Enable Player Killing anywhere in the world (PK) (Not PvP)

MightyHarken · July 2015

As the title says, one of the main reasons some MMO'S can get really interesting is because of the player killing system. In every Elder Scrolls game there are good guys and bad guys (criminals, murderers) who are living and spreading misery in the world, and these guys dont care about alliance wars, they just want to see the world burn.

As everyone can see we have the perfect settlement for enabling player killing since level 1, not everyone is a good guy or wants everything to be happy and unemotional. Just imagine the possiblities, gathering a group of bad guys like yourself to go out there and hunt poor people just when they were about to go hunting, then, as a vengeance, this person calls his friends and gangs up on the bad guys who wronged him in the first place,

Next I will mention a few mechanics we can have for a perfect PK system and make it work along with the justice system.

PROTECTION ZONES: Every city or small settlement of people is a protection zone, what does this mean?: A protection zone is a place where attacking a player is impossible, if a player is attempting to kill another player in a cave, but his prey escapes his grasps and makes it into a protection zone, he's safe.

White SKULL OR RECENT CRIMINAL SYSTEM: A player who killed another player cant get in a protection zone or log out for the next 15 minutes, (that's right you wont get away that easily, after having your fun)
NOTE: Anyone who kills a skulled player has no penalties for doing justice. The skull or recent criminal status doesnt go away even if you died, it will only go away after 15 minutes have passed.

Red skull Massive murderer status: Status given to players who have killed more than 10 players in the same day.the status lasts 3 days. However after killing the target you'll still be able to go in protection zones after 15 minutes have passed. Yes this means some people will create specified guilds in the name of evil

And now the avengers join the frey.

Yellow skull: Granted to players who dedicate themselves to killing criminals who slay innocent people. Yes this means some people will even create specified guilds in the name of justice .

What do you lose for dying at the hands of a player?, here's a tough one, perhaps we could have a lesser death penalty, something along the lines of losing a few coins and the other player getting them (100 - 1000 gold) depending on your level.

With that I hope everyone enjoys and embraces the idea, think about the possibilities, the fun, the immersion, the excitement we could have in ESO. outside of cyrodill

Thoughts?

SirAndy · July 2015

No ...

Leandor · July 2015

As long as I can opt out of it, whatever floats your boat. Note that I am in Cyrodiil about 95% of my /played and still insist on opting out (meaning I can't kill players outside of Cyrodiil but can't be killed as well).

wrathofrraath · July 2015

Delete VR ranks and cadwells silver / gold and have all 3 alliances in their respective zones. When you go into an enemy faction you can be kill or be killed by that faction, maybe implement disguises or costumes to keep you hidden but if you are discovered its kill or be killed or escape back to your faction.

Colosso-monstro · July 2015

Nah, I'm good. I don't want to put extra playing time into the game because some Jack off wants to pk and makes me return to wayshrine.

Caza99 · July 2015

lolwut

dsalter · July 2015

the runescape is strong in this OP

nordsavage · July 2015

You watched Batman too many times. That "watch the world burn." line is played out dead.

Mojmir · July 2015

Go back to UO circa pre trammel

kylerjalen · July 2015

I would go for this in upper Craglorn for people fighting over a resource node in the hopes there is some nirncrux.

Akavir_Sentinel · July 2015

Not going to happen. Ever.

Caza99 · July 2015

It'd be like Cyro Dolmens and Delves....but not in Cyrodill.

MightyHarken · July 2015

Why wouldnt it happen, this is a good mechanic, it would certainly make this game alive, must everything always be so predictible and boring?

borchan · July 2015

I would usally say yes to open World pvp/pk but this game dont need it.

Syntse · July 2015

So why don't you just get your posse together and hunt people fetching skyshards, dolmens, delves, fishing, lorebooks, quests in Cyrodiil?

You clearly just want to go killing innocent people who just want to quest or collect flowers or something and doesn't want anything to do with pk. Maybe some day the justice system is complete and you can have your over world player killing with people who actually agree to participate in that. But maybe that's not as fun for you as they actually come in prepared.

Anhedonie · July 2015

no, thanks

Rosveen · July 2015

Not only no, but hell no.

Kazzy56 · July 2015

PS4 EU

Sure, open up the game so the trolls/abusers who want to can kill/take down anything that moves.

Nope. Not going to happen.

Have a great Tamriel day.

Leandor · July 2015

Let him have that option, I look forward to switch it on short time and kill the "skulled" guys over and over and over and then switch it back off as soon as his flag goes. This will be the perfect "grief the griefers" system....

Dudis · July 2015

I thought the justice system was supposed to do this.

CaptainObvious · July 2015

If open world PvP gets added, there should also be containers to hold the essence of soul shriven players in a divided fashion to keep them from reforming. That way you can divide up a player and scatter their essence across the 4 corners of Tamriel. They won't be able to use that character until their essence is completely freed.

Would be an interesting pseudo-quest system that encourages alts.

newtinmpls · July 2015

Way seriously WTF crikey facepalm no.

In case that wasn't clear.

NO.

Leandor · July 2015

I still think that putting it in but make it toggleable with default setting to off would be a wonderful troll. I can see these guys running around crying and begging others to let themselves be killed... Just make sure we get a /ridicule emote at the same time...

Okay, enough negativity. I think OP got it by now that his proposal is universally rejected by forum dwellers.

Kupoking · July 2015

Open pvp : yes only if
1-you choose if you participate or not.
2-you do not force players who are leveling up or skilling up to partake in this at a disadvantage.
3-you remove the champion system. You want all pkers to be at the same advantage.

Reb · July 2015

No ....and where is that lol button

danno8 · July 2015

These suggestions always amount to the same thing. "I want to kill unsuspecting PvE players, because trying to kill armed and ready PvP players is to hard!"

A little bit of fun for a few, at the expense of many is not a good business decision for ZoS, which is why you will never see this kind of thing in PvE land, unless they add an "Prevent killing and being killed by other players" option in settings with a cooldown option turning it on/off.

Steel_Brightblade · July 2015

Big no. Would open the door to the usual griefers, to camp any and all delves mashing it impossible to do these unless you Berger up a ton of people. Irritating, pointless and frustrating for all except the Griefers who just want easy kills and to pick on people that don't want to our are not in a position to fight.

byrom101b16_ESO · July 2015

This kind of dross ruined Age of Conan due to the endless selfishness of gankers/griefers.

No MMO has ever managed to get rid of gankers/griefers under such circumstances, whose only concern is spoiling other people's enjoyment of a game to feed their pathetic little egos.

Despite what you may think of the 'logical' validity of your argument OP, it is precisely the same reasoning used by game ruining gankers/griefers to excuse their childish and antisocial behaviour.

Surely you don't want to be associated with such types?

King Bozo · July 2015

I would not mind it but have the option to turn it off for those players that may not want it.

wrathofrraath · July 2015

then git gud before the dark brotherhood comes out

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

No thanks. Not ever please. This will ruin game for some. Could you imagine questing at level 5 only to have a vr14 come in and gank you then just repeatedly kills you? Don't say this Won't happen, this is an mmo.