The Magicka - Stamina Divide - The new meta for 1.6

TagaParti · February 2015

lol, just lol.

Cody · February 2015

No. the "new" meta, will be damage shield stack/spam

MA users, combined with champion passives, will be able to roll dodge a f*** ton of times, true, but one cant attack while roll dodging, however, one can attack while stacking/spamming damage shields

AhPook_Is_Here · February 2015

I haven't tested enough yet, but on my dstaff/rstaff sorc I am still doing fine against all the melee opponents I have came up against except one who was in a perfect spec to kill a vampire which I happened to be.

Shield stacking is still effective, so magicka isn't dead. Also it's nice to have a STA pool to dodge and break free with, something builds that rely on sta for damage won't always have.

Someone made a point somewhere about not being able to damage while rolling, true but you can't damage while refreshing shields either, so it is a wash.

I do really like the new PVP skills so far. Detonate magicka is good times.

RinaldoGandolphi · February 2015

True but dodge roll doesn't require a spot on your skill bar and gives 100% avoidance to all single target attacks, my shields cost magic to cast and have a time duration as well as a value of how much damage they can take.

Both dodge roll spam and shield spam could be seen as equally lame.

I wont call for dodge roll to be nerfed I understand folks build for that just like magic users build to spam shields and spells. I accept that. When one starts spamming dodge on me I simply blink blink bye bye and find someone else to kill, wont waste my time in that.

See someone spamming damage shields you can't break, simply withdraw and bide your time till opportunity presents its self to kill the person.

Retreating is a valid tactic sometimes.

kijima · February 2015

Dodge rolling means your actively doing something, your playing the game. I'd hate to see that nerfed.

Ezareth · February 2015

Well I finally spent the time to min/max and testing on everything on PTS before I Iogged. If people are crying about Bolt Escape now, wait until 1.6 I was able to Bolt Escape 16 times in a row with my final build and I wont even get into the absurdity of my damage shields(20-40K depending on situation and damage type). 15K instant cast fragment crits. The NBs tears are going to be real come 1.6.

I for one welcome our new Sorcerer overlords.

Soulac · February 2015

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Well I finally spent the time to min/max and testing on everything on PTS before I Iogged. If people are crying about Bolt Escape now, wait until 1.6 I was able to Bolt Escape 16 times in a row with my final build and I wont even get into the absurdity of my damage shields(20-40K depending on situation and damage type). 15K instant cast fragment crits. The NBs tears are going to be real come 1.6.

I for one welcome our new Sorcerer overlords.

I wouldn't be that sure

kijima · February 2015

Yerp, plenty of NB tears to come, I think DK's will be feeling the pinch more than ever with 1.6 too

7 Light with shield stacking and reduction/regen glyphs with passives on reduction costs, and regen will be the go I'd wager.

RinaldoGandolphi · February 2015

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Well I finally spent the time to min/max and testing on everything on PTS before I Iogged. If people are crying about Bolt Escape now, wait until 1.6 I was able to Bolt Escape 16 times in a row with my final build and I wont even get into the absurdity of my damage shields(20-40K depending on situation and damage type). 15K instant cast fragment crits. The NBs tears are going to be real come 1.6.

I for one welcome our new Sorcerer overlords.

Yeah I was messing around as well and found the same, ill have a few enchants and stat points to switch around, but its going to be fun.

I'm also noticing stacking magicka is now more benifical since damage shields now get such values.

I still think stamina will have the best burst damage, but magicka builds will have much more survivability while still doing decent damage with the right set up.

Mumyo · February 2015

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Observant · February 2015

I want whatever the OP is smoking...

RinaldoGandolphi · February 2015

Observant wrote: »

I want whatever the OP is smoking...

I think many are misunderstanding what im trying to say here and twisting the argument around to their benefit.

Light Armor is NOT the best armor type for dealing pure damage and it also has the least amount of protection.

Medium Armor has 200% better armor and spell resistance, will deal more damage with stamina abilities. Not to mention the Stamina benefits Medium Armor gives to Stamina are much better then the Magic Benefits Light Armor gives to magic.

However, please continue to turn this thread into a "Well LA can spam Damage sheilds" or "Medium Armor can dodge roll a lot" when in reality neither of those things has jack squat to do with the premise of this discussion.

Classic deflection 101.

AhPook_Is_Here · February 2015

You can't compare apples to oranges without lookin at the trees or the sky!

Sharee · February 2015

woodsro wrote: »

However, please continue to turn this thread into a "Well LA can spam Damage sheilds" or "Medium Armor can dodge roll a lot" when in reality neither of those things has jack squat to do with the premise of this discussion.

... because the insanely overpowered damage shields currently on PTS will have absolutely nothing to do with whether magicka will be the new meta or not...

/rollseyes