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ESO PVP - Sorcerer 'Growing Pains' ~Leper Si~ Tamriel Umlimited 2.0.1
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✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »danno816_ESO wrote: »What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.
He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.
funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.
only when you activly break it if you survive it you can be refeared immidieatly or cced by another type of cc.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »danno816_ESO wrote: »What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.
He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.
funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.
only when you activly break it if you survive it you can be refeared immidieatly or cced by another type of cc.
Yeah you streak someone they get a 1.8 sec disoreint followed by 5 secs of cc immunity, spam fear at someone and outside of a break you can just keep spamming it...lol
You gotta admit, some of these game balance decisions are just flat dumb, no other way to put it.
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✭✭✭✭Phew, dodged another one.
Also getting the same impression of fear.Edited by Armitas on 23 March 2015 20:11Retired.
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✭✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »danno816_ESO wrote: »What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.
He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.
funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.
only when you activly break it if you survive it you can be refeared immidieatly or cced by another type of cc.
Strange because mobs in PvE get immunity after fear ends.0 -
cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭im not really sure at this point whats going on with fear lol, so many conflicting thoughts on whats supposed to happen, i was pretty sure i read in the patch notes for 1.6 that after the fear you are supposed to be cc immune. normally i die before the fear runs out if i am out of stam so i havent seen this situation come up again. maybe you can be chain feared forever.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
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skarvika✭✭✭✭Haha, so you're the guy my whole guild has been complaining about! I'm pretty sure you hit me with 2 Meteors within no more than 3 seconds of each other the other day ya cheeky horker loaf...
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I finally got around to watching this and enjoyed the realism. I must say it appears you're dying to the same things that I used to die to earlier in 1.6 and that is a false sense of security given by Dampen Magic. Like me you really only notice when your shield bar decreases and when you're showing a "full" shield bar and it's all magic absorbing only and that damn kitty softpaws lets loose his arrow you're a goner.
I dropped Dampen Magic completely until they can provide an interface hook that allows us to see the difference between damage shields and magic only shields. I reviewed all my early footage and noticed that right away, removing it probably cut my deaths in half and added another slot for another useful ability. Try running only hardened and healing ward and see how you like it. You'll be a little weaker against casters but with Ball Lightning it isn't that big of a deal.
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Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »danno816_ESO wrote: »What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.
He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.
funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.
only when you activly break it if you survive it you can be refeared immidieatly or cced by another type of cc.
Yeah you streak someone they get a 1.8 sec disoreint followed by 5 secs of cc immunity, spam fear at someone and outside of a break you can just keep spamming it...lol
You gotta admit, some of these game balance decisions are just flat dumb, no other way to put it.
streak no longer provides a disable since 1.6 - its a stun with all its bloody downsides...Edited by Tankqull on 24 March 2015 12:21spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I finally got around to watching this and enjoyed the realism. I must say it appears you're dying to the same things that I used to die to earlier in 1.6 and that is a false sense of security given by Dampen Magic. Like me you really only notice when your shield bar decreases and when you're showing a "full" shield bar and it's all magic absorbing only and that damn kitty softpaws lets loose his arrow you're a goner.
I dropped Dampen Magic completely until they can provide an interface hook that allows us to see the difference between damage shields and magic only shields. I reviewed all my early footage and noticed that right away, removing it probably cut my deaths in half and added another slot for another useful ability. Try running only hardened and healing ward and see how you like it. You'll be a little weaker against casters but with Ball Lightning it isn't that big of a deal.
yeah i went that route the other day, i noticed no real difference in deaths by removing dampen magic, just that dampen magic was just not needed in most situations. im pretty good at feeling it out where my shield is at, though the bug is really annoying im just so used to it.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
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✭I finally got around to watching this and enjoyed the realism. I must say it appears you're dying to the same things that I used to die to earlier in 1.6 and that is a false sense of security given by Dampen Magic. Like me you really only notice when your shield bar decreases and when you're showing a "full" shield bar and it's all magic absorbing only and that damn kitty softpaws lets loose his arrow you're a goner.
I dropped Dampen Magic completely until they can provide an interface hook that allows us to see the difference between damage shields and magic only shields. I reviewed all my early footage and noticed that right away, removing it probably cut my deaths in half and added another slot for another useful ability. Try running only hardened and healing ward and see how you like it. You'll be a little weaker against casters but with Ball Lightning it isn't that big of a deal.
I was going to say something and then I read your last sentence. I can never understand why any Sorc would pick up Dampen Magic AND Ball Lightning. And since I think Streak is a poorer choice over Ball Lightning, I just don't see any reason to pick up Dampen Magic (for PvP) any more.
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I finally got around to watching this and enjoyed the realism. I must say it appears you're dying to the same things that I used to die to earlier in 1.6 and that is a false sense of security given by Dampen Magic. Like me you really only notice when your shield bar decreases and when you're showing a "full" shield bar and it's all magic absorbing only and that damn kitty softpaws lets loose his arrow you're a goner.
I dropped Dampen Magic completely until they can provide an interface hook that allows us to see the difference between damage shields and magic only shields. I reviewed all my early footage and noticed that right away, removing it probably cut my deaths in half and added another slot for another useful ability. Try running only hardened and healing ward and see how you like it. You'll be a little weaker against casters but with Ball Lightning it isn't that big of a deal.
I was going to say something and then I read your last sentence. I can never understand why any Sorc would pick up Dampen Magic AND Ball Lightning. And since I think Streak is a poorer choice over Ball Lightning, I just don't see any reason to pick up Dampen Magic (for PvP) any more.
I was killed in a 1 v 1 by a sorc the other night because he found a way to practically permanently bug Ball of Lightning. 90% of his crushing shocks hit me despite having ball of Lightning up and standing on it 100% of the time. Apparently you can position yourself in a way to attack a sorc and avoid Ball of Lightning altogether. It was only a matter of before people figured out exactly how the bug worked and began exploiting it.
But yeah I agree with you in general that Dampen Magic is overkill but I'd still use it if I could split it into its own shield bar.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Same reason I don't use it in PvP. I use it in PvE for certain situations.I finally got around to watching this and enjoyed the realism. I must say it appears you're dying to the same things that I used to die to earlier in 1.6 and that is a false sense of security given by Dampen Magic. Like me you really only notice when your shield bar decreases and when you're showing a "full" shield bar and it's all magic absorbing only and that damn kitty softpaws lets loose his arrow you're a goner.
I dropped Dampen Magic completely until they can provide an interface hook that allows us to see the difference between damage shields and magic only shields. I reviewed all my early footage and noticed that right away, removing it probably cut my deaths in half and added another slot for another useful ability. Try running only hardened and healing ward and see how you like it. You'll be a little weaker against casters but with Ball Lightning it isn't that big of a deal.
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✭My enthusiasm for Dampen also waned once I started playing with Inevitable Detonation. I had to find a slot for ID, and Dampen was the least useful thing on either bar
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cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ways around BOL
Stand directly on there ball avoids the grabbing magicka projectile effect. or stand in between the bol and the bol caster.
they must be standing directly behind the bol now to absorb projectiles, it seems in 1.6 the radius for grabbing projectiles has decreased. just line up around the bol to a direct line and you will hit them.
when they have 2 or more bol up it seems to bug them out if you stand directly between 2 and you can shoot the caster as if they are not even there.
heavey staff attacks go through the bol so work those into your rotation.
thats what i have found from countless fights with bol sorcs.
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~Leper Si -V14 Sorcerer~
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just curious, what happens if you dk chain a sorc with BOL in a viable position to intercept it?Edited by Armitas on 24 March 2015 16:33Retired.
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cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭you get pulled back or the dk gets pulled to the bol. seen someone keep up with me this way before lols.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
~Leper Si -V14 Sorcerer~
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just curious, what happens if you dk chain a sorc with BOL in a viable position to intercept it?
I love when I see DKs with chains. Drop Daedric mines. Stand on the outside of of them. Cast Defensive Posture.
Profit.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
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Well now you can just hit block and we come to you. I tried to jump over them a few times with dragon leap, doesn't work. Sad panda. I guess they are anti aircraft mines as well.Edited by Armitas on 24 March 2015 20:13Retired.
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »you get pulled back or the dk gets pulled to the bol. seen someone keep up with me this way before lols.
Any sorcs for hire for when I can't mount up because of infinite combat? Just ride the choo choo train bionic commando style.Edited by Armitas on 24 March 2015 20:17Retired.
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
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Well now you can just hit block and we come to you. I tried to jump over them a few times with dragon leap, doesn't work. Sad panda. I guess they are anti aircraft mines as well.
Yeah dont feel bad, I have video of my trying to rush a defended gate north of nikel by barrel rolling around a corner. Unbeknownst to me some enterprising sorc laid down a mine field right around that corner. My single roll hit all 5 mines and I was instagibbed, shield stack and all.cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »you get pulled back or the dk gets pulled to the bol. seen someone keep up with me this way before lols.
Any sorcs for hire for when I can't mount up because of infinite combat? Just ride the choo choo train bionic commando style.
Gooey rode me from that very gate all the way to nikel once. It's the longest ride anyone has taken on the EZ-train and it almost killed me ) :
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cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
Well now you can just hit block and we come to you. I tried to jump over them a few times with dragon leap, doesn't work. Sad panda. I guess they are anti aircraft mines as well.
Yeah dont feel bad, I have video of my trying to rush a defended gate north of nikel by barrel rolling around a corner. Unbeknownst to me some enterprising sorc laid down a mine field right around that corner. My single roll hit all 5 mines and I was instagibbed, shield stack and all.cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »you get pulled back or the dk gets pulled to the bol. seen someone keep up with me this way before lols.
Any sorcs for hire for when I can't mount up because of infinite combat? Just ride the choo choo train bionic commando style.
Gooey rode me from that very gate all the way to nikel once. It's the longest ride anyone has taken on the EZ-train and it almost killed me ) :
lol, i had a dk the other day shield charging me over and over again from Arrius to BRK. He was a tank build so he wasnt doing much damage, when we got to the lumbermill at BRK he whispered me, 'Thanks for the ride man". lol.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
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