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No word on the 3 mundus stone exploit?
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xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »These effects are active and also show in the ui.
So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.
It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.
There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.
Top few places in vet dsa are not "accidental" trust me.
I know
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Ah, I wasn't aware of that. So I guess it is pretty easy to see who has 3+ mundus stones active.
it can be configured to show all buffs on a "target", in this case, another player. It will even show if they're and ESO+ member
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
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GamerzElite✭✭✭No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
Cheater should be drag in Public, I condemn ZOS policy abt Name&Shame.2 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_GaryA, @ZOS_GinaBruno,
Is this 3 Mundus stone buff being researched by ZOS?
Since the Twice Born set gives a 2 Mundus stone buff the exploit has to do with that. It could be giving more than 2 buffs with more than 5 items or with items on weapon swaps. Please research this and correct the issue.
Thanks
We are actively investigating this, yes.
Awesome! Thank you @ZOS_GaryA for your quick reply
Keep up the great work all @ZOS NA Server - Kildair0 -
alkoriak✭✭✭Don't call cheaters players that have 3 mundus stones. I , for one, have 3 mundus stones, nothing to do with twice born set. It happened only on my redguard. I don't know how it happened and I don't want it but can't get rid of it. I send Zos a bug report but no news from them even aknowledging the case. If I touch a new mundus stone, it simply replaces one of the old ones and I still have 3 effects.3
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Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't call cheaters players that have 3 mundus stones. I , for one, have 3 mundus stones, nothing to do with twice born set. It happened only on my redguard. I don't know how it happened and I don't want it but can't get rid of it. I send Zos a bug report but no news from them even aknowledging the case. If I touch a new mundus stone, it simply replaces one of the old ones and I still have 3 effects.
So which mundus stones are they? Would one of them happen to be the Warrior? I remember there were some issues with that one awhile back where people couldn't change or it would come back. Wondering if that might have something to do with it.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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✭Don't call cheaters players that have 3 mundus stones. I , for one, have 3 mundus stones, nothing to do with twice born set. It happened only on my redguard. I don't know how it happened and I don't want it but can't get rid of it. I send Zos a bug report but no news from them even aknowledging the case. If I touch a new mundus stone, it simply replaces one of the old ones and I still have 3 effects.
So which mundus stones are they? Would one of them happen to be the Warrior? I remember there were some issues with that one awhile back where people couldn't change or it would come back. Wondering if that might have something to do with it.
Do you think they never actually reset the mundus stones for every player as part of the bug fix ?
Scary
Edited by Rune_Relic on 27 April 2015 18:37Anything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nobody has enough armor traits learned to do it anyway
Mmmm... I'm about 10 days away from starting research on my last Blacksmithing and Clothing items. There was a thread here in the forums about a race to the research finish line and there is a winner.
I did craft a TBS set. I had to ask two guildies to craft two pieces for me, but I could make the rest no problem (medium armor). I may have to play with it a bit more, but I wasn't overly impressed.The Moot Councillor0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
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Dositheus✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
There are a number of addons that do it. I have used Srendarr, I think FTC does it now too. I use it to know who is a vampire so I can spam Silver bolts at and laugh as they lay cced on the ground while everyone gang@#$s them.Edited by Dositheus on 28 April 2015 08:420 -
Dositheus✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game
Nope. It's rather nice to have a way to know quickly who not to waste silver bolts on, and who you can terrorize with them. It would really make me waste stamina if I had to get in close enough to see their eyes or wait for them to go mist form or something. It's a great feature.1 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game
Nope. It's rather nice to have a way to know quickly who not to waste silver bolts on, and who you can terrorize with them. It would really make me waste stamina if I had to get in close enough to see their eyes or wait for them to go mist form or something. It's a great feature.
So its like u need "Cheats" and "Tricks" to win a fight? lameEdited by BuggeX on 28 April 2015 08:54#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
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xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game
Nah. It's good to remind ppl to take their buffood
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BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭xMovingTarget wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game
Nah. It's good to remind ppl to take their buffood
See this is a nice "Feature" of the Vanilla UI. The Resource bars getting 100% bigger, u cant miss that your Food run out.
#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
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ginoboehm✭✭✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »These effects are active and also show in the ui.
So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.
It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.
There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.
Top few places in vet dsa are not "accidental" trust me.
I know It's pretty damn sad..
just a heads up since we just took every 1st place in 12man raids (afaik with world bests). not one of us has this bug or is trying to get it. and no most of us don't farm cp like crazy and our team avarage cp is still under 200. i will post a video from the warrior later as a guildmate made a recording.0 -
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✭Just wondering whether they've found something along the lines of:
1) Full 7 pieces of Armour
2) Duel Wield (first bar)
3) Shield & Sword or something (2nd Bar)
And for some reason the system is allowing for the full 10 being active, thus doubling up on the Mundus Stone bonus.
I'd like to know the benefit of this as well - cause IF you are running spell crit, precise or weap damage traits on it all, and they are all legendary, that could be a hell of a bonus over riding anything of the other sets would get close to....Edited by P3ZZL3 on 28 April 2015 10:11CP561 Redguard | Jabsy Templar | Stamina Build
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xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »These effects are active and also show in the ui.
So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.
It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.
There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.
Top few places in vet dsa are not "accidental" trust me.
I know It's pretty damn sad..
just a heads up since we just took every 1st place in 12man raids (afaik with world bests). not one of us has this bug or is trying to get it. and no most of us don't farm cp like crazy and our team avarage cp is still under 200. i will post a video from the warrior later as a guildmate made a recording.
First place? Exploits, cheats and hackZ! Haha, jokes aside. Good job old fellow DC mates. I would be surprised if any of you would abuse that.
At least some serious competition from DC now
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✭✭✭✭✭Don't know how but on one of my characters I picked up an extra mundus effect when I changed it, the old one did not go away the effects stacked.
There was nothing I could do to get rid of it was a bug not intentional.
Finally after an update the extra effect went away.Edited by TequilaFire on 28 April 2015 10:530 -
SLy_Kyti✭✭✭✭nobody has enough armor traits learned to do it anyway
uh not so. a few of us do. Ask @Ouroburos, @Gyudan and others... forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1758490/#Comment_1758490
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Dositheus✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
"S'rendarr"Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got itEmma_Eunjung wrote: »No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.
Exploiters should be named and shamed.
So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww
This should be removed from the game
Nope. It's rather nice to have a way to know quickly who not to waste silver bolts on, and who you can terrorize with them. It would really make me waste stamina if I had to get in close enough to see their eyes or wait for them to go mist form or something. It's a great feature.
So its like u need "Cheats" and "Tricks" to win a fight? lame
Ohh man! You GOT me! Yep, I'm so darn lame I can't fight anyone without my uber OP addons. Heck, they play the game for me bud. I don't have to push a single button, I just log into the game, and they run around Cyro macro weaving attacks for me, targeting and nuking Vampires, and farming nodes like a chinese prisoner playing WoW. I'm so glad that you pointed out my shifty "Tricks" and "Cheats" in the form of properly utilizing the API information provided by the game client. :P Woe is me when others learn of these new fangled things called Addons, my whole advantage will go out the window.
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Terminus1✭✭✭I KNOW some of the CS peeps for this title.
I would NOT want to be the focus of their attention. If you get caught breaking the TOS you may as well say goodbye to this title.0 -
Lord_Kreegan✭✭✭✭✭One of my eight characters has two Mundus Stone effects; he is only a mid-level character, so not using any fancy armor bonuses.
He didn't get the second Mundus Stone effect "accidently" as some people have suggested has occurred. Way back when I created him (around release), there was a passive trait IIRC available that gave a second Mundus Stone effect... I don't recall if it was a class trait or racial trait. Hey, I'm old; my memory rarely stretches back a day or two...
Anyway, I just loaded the game and checked out that character, and there's no such trait on him right now, so I'm presuming this is one of the traits that ZOS changed with the big patch that made all of us respec... and they probably didn't fix characters when they went through the process of making all of us respec.
Would certainly be like them to have a "few oversights" in the changes they made...
So, other players who had similar builds in the past who also then picked up the armor some of you were referring to may indeed "legally" have three Mundus Stone effects.1 -
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✭✭nobody has enough armor traits learned to do it anyway
uh not so. a few of us do. Ask @Ouroburos, @Gyudan and others... forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1758490/#Comment_1758490
Whatever's causing it, I doubt that it's related to the Twice-Born Star set.
I've been using it for quite a while and the best it can do is immediately cancel the 2nd boon when dropping to 4/5 pieces but not reverting back when coming back to 5/5.
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xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Kreegan wrote: »He didn't get the second Mundus Stone effect "accidently" as some people have suggested has occurred. Way back when I created him (around release), there was a passive trait IIRC available that gave a second Mundus Stone effect... I don't recall if it was a class trait or racial trait. Hey, I'm old; my memory rarely stretches back a day or two...
There never ever was such thing. Not from class and neither from racial. Also no set bonus. Twice born star is the only thing in game that makes it possible to get more than 1 mundus buff. There has never been something else to get more than one legitimately.3 -
Lord_Kreegan✭✭✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »Lord_Kreegan wrote: »He didn't get the second Mundus Stone effect "accidently" as some people have suggested has occurred. Way back when I created him (around release), there was a passive trait IIRC available that gave a second Mundus Stone effect... I don't recall if it was a class trait or racial trait. Hey, I'm old; my memory rarely stretches back a day or two...
There never ever was such thing. Not from class and neither from racial. Also no set bonus. Twice born star is the only thing in game that makes it possible to get more than 1 mundus buff. There has never been something else to get more than one legitimately.
Afraid you're wrong.
Live with it. It happens.0 -
xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Kreegan wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »Lord_Kreegan wrote: »He didn't get the second Mundus Stone effect "accidently" as some people have suggested has occurred. Way back when I created him (around release), there was a passive trait IIRC available that gave a second Mundus Stone effect... I don't recall if it was a class trait or racial trait. Hey, I'm old; my memory rarely stretches back a day or two...
There never ever was such thing. Not from class and neither from racial. Also no set bonus. Twice born star is the only thing in game that makes it possible to get more than 1 mundus buff. There has never been something else to get more than one legitimately.
Afraid you're wrong.
Live with it. It happens.
Enlighten me(us) then
I can't recall anything doing that. Besides twice born when it got introduced.
There have been bugs making it able to get more than one earlier too. But that's it. I am 100% sure. Played all classes etc since beta.Edited by xMovingTarget on 28 April 2015 15:591 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There is a bug with Concentration in the Light Armor Passive skill tree
You just need to put points into it and you get the active effect, it's working without needing any light armor on you.#MOREORBS0 -
Halke✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »These effects are active and also show in the ui.
So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.
It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.
There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.
This, so much this. One of my lowbies has four standing stones, or at least did the last time I was on her. I can't get rid of them and they are all showing as active on my character screen. It was not in the least intentional, well the third one was to test if they would keep stacking and then the fourth I forgot she was all buggy and tried to change her stone. It is the plague.0
good to see its being looked into 