Tower Farming Pests.

dsalter · July 2015

is anything ever going to be done about them? they contribute pretty much nothing to the war efforts nor is it fun ever dealing with them since your forced to either ignore them or run in and die repeatedly till some manage to survive and break them up enough for swarms to pour in to root them out.

all for the sake of the currentcy YOU put in place, the damned AP.

Kerioko · July 2015

Don't rush the flag to turn it...Instead, get about 5 people with stone siege to drop the tower on top of them. If there is no more tower, they can no longer tower farm AP. The main problem is everyone wants to rush the flag and turn it first. This makes it so you cannot siege the tower down and thus you have done exactly what they want. If this is the case, the next best option is to keep people from feeding the AP farm by rushing in. If no one goes in, they will eventually come out due to boredom and you can then kill them!

dsalter · July 2015

Kerioko wrote: »

Don't rush the flag to turn it...Instead, get about 5 people with stone siege to drop the tower on top of them. If there is no more tower, they can no longer tower farm AP. The main problem is everyone wants to rush the flag and turn it first. This makes it so you cannot siege the tower down and thus you have done exactly what they want. If this is the case, the next best option is to keep people from feeding the AP farm by rushing in. If no one goes in, they will eventually come out due to boredom and you can then kill them!

kinda already know this, the issue is they still get what they want, you ignore them? they'll turn on the keep. you can either ignore them and allow them to flip it or you fight back. which then leads to them hiding in their hole. tower farmers are cancerous atm as when a large amount of people are at it. they arent playing cyrodiil the way it's designed.

which can even lead to a faction losing as thornblade EU PC has shown. since a large portion of prime time AD are AP farmers.

eliisra · July 2015

They do contribute some.

By holding 30-40+ enemies busy around a choke or tower with smaller numbers, they give their own faction more space to take and defend keeps. This also helps with spreading out fights and therefore less lag.

If there were more rewarding and meaningful objectives for smaller raids and groups, you definitely see less tower camping. But right now, let's say you have a 6-12 man group, what the hell are you going to do in Cyrodiil? Join the lag?

Try take a defended keep and you get run down by the Steel Tornado blob lagging so hard nothing works, the keep eventually goes un-contested because you cant even place siege and 50+ more teleports in. Go take an undefended keep and you might as well carve your own eyes out, because PvDoor is that boring after over a year of the same thing. Keep or scroll will be nightflipped back anyway, so you just tortured yourself for no good reason.

Point of PvP for many is having fun and good fights with reasonable numbers, away from the zergs. Easiest way to get that is poking a keep and retreating to resource, choke or nearby building.

Cinbri · July 2015

Door entrance is ***. ZOS should make towers open-entranced.

SurprisedFour91 · July 2015

Cinbri wrote: »

Door entrance is ***. ZOS should make towers open-entranced.

or remove towers.

Hootnannius · July 2015

There are ways to break tower farm that don't include blowing top off the tower. Figure them out.

dsalter · July 2015

Hootnannius wrote: »

There are ways to break tower farm that don't include blowing top off the tower. Figure them out.

theres 3 that are pretty much the only ones most fail to beat, already be in there before them, smash the tower down (try that with randoms) and ignoring them to come out and bite the keep. you dont stop them otherwise.

Kozer · July 2015

I'd like to see something done with tower and keep doors.

kevlarto_ESO · July 2015

Ignore works pretty good, get them when they come to the keep they will not stay long in the tower if they are not getting the max ap per hour, these are the same kind of groups that turtle up in a keep to protect the emp and let their faction lose all the scrolls and get ganked at their gate, but with the new patch coming out AP will only be good for rank and a skill point, and buying siege and such since the new armor will not be on the elite vendor. Problem is to many AP pez dispensers keep running up to the towers feeding them, you would think by now people would have learned.. /shrug

kkravaritieb17_ESO · July 2015

Ignore the people in tower and move on...if you want to be farmed then its your problem not theirs.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · July 2015

All you need to beat a tower farm is a sorc. Also having a barrier helps.

AbraXuSeXile · July 2015

Put a silence on the door from the outside... bye bye

cazlonb16_ESO · July 2015

dsalter wrote: »

which can even lead to a faction losing as thornblade EU PC has shown. since a large portion of prime time AD are AP farmers.

Huh ?

AD are the worst faction on EU PC at tower farming. The last couple days some people have been farming at Ash resources, but that's new. Before AD rarely tower farmed at all.

EP and DC do that every day all day though. Hi Pamela, Warbow, Atzel, etc.

Turelus · July 2015

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

which can even lead to a faction losing as thornblade EU PC has shown. since a large portion of prime time AD are AP farmers.

Huh ?

AD are the worst faction on EU PC at tower farming. The last couple days some people have been farming at Ash resources, but that's new. Before AD rarely tower farmed at all.

EP and DC do that every day all day though. Hi Pamela, Warbow, Atzel, etc.

Pretty sure we're all guilty of this when there isn't much else to do or grow bored of beating our heads against keeps. It breaks up the monotony of normal raiding, makes some AP, trains members to coordinate and generates some lols.

Joy_Division · July 2015

How to ruin tower farmers:

1) Gather group
2) Cast Barrier
3) Cast Proximity Detonation
4) Cast Negate Ultimate on door
5) Optional: Cast immovable - helps a lot
6) Enter door
7) Boom
8) Dodge Roll away from door
9) Mop-up
10) Convince others to push the next keep

11) Stay for Defense Tick

revonine · July 2015

Never knew this was a thing until I saw it happening for myself. After I realized what they were doing I just ignored them and moved on to the next objective. They can't AP farm if no-one falls for it. Couldn't help but watch my faction mates enter that tower ONE AT A TIME for nearly 5 minutes before moving on though.

TBois · July 2015

Hit immovable or an immovable pot before you enter door and double dodge roll after you enter. Go up to second floor, burn their oils and place your own. Use oils or distract them enough for more allies to enter

Minno · July 2015

eliisra wrote: »

They do contribute some.

By holding 30-40+ enemies busy around a choke or tower with smaller numbers, they give their own faction more space to take and defend keeps. This also helps with spreading out fights and therefore less lag.

If there were more rewarding and meaningful objectives for smaller raids and groups, you definitely see less tower camping. But right now, let's say you have a 6-12 man group, what the hell are you going to do in Cyrodiil? Join the lag?

Try take a defended keep and you get run down by the Steel Tornado blob lagging so hard nothing works, the keep eventually goes un-contested because you cant even place siege and 50+ more teleports in. Go take an undefended keep and you might as well carve your own eyes out, because PvDoor is that boring after over a year of the same thing. Keep or scroll will be nightflipped back anyway, so you just tortured yourself for no good reason.

Point of PvP for many is having fun and good fights with reasonable numbers, away from the zergs. Easiest way to get that is poking a keep and retreating to resource, choke or nearby building.

It's not tower farming. It's our small groups only mechanic to both contribute to the factions cause while also creating a situation in which a small group can actually pvp.

All sides should know to seige tower first before moving on flag. Standard pvp mechanics.