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ESO PVP - Sorcerer 'Growing Pains' ~Leper Si~ Tamriel Umlimited 2.0.1

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  • Werg3d
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    Nice music man) very appropriate
  • Kypho
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    Brag about OPness? :D Its like DK before 2.0 just a bit worse. How many will brag about their OP class? until they fix in ESO 6.0? Then comes Templars i guess. Full Templar awesomeness? :D

    Forgot: you should use hardened ward just a bit more and wont be "what the f..." moment
    Edited by Kypho on 21 March 2015 22:57
  • Mumnoch
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    Sorc has decent burst skills in PVP (no sustained which is the issue for PVE players) if you play the waiting game or fight bad players. Both of which happened in this video. Not sure what point you are trying to make here?
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    the best moment was the sorc vs sorc 1 on 1. at least that was fair, OP vs OP
    Thx for video anyway. All what makes sorc OP is in video. :D And fun was that 8000 attack in a row need to deplete magicka :D ZoS is a BIG fail.
    Edited by Kypho on 21 March 2015 23:14
  • Tankqull
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    nice one - bloody snipes :D
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    Lesson to learn: Don´t slack when shieldstacking :neutral:

    (I feel ppl will say even after seeing you vid that shields are op and should be removed)
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  • Oughash
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    Great video!
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    Them Jump Out Boys. Good hit Kitty :31, Shadow 8:59, & Me 13:36 :p
    Edited by TheBull on 22 March 2015 03:47
  • Erock25
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    Great video. Shows the highs and lows of the class well. If you want shields strong enough to be worth relying on, you need to stack magicka and regen. If you do that, you have low health and mitigation. With low health and mitigation comes basically unavoidable one shots and any tiny little mistake on your part usually ends in your death.

    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.
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  • ShadowStep
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    LOL love it
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  • Singular
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    Totally enjoyable. Loved the musical themes for winning and losing.

    :)
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  • Domander
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    I'm so disappointed our fight didn't make it into the vid :(

    I thought it was a good one.

    Nice video anyway.
  • Kahrgan
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    I enjoyed the fact that most of your "kill" highlights were people running away.

    Also that you were complaining about being one shot, while having 17k hp, an incredibly low value imho.
  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Nice video.
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  • Vis
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    Excellent compilation! I'll be changing up one of my tactics because of it. Thanks for the contribution!
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    Kahrgan wrote: »
    I enjoyed the fact that most of your "kill" highlights were people running away.

    Also that you were complaining about being one shot, while having 17k hp, an incredibly low value imho.

    Do you by any chance understand that this is what sorcs are trying to explain to the non sorc whiners? There are drawbacks to light armor usage without a class heal. You have to stack magica and shield yourself 100% of the time. Else you´re oneshot.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Domander wrote: »
    I'm so disappointed our fight didn't make it into the vid :(

    I thought it was a good one.

    Nice video anyway.

    i have way more clips, i didnt want to make it too long. probably the next one.
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Brag about OPness? :D Its like DK before 2.0 just a bit worse. How many will brag about their OP class? until they fix in ESO 6.0? Then comes Templars i guess. Full Templar awesomeness? :D

    Forgot: you should use hardened ward just a bit more and wont be "what the f..." moment

    What are you, high?

    This is one of the (few) videos that shows the person;s losses/time killed and there are enough of them in there to clearly demonstrate that sorcerers can be defeated ... sometimes quite easily in fact.
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Brag about OPness? :D Its like DK before 2.0 just a bit worse. How many will brag about their OP class? until they fix in ESO 6.0? Then comes Templars i guess. Full Templar awesomeness? :D

    Forgot: you should use hardened ward just a bit more and wont be "what the f..." moment

    What are you, high?

    This is one of the (few) videos that shows the person;s losses/time killed and there are enough of them in there to clearly demonstrate that sorcerers can be defeated ... sometimes quite easily in fact.

    Ye quite easy. but 4 times harder than others. and only snipe deaths.... what happens only because he didnt paid attention, or wanted to streak away without shieldspam. other class would die faster thats all
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Brag about OPness? :D Its like DK before 2.0 just a bit worse. How many will brag about their OP class? until they fix in ESO 6.0? Then comes Templars i guess. Full Templar awesomeness? :D

    Forgot: you should use hardened ward just a bit more and wont be "what the f..." moment

    What are you, high?

    This is one of the (few) videos that shows the person;s losses/time killed and there are enough of them in there to clearly demonstrate that sorcerers can be defeated ... sometimes quite easily in fact.

    Ye quite easy. but 4 times harder than others. and only snipe deaths.... what happens only because he didnt paid attention, or wanted to streak away without shieldspam. other class would die faster thats all

    all classes are hard to kill if played well. maybe you havent seen it but i have.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Kahrgan wrote: »
    I enjoyed the fact that most of your "kill" highlights were people running away.

    Also that you were complaining about being one shot, while having 17k hp, an incredibly low value imho.

    I dont see what you are talking about people just running in my videos, if they are running its because they know they are out matched or have ran themselves out of some stat magicka or stamina and know they are boned.

    i wasnt complaining in my video, it was gamer rage, lol. if you want complaining here we go.

    getting 1-2 shot through a 10k shields plus 17k life is a bit ridiculous, wouldnt you agree. maybe you wouldnt because you are set in your no skill, longest range weapon from stealth kills, and can out run a bolting sorc with a combination of a dodge roll with a bow and a run speed increase buff (which i believe should be a dual wield passive because of their range restrictions), plus you can stun from stealth from a mile away leaving pretty much getting a free kill on anybody not in heavy armor. why are you able to restealth after hitting someone with an arrow from sneak? is it a bug or was it inteaded, either way it needs to be fixed so you cannot do 2 stealth attacks with in seconds of each other. why is only arrows effected with health desync to where you are dead before you even realized the first arrow even hit you? why does is the least skillful weapon so damn powerful? why does the longest ranged weapon get so many benefits is beyond me, yet you guys will come on here and complain about sorcs ??

    complaining about bow is over.

    but wait there is more, why is dragonknight's petrify instant cast, didnt zos see that as could be OP. i guess not, the combination with this and wrecking blow is off the charts crazy good and you cannot seem to cc break half the time if you are flying through the air from the wrecking blow because of the bug with soft cc and hard cc being on you at the same time.

    why are tanks able to block indefinitely no matter how much you beat on there stam bar, and are able to take on 5 players for 5 minutes.

    why are stamina builds able to roll dodge forever, negating most skills in the game?

    Why do i get cc'ed sometimes while i have the swirls around my feet?

    why can i not break out of cc's with a full stam bar sometimes?

    Why Cant I Bolt Escape When The Server Lags!!!!!

    why am i forced into max magica and spell damage to compete with hybrid stam builds and there damage?


    i could really go on and on and on and on and on. so please, things are messed up in pvp right now, and lag isnt helping the situation.

    i lol at pvp right now.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    I saw no swirlies at your feet after the fear, so I guess not. I thought you only get swirlies if you stun break no?
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    I saw no swirlies at your feet after the fear, so I guess not. I thought you only get swirlies if you stun break no?

    well you have been misinformed, introduced in 1.6, at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune to prevent perma fear spam. obviously it bugged out, yes i didnt have stamina but i also should have recieved cc immunity.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    It's happened to me several times now. Sneak stun being stacked with fear with cc immunity not kicking in despite using break free.
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Brag about OPness? :D Its like DK before 2.0 just a bit worse. How many will brag about their OP class? until they fix in ESO 6.0? Then comes Templars i guess. Full Templar awesomeness? :D

    Forgot: you should use hardened ward just a bit more and wont be "what the f..." moment

    He dies plenty of times, and like him I find lethal arrow to be the bane of my existence. But I guess you are only going to focus on the parts that fit into your own perceptions. Incidentally I have never once posted in any threads stating that lethal arrow was OP.
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  • Erock25
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    I saw no swirlies at your feet after the fear, so I guess not. I thought you only get swirlies if you stun break no?

    well you have been misinformed, introduced in 1.6, at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune to prevent perma fear spam. obviously it bugged out, yes i didnt have stamina but i also should have recieved cc immunity.

    Maybe I'm missing out on something but I thought that while you were CC'd you couldn't be CC'd again. In what I quote you say 'at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune,' but to me it seems if you aren't CC immune during the fear, that the player can just fear you over and over before it runs out. Also, if this is the way all CC's work, can't someone just spam their whatever CC that stuns/kbs for 2 seconds and you basically force the enemy to CC break or die.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    I saw no swirlies at your feet after the fear, so I guess not. I thought you only get swirlies if you stun break no?

    well you have been misinformed, introduced in 1.6, at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune to prevent perma fear spam. obviously it bugged out, yes i didnt have stamina but i also should have recieved cc immunity.

    Maybe I'm missing out on something but I thought that while you were CC'd you couldn't be CC'd again. In what I quote you say 'at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune,' but to me it seems if you aren't CC immune during the fear, that the player can just fear you over and over before it runs out. Also, if this is the way all CC's work, can't someone just spam their whatever CC that stuns/kbs for 2 seconds and you basically force the enemy to CC break or die.

    not sure if they can fear before the fear runs out again, i have never noticed that happening.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    What do you think happened in your last clip there against the NB? Looked like a fear right into a sneak attack stun to me, but not sure. I seem to get double CC'd like that quite often.

    He got feared, had not enough Stamina to stunbreak and so was susceptible to Concealed Weapon sneak stun. He wasn't able to get out of the Meteor AoE either.

    funny, i thought after fear you are cc immune?? lols. i guess not in this case.

    I saw no swirlies at your feet after the fear, so I guess not. I thought you only get swirlies if you stun break no?

    well you have been misinformed, introduced in 1.6, at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune to prevent perma fear spam. obviously it bugged out, yes i didnt have stamina but i also should have recieved cc immunity.

    Maybe I'm missing out on something but I thought that while you were CC'd you couldn't be CC'd again. In what I quote you say 'at the end of fear you are supposed to be cc immune,' but to me it seems if you aren't CC immune during the fear, that the player can just fear you over and over before it runs out. Also, if this is the way all CC's work, can't someone just spam their whatever CC that stuns/kbs for 2 seconds and you basically force the enemy to CC break or die.

    not sure if they can fear before the fear runs out again, i have never noticed that happening.

    Just tested it in PvE and mobs do get cc immune swirls after fear. Looks like you got trolled by a bug.
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