Pairing high regen with Argonian potion passive?

tinythinker · April 2015

I am wondering if gear/drinks for regen might be more useful for Argonian builds to combine the resource bonus for Argonian potions. Still out of the game so I can't check if the potion boons to regen stack with drinks but it certainly would with gear. Anyone tried a potion/regen focus for their Argonian since 1.6?

ThatNeonZebraAgain · April 2015

Nord or Bosmer would be better for stacking health or stamina regen. The Argonian potion passive and the 45 second cooldown make it so Argonians wouldn't be so great at that kind of build. Before 1.6 we had a great potion synergy with Nightblade class but now... not so much.

tinythinker · April 2015

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

Nord or Bosmer would be better for stacking health or stamina regen. The Argonian potion passive and the 45 second cooldown make it so Argonians wouldn't be so great at that kind of build. Before 1.6 we had a great potion synergy with Nightblade class but now... not so much.

Yeah, but I was just trying to think of something useful for those who already have vet Saxhleel. Since potions like tripots get those resource regen buffs now, if you had higher base regen rates you would get more out of those buffs. I'm not saying Argonians would be better than those races if regen stacking was your goal, I'm just wondering if builds that use drinks and potions would work better *for* Argonians.

Nutronic · April 2015

Well, 2 things:

1. Drinks don't proc the passive. Also, since drinks still don't give more raw stats than food, this might be asking to give too much anyway.

2. Regen builds aren't very strong outside of pvp (even then it's iffy). You still need a healer if you're tanking, you'll still need a deep magicka or stamina pool if you're dpsing, and healers.. well I guess if you don't mind being just okay it could work.

I think this is a cool idea but has too many negative variables and just denying yourself food at all causes problems.

tinythinker · April 2015

Nutronic wrote: »

Well, 2 things:

1. Drinks don't proc the passive. Also, since drinks still don't give more raw stats than food, this might be asking to give too much anyway.

No but they could contribute to a higher regen pool for potion buffs to work off of.

Nutronic wrote: »

2. Regen builds aren't very strong outside of pvp (even then it's iffy). You still need a healer if you're tanking, you'll still need a deep magicka or stamina pool if you're dpsing, and healers.. well I guess if you don't mind being just okay it could work.

I think this is a cool idea but has too many negative variables and just denying yourself food at all causes problems.

I had similar concerns which is why I wondered if anyone had given the idea a try. Just looking for any kind of silver lining for Argonians, since it looks like they were only changed as a part of the 1.6 redesign not seriously examined for significant re-balancing.

I still wonder if the lack of increase (i.e. default nerf) for some resistance passives (see Argonians and Dunmer) was an oversight, but I am guessing it wasn't. Players I guess are supposed to "get it back" with champ points. Odd that other races like Altmer and Breton weren't nerfed to allow those players to catch up by investing such points. Racials aren't everything, but if that is so, why not buff some those on the lower end?

Many people who play as scale-skins would be thrilled just to see some mild increases to existing health/healing bonuses, for example (ignore the suggestions for resto staff and even the idea for adding substance to disease/poison resist and I'd still be very pleasantly surprised).