they all have around 120-140 cp. they just have their builds built correctly for what they want to do in pvp.

Funkopotamus · August 2015

Yukonicus wrote: »

they just have their builds built correctly for what they want to do in pvp.

And that is what?.... Troll the console playerbase?

This is why Transfers were a horrible idea and also why NO OTHER successful MMO has ever allowed it be it from beta or whatever the case may be.

Second thing is the CP system is fine if... IF there is a way that the newer players NEVER are trolled by the CP grinders. If the CP grinders had to play against only other CP grinders then this would be fine. I am one of the people that has the time to grind a few CP's, but to punish others that do not is just going to lead to this games population to die off. Not to mention NOBODY is going to be buying this game in a year if they are never able to play it on a competitive level.

ZOS should make CP free PvP campaigns and then have a few for the CP players to play each other, but then again it would just *** off the CP grinders because they wouldn't be able to "]they just have their builds built correctly for what they want to do in pvp.

VincentBlanquin · August 2015

i suggested countless times not to sort campaign according to time lenght but according to level or CPs. so maybe next year...

RavenSkylord · August 2015

Kammakazi wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

If I'm reading those pics right, he's VR14 getting spanked by non-VR players?

But how are these non-VR players getting CP points? I thought that was only possible with VR rank.

Oh, wait. If memory serves, CPs transfer to other toons, right?

All of this was in Azura's Star. All deaths were from Veteran Rank players.

Wait, you mean you got killed by V17, V20 and V22 level characters?

When did this happen? Thought cap was V14, when did they raise it to 22?

Kammakazi · August 2015

RavenSkylord wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

If I'm reading those pics right, he's VR14 getting spanked by non-VR players?

But how are these non-VR players getting CP points? I thought that was only possible with VR rank.

Oh, wait. If memory serves, CPs transfer to other toons, right?

All of this was in Azura's Star. All deaths were from Veteran Rank players.

Wait, you mean you got killed by V17, V20 and V22 level characters?

When did this happen? Thought cap was V14, when did they raise it to 22?

You need a good smacking across the face.

VincentBlanquin · August 2015

what a nice suggestion. vr increase to 22)))

Aunatar · August 2015

Those are PvP ranks, not Vet ranks

Egonieser · August 2015

In the first 4 screenshots that damage done is laughable, my vr1 NB used to hit more with lethal arrow than that.. A lot more.
The last few screenshots are somewhat accurate, represents daily pvp on PC.
Oh and just wait til people start doing 22k lethal arrows on you everytime you leave a keep, that will be a memorable moment

That's if people manage to advance that far before IC damage nerf comes. But regardless, huge damage numbers will come to consoles on a regular basis aswell, noobs won't stay noobs forever. So... The sooner you get used to it the better. Gives you plenty of time to adjust.

VincentBlanquin · August 2015

agree, consider yourself lucky to play on console

Yakidafi · August 2015

In picture 4 same player usec Crystal frag and dk skills?

For the record I would not blame the cp first, more the build.

edit: I guess he reflected your skill

The Uninvited · August 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

In picture 4 same player usec Crystal frag and dk skills?

Noticed that too. This would simply be impossible, but could be a visual bug.

newtinmpls · August 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

In picture 4 same player usec Crystal frag and dk skills?

The Uninvited wrote: »

Noticed that too. This would simply be impossible, but could be a visual bug.

Or it could be your death recap just shows the X most recent hits and they aren't necessarily all the same person.

kevlarto_ESO · August 2015

Yeah and the gap closing measures they talk about will be to little to late, the only way to stop the madness would be to freeze cp on players with a huge gap until a large chunk of the player base gets to xx% of what the those with a huge amount have, I know something like would never be implemented, I don't think ZOS could handle outrage of that magnitude..:)

So in the long run the cp system is lose lose for the average player and even a bigger lose lose for the new comer..

frenchyuk86 · August 2015

Getting hit by a standard and a reflected crystal fragments shows alot about your skill. I'd suggest getting some more experience perhaps hit vet 14 Nd have Atleast 20k health as is required in end game pve before coming to the forums to state pc transfers are overpowered. I

Kammakazi · August 2015

frenchyuk86 wrote: »

Getting hit by a standard and a reflected crystal fragments shows alot about your skill. I'd suggest getting some more experience perhaps hit vet 14 Nd have Atleast 20k health as is required in end game pve before coming to the forums to state pc transfers are overpowered. I

Where in this post did I mention PC to Console transfers?

Rex-Umbra · August 2015

Most of my PvP friends have quit console it got really *** once we left blackwater, I stick around but my motivation is falling quickly.

algrife · August 2015

instead of whining level up and learn to play your class you see all those deaths are due to LTP issues iv been solo 1v3 1v5 in PS4 EU on my lvl 40 killing vr14s very very easy without a pressure and i still say its a LTP issue most of these guys use only heavy and light attacks for damage and they dont know cc break

markt84 · August 2015

Forget seperating PC and console players. That isn't the issue, the CPs are. I know I've been saying this for days, but a non-cp campaign would fix the cp issue tomorrow.

And I in azura star last night on X1 na, AD is hacking. Saw 2 dude put up a wall in like 10 secs to conplete health. I was hit with 49k fall damage, when I didn't fall at all. I mean I was hit by a 49k fall damage attack. Zos, you guys need to get in that server and check it out

Nifty2g · August 2015

Now you just need some extra mundus stones too

tisch28 · August 2015

VR4 on PC. Tried to do pvp other day. No chance at all when everyone is VR12+. Actually "fought" a mirror build of mine he was VR10 if I remember. I opened with a stealth snipe and attacks, not even a quarter of his health. He got me with a stun and 3 biting jab hits and I died. Just not fun to run all around the map and just die to 1-2 skills no fun at all. Will revisit pvp once the rediculous numbers get nerfed/standardized like they are for sub 50.

Beesting · August 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

In picture 4 same player usec Crystal frag and dk skills?

For the record I would not blame the cp first, more the build.

edit: I guess he reflected your skill

Yes i hope the next time the OP will dodge roll out of the talons and standards instead of just standing still and spam crystal frags on a dk haha

Merlin13KAGL · August 2015

The Uninvited wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

In picture 4 same player usec Crystal frag and dk skills?

Noticed that too. This would simply be impossible, but could be a visual bug.

"@The Uninvited" , @Yakidafi .

The death recap shows a frag that got reflected back at you.

You fell victim to the reflecto-flappy-wings and died to your own frag.

(Block, dodge, or if you feel frisky, equip Defensive Stance from S&B and reflect it back to them)

Kammakazi · August 2015

Yeah I get too happy with Crystal Fragments at times...