Pretty damn obvious that while the move is changed and made slightly better, it still pales in comparison to it's cousins from other classes and skill lines.

It's still there, that 1 sec delay before you can use a skill again. I did notice a very tiny improvement on PTS, but Invasion still works much smoother.

Very inconvenient and pointless to equip a gap closer that's also cc'ing the user lol. Specially since the 2-Hander and S&B skill does the job nicely.

timidobserver wrote: »

Clearly the skill would be OP if it didn't CC the user for 1 second.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the shield charge spam.

It absolutely astounds me how obstinate ZoS is in keeping the unnecessary global cooldown on this skill.

If this had *anything* to do with balance concerns, then all the other gap-closers would have the same cooldown.

Nestor wrote: »

Pmarsico9 wrote: »

Better question is who actually uses charges on loadouts in anything other than leveling and maybe the sick individuals who try to PVP without a bow or bathrobe and stick.

I use Invasion all the time in PvE (that does not mean Trials). It's a great way to handle multiple mobs, Invasion, drop a DoT, turn to the next Mob repeat. Get the timing down, and 3 mobs are just perma stunned while I deal out damage.

I wanted to use the Templar Ability, but not after hearing about this cool down timer. Who's bright idea was that? The whole reason I use Invasion is so I can use another skill immediately after. I am glad I did not waste skill point on this.

Yes that's exactly the point though:

If Invasion is so good (Critical Charge is awesome, too), what's the purpose?

This class gives up AN ENTIRE TREE to healing, then has support abilities peppered into its two other trees.

Focused Charge will never be better than Invasion, Shielded Assault, or Critical Charge.

Look at it from this perspective:

Blinding Flashes was far more useful than Focused Charge. And it was just removed and replaced with Radiant Destruction.

Put a melee DoT there like Searing Strike or something. In fact put anything there that actually deals damage rather than being a situational piece of crap that for some reason is the only ability in the game that needs a GCD........

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

I'm actually ok with that idea, a melee dot that is.

Khivas, let's look at it this way:

How does it fit into the kit? Even if it worked like it was supposed to, would you prefer that as DPS or Critical Charge as a gap closer? Or would you prefer neither and simply swap to a bow to continue some pressure?

How about if you tanked? Would you prefer this or as somebody posted above, Invasion/Shielded Assault?

What about this ability improves the kit overall?

Because having leveled as a Tank-lar, I leveled both morphs of this to full and you know what?

I never used it. It never fit a loadout. As a tank, the best thing you can do is help heal. Spending a precious ability slot on this piece of junk compared to Invasion providing CC or Shielded Assault providing a shield that stacks with Sun Shield is a no brainer.

I have another interrupt. Explosive is a terrible morph and Toppling is very limited in what it actually works on.

So for a class with a 10 ability potential kit for damage dealing actives, where does this fit?

In my opinion it doesn't. It serves no purpose in any particular facet of ESO gameplay. It only offers redundancy and is inferior in so many ways to other abilities.

So here's a suggestion:

Replace it with Crowd Control or a melee DoT to maintain.

So, on ESO live, the dude said that the global cool down on the Templar charge was a bug, and that it is going to be removed.

I find it hard to believe they really thought it was a bug, since the PTS patch notes specifically say that the 'global cool down' on the skill was being only 'slightly reduced'. But in any case, this is good news!

Pmarsico9 wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

I'm actually ok with that idea, a melee dot that is.

Khivas, let's look at it this way:

How does it fit into the kit? Even if it worked like it was supposed to, would you prefer that as DPS or Critical Charge as a gap closer? Or would you prefer neither and simply swap to a bow to continue some pressure?

How about if you tanked? Would you prefer this or as somebody posted above, Invasion/Shielded Assault?

What about this ability improves the kit overall?

Because having leveled as a Tank-lar, I leveled both morphs of this to full and you know what?

I never used it. It never fit a loadout. As a tank, the best thing you can do is help heal. Spending a precious ability slot on this piece of junk compared to Invasion providing CC or Shielded Assault providing a shield that stacks with Sun Shield is a no brainer.

I have another interrupt. Explosive is a terrible morph and Toppling is very limited in what it actually works on.

So for a class with a 10 ability potential kit for damage dealing actives, where does this fit?

In my opinion it doesn't. It serves no purpose in any particular facet of ESO gameplay. It only offers redundancy and is inferior in so many ways to other abilities.

So here's a suggestion:

Replace it with Crowd Control or a melee DoT to maintain.

For a magicka based templar - a magicka based gap closer fits really well into the kit. Also, you get synergy from Templpar passive Burning Light and is one of few reliable stuns a magicka templar has. Without this skill how should I chase a fleeing sorc?

Using any kind og stam based gap closer is a no go, since often I cant activated for being low on stamina or if I use it 1 or 2 times im stam drained and next frag will CC me and then die cos I cannot break CC. Without this magicka charge an entire build style of templar (think WoW Retribution Paladin or something like that) is basically destroyed.

I dont think I would ever use a gap closer for PvE - just aoe spam is fine.

The last time the developers even talked about templars on the forums was in june 2014 im pretty sure?

Atleast thats the last post in the developer discussion section. because ZoS cares about the communication to the templar community on game breaking issues.

Templars may just be the new Scourge 2.0

Planned to delete them, accidently do it earlier then expected. screw every player out of everything they worked for.

Sounds about right to me.