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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Templaroflight My PvP builds Stamina/Magicka

DaggerfallTradeMasters
Lol not sure if i should post it here i will soon see the comments i guess under this from the people i know xD.
Anyways this is my PvP build atm and i have to say i really enjoy it :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xCcIv5_sE8
  • iseko
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    Looks decent enough in small scale. Wonder how it will hold up in AvA or when you get hit by a stealth train. Even 1v3 im skeptical. Interesting though about the biting jabs still scaling off spell crit.
  • DaggerfallTradeMasters
    iseko wrote: »
    Looks decent enough in small scale. Wonder how it will hold up in AvA or when you get hit by a stealth train. Even 1v3 im skeptical. Interesting though about the biting jabs still scaling off spell crit.

    Its good for group runs as well and 1v3 works mate :)
  • MoneyOverEverything
    Rank 6 Mages Guild

    rubenpls
    Don`t nerf the hype.
  • DaggerfallTradeMasters
    Rank 6 Mages Guild

    rubenpls

    Lol i am working on it farming lorebooks atm i am at 9 now xD
  • david.haypreub18_ESO
    david.haypreub18_ESO
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    Is that an addon or is it a setting in Combat Cloud that shows the skill/spell icon beside the damage numbers? That is cool.

    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
    VR 16 Templar (retired until Templars get fixed)
    VR 16 Sorcerer
    38 Nightblade
    24 DK
  • Francescolg
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    Blazing shield gives you only a ~6600 HP-shield with this build. The most "serious" incoming (instant) damage is 10-20k by different sources (aimed shot, crystal frag, siege weapons, 2h, 3x5k consecutive damage from stealth by NBs without break-free chance, etc.).
    This means that if a sorc has targetted you, you get 15 k damage inc, from which 6-7k are absorbed...
    Now, the problem is that 8 k will go through the shield and sorcerers crystal frags come every few seconds (bundled with 4-8k dmg instant spells / weapon attacks).. - In this time frame - you can't keep up both Defensive Stance and Blazing Shield.

    - A fire staff heavy attack alone will annihilate your Blazing Shield or bring it to a low value making the next incoming attack problem (see the end of my post)

    As soon as you have two people shooting at you with one of this 10-15k dmg spells/skills/weapons, your shield won't help you at all if it's not at 100%.. Nowadays (1.6) you need a 10k+ shield for "minum defense"... (higher then weapon attacks, boosted by spell/weapon dmg builds).

    Even if you keep popping Defensive Stance, it won't help cause most players will simply switch to weapon attacks/AEs/etc.. or they even use defensive stance/batman.. As soon as they get one spell reflected by 1h/s, they will start using the right skills vs. you.

    I'm even not so sure if what you claim in the video, to have 8k uncrit Aimed Shots is true. You have no weapon dmg on gear at all. You bow base damage should be pretty low because of the low weapon dmg. You seem to believe that you don't need +spell/weapon dmg.

    Spamming biting jabs (4 second long channel) won't help keeping blazing shield/defensive stance up and makes you an easy target for any CC spells. Even the damage from Biting Jabs is not sufficient to get down the mage in the video (several guys attacking it).

    The other area effect you use has a long animation&travelling time and the damage is... Have you seen the damage of one tick of Blazing Spear on an "average player" in Cyrondil with - let's say - 10k magic resistance?

    Beside all that, you use no 5-piece medium armor but your blazing shield and your biting jabs would benefit from melee crit.

    You heals should be terrible, practically at base level, as your Blazing Shield.
    Your damage is not sufficient in any way to do significant damage to a sorc who has just his absorb shield up. Sorcerers spam Defensive Posture as much as you, while they got 10k absorb + other shields.
    Your Shield does not protect you in any serious 1vs 1 or X situation, not just against the "best EU players".. :wink:

    The "other big problem" is the unmitigated damage from blazing shield, from what goes through!
    1 heavy attack is about 4-7k damage (this is a very own topic, to be discussed), in 1.6 everybody and their grandma spec heavily into spell/weapon dmg. So the weapon attack will lower your blazing shield to 2000k AND immediately after SERIOUS damage comes in UNMITIGATED. So you get the full 14k crystal frag, the full aimed shot and all damage stays unmitigated.. And your HP is low..
    I wouldn't spam Blazing Shield if it's not at least 9k+ but even then it remains questionable, if you see how much pure weapon attack damage some builds obtain..! Weapon attacks alone get your shield down or to a level where you die instantly because of one unmitigated crit.
    Edited by Francescolg on 23 April 2015 10:18
  • ToRelax
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    The initial hit on the shield may be unmitigated, but it does not crit.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • DaggerfallTradeMasters
    Is that an addon or is it a setting in Combat Cloud that shows the skill/spell icon beside the damage numbers? That is cool.

    its combat cloud
    Blazing shield gives you only a ~6600 HP-shield with this build. The most "serious" incoming (instant) damage is 10-20k by different sources (aimed shot, crystal frag, siege weapons, 2h, 3x5k consecutive damage from stealth by NBs without break-free chance, etc.).
    This means that if a sorc has targetted you, you get 15 k damage inc, from which 6-7k are absorbed...
    Now, the problem is that 8 k will go through the shield and sorcerers crystal frags come every few seconds (bundled with 4-8k dmg instant spells / weapon attacks).. - In this time frame - you can't keep up both Defensive Stance and Blazing Shield.

    - A fire staff heavy attack alone will annihilate your Blazing Shield or bring it to a low value making the next incoming attack problem (see the end of my post)

    As soon as you have two people shooting at you with one of this 10-15k dmg spells/skills/weapons, your shield won't help you at all if it's not at 100%.. Nowadays (1.6) you need a 10k+ shield for "minum defense"... (higher then weapon attacks, boosted by spell/weapon dmg builds).

    Even if you keep popping Defensive Stance, it won't help cause most players will simply switch to weapon attacks/AEs/etc.. or they even use defensive stance/batman.. As soon as they get one spell reflected by 1h/s, they will start using the right skills vs. you.

    I'm even not so sure if what you claim in the video, to have 8k uncrit Aimed Shots is true. You have no weapon dmg on gear at all. You bow base damage should be pretty low because of the low weapon dmg. You seem to believe that you don't need +spell/weapon dmg.

    Spamming biting jabs (4 second long channel) won't help keeping blazing shield/defensive stance up and makes you an easy target for any CC spells. Even the damage from Biting Jabs is not sufficient to get down the mage in the video (several guys attacking it).

    The other area effect you use has a long animation&travelling time and the damage is... Have you seen the damage of one tick of Blazing Spear on an "average player" in Cyrondil with - let's say - 10k magic resistance?

    Beside all that, you use no 5-piece medium armor but your blazing shield and your biting jabs would benefit from melee crit.

    You heals should be terrible, practically at base level, as your Blazing Shield.
    Your damage is not sufficient in any way to do significant damage to a sorc who has just his absorb shield up. Sorcerers spam Defensive Posture as much as you, while they got 10k absorb + other shields.
    Your Shield does not protect you in any serious 1vs 1 or X situation, not just against the "best EU players".. :wink:

    The "other big problem" is the unmitigated damage from blazing shield, from what goes through!
    1 heavy attack is about 4-7k damage (this is a very own topic, to be discussed), in 1.6 everybody and their grandma spec heavily into spell/weapon dmg. So the weapon attack will lower your blazing shield to 2000k AND immediately after SERIOUS damage comes in UNMITIGATED. So you get the full 14k crystal frag, the full aimed shot and all damage stays unmitigated.. And your HP is low..
    I wouldn't spam Blazing Shield if it's not at least 9k+ but even then it remains questionable, if you see how much pure weapon attack damage some builds obtain..! Weapon attacks alone get your shield down or to a level where you die instantly because of one unmitigated crit.

    Well tbh i got down eunogh sorcerers you dont Always have to get hit you know i have defensive stance reflect back+shield charge+ biting jabs and you get most down also you can easily dodge the build is fine i played for 1 year now in the PVP on EU and its working ;)
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