I would seriously appreciate any kind of official statement on this. A simple "it's okay" or "it constitutes a circumvention of game mechanics that is not intended and will be blocked with the next major update. Until then, refrain from usage of these in order to prevent spurious bans" would be all right.

So provide this facility as standard, stop making life more tedious than it already is for crafters!

Stop pretending the crafting system is made "deep and meaningful" (as your pre-release hype-blog on crafting described it) by forcing players to mindlessly do this mindless chore, this is NOT 'playing the game'.

@Ayantir, since this also concerns you, I tag you to make you aware of this topic.

If anyone knows how to contact Roomba's author and the team that took over Wykkyd's tools, please do so. This needs to be spread around as quick as possible.

I agree. It is what it is. This needs to be made public. May I ask you to make the addon community at esoui aware of this thread?

It's rather upsetting to learn that an add-on like Roomba would be considered against the ToS. I always considered the non-stacking of guild/bank inventory to be a non-critical bug that the devteam just hasn't gotten around to fixing. If there was a feature in the bank (especially guild bank) where you could press R or T to stack unstacked items, or if leaving the guild bank interface would "commit" your changes and merge automatically, then it wouldn't be an issue.

As it stands, items not stacking/merging in the bank just seems like a glitch, and Roomba is effectively an unofficial patch until the devteam can correct the functionality.

Once fixed, Roomba would be considered redundant and unnecessary, wouldn't it? Should we just report the stacking issue as a bug?

Related: Resources consumed from bank use the top-most stack if multiple are available, meaning if you have 200 + 200 + 153 Iron Ingots and make an item that consumes 5, you end up with 195 + 200 + 153. It should seek and consume the stack with the smallest number, so you would have 200 + 200 + 148, eliminating the need to seek and merge stacks.

driosketch wrote: »

This is probably why you don't aways want to get rulings.

@driosketch And i kept quiet a long time. But after an incident which mentioning of on forums is forbidden, I needed the clarification for myself.

ZOS should remove API that allows TOS violation actions.
Otherwise it's a trap for all fair players - you may use our API but we may ban you.

Swarog wrote: »

ZOS should remove API that allows TOS violation actions.
Otherwise it's a trap for all fair players - you may use our API but we may ban you.

Precisely. I hear more stories about it every day.

Please make an announcement in the forums and in launcher to make people aware of your change in policy, @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JasonLeavey

Seriously?

I know you want constructive, but this is dumb zos.

Leandor wrote: »

@Lettigall please do not derail this topic. This is about addons that are created for the ZOS- provided addon API, thus something they (Zenimax) have a direct influence on. The case in point is that a restriction was placed retroactively and player base has not been properly informed.

Please open a topic dedicated to your issue, in order to keep any and all official replies we receive here strictly on topic. Thanks for understanding.

You got your clarification, but @ZOS_MollyH mentioned macros and addons. And that answer is making confusion since it isn't specified if she meant only addon macros or all macros(including mouse&keyboard). It would be more informative that answer were given in 1 thread to avoid speculations.

Note that response from support I received in February and it would be good to know if their attitude is changed in this time.

@ZOS_MollyH Any chance that we get a positive list of all allowed addons? Up to now I thought that all addons that you could get on esoui would be allowed, but that seems not to be true.

ZOS_MollyH wrote: »

...automation is a violation of our TOS and CoC...

Solution of this problem have to be supported by API restrictions, not just by the rules that can be accidentally violated.
We are all walking by the edge using addons, which primary aim to automate something.
I see just one comprehensive solution for now - not to use addons. But it's sounds insane.
I do not want to break the law but I don't understand how to do that. Any addon may fall under restriction after it'll be updated and I'll even don't be notified about this.

ZOS have to allow all addons and manage their policy via API restrictions. It will be simple, reliable and fair.

ZOS should not ban us until good solution will be found.

I do not understand the reluctance on ZOS' side. If they make this ruling, why not publish it so people using these addons since their creation (they existed at launch of PC version, partly) are made aware of this? The way it is now, the only people who could be banned for their use are the couple hundred who read this thread.

Everyone else could rightly claim being uninformed. I am also kind of disappointed that none of the more prominent greens makes any announcement.

If their API does allow automation, it is their fault if it gets used. Every update, there is tens of pages of changes and improvements to this API. If they do not condone addons like Roomba, why do they not change this API? Why do they make the players responsible and that in a way that they have to get punished before they learn about it?

They only reply we got so far is by one of the forum moderators. I don't want to devalue your input @ZOS_MollyH, but I would like to hear from the responsible developer directly that this is ZOS' final ruling. AFAIK, that would be @ZOS_ChipHilseberg, but I tagged him before and got no response.

Maybe it would help if this topic would be moved to the Addon section.

@ZOS_MollyH

Answer my question, please.
Tell us about plans to resolve current situation.