Templar focused charge animation needs fixing

cscheler83b14_ESO · April 2014

When you charge the enemy it doesn't look at all like your attacking your target instead it looks like your attacking something on the other side of them in front of you. Does anyone else agree? The animation for this ability needs to be fixed so it looks like its piercing the target of the charge .

Edenwolf · April 2014

For sure, feels like I'm jumping behind the target, I'm sure it's not intended.

Cernow · April 2014

This ability seems to make you overshoot your intended target and you end up beyond them, facing away from them. You cannot land you next attack without repositioning yourself. I can't think that this is the intended behaviour for this ability, so it needs fixing.

DankShank · April 2014

The first complaint I actually agree with! My templar is redguard so I assumed she just had mad dunk skills

cscheler83b14_ESO · April 2014

Thanks for contributing, guys! I love charge abilities and for them to work they need to be done right!

paul.s.gottub17_ESO · April 2014

Yep - this really needs to be fixed - almost always blasts me past the enemy facing away from them.

Nemesis7884 · April 2014

yes this ability needs urgent fixing...it makes no sense using like that and having the enemy in your back then...like this its really way worse than critical charge - no reason to use it

Nemesis7884 · April 2014

i just recognised, a lot of times you dont even hit the target and do no damage - really bugged

Darrett · April 2014

Also tends to get you locked into position thanks to enemy CD. Bad news.

Ranger · October 2014

and 7 months later......

its still the same

useless

cozmon3c_ESO · October 2014

All charges have been messed up since 1.3, now if zenimax would do some fixing of it combat would feel alot less clunky. Charges root and silence there target during the charge. You see more and more of this abuse as people figure it out. This has been happening since 1.3, before that all was good.

Fafnisbane · October 2014

The animation is reportedly fixed in 1.5.

The main problem with this skill, however, is not the animation, terrible as it is. It's the global cooldown: for about 1-2 seconds after charging, you can't perform ANY action (except blocking). Which makes it useless, because it effectively stuns you longer than it stuns your opponent.

As a result of the bot wars, when trains of bots would focused-charge-biting-jabs spam, templars are cursed with the only skills in the game to have a global cooldown. There is no word on this from Zeni, who originally did not even confirm that the cooldown had been implemented.

Pmarsico9 · October 2014

Fafnisbane wrote: »

The animation is reportedly fixed in 1.5.

The main problem with this skill, however, is not the animation, terrible as it is. It's the global cooldown: for about 1-2 seconds after charging, you can't perform ANY action (except blocking). Which makes it useless, because it effectively stuns you longer than it stuns your opponent.

As a result of the bot wars, when trains of bots would focused-charge-biting-jabs spam, templars are cursed with the only skills in the game to have a global cooldown. There is no word on this from Zeni, who originally did not even confirm that the cooldown had been implemented.

I stopped using it and started using Shield Charge. It simply doesn't work.

cozmon3c_ESO · October 2014

Hopefully they read and fix this, you should not have that global cool down.

david.haypreub18_ESO · October 2014

Quite a few Templar skills are actually inferior to skills available to all classes. Focused Charge is worse than Invasion. Cleansing Ritual is worse than Purge (at least for group PvP).

Fafnisbane · October 2014

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Quite a few Templar skills are actually inferior to skills available to all classes. Focused Charge is worse than Invasion. Cleansing Ritual is worse than Purge (at least for group PvP).

Very true.

On the other hand, Blazing Spear is better than Impulse, and Breath of Life is better than everything else.

I'd happily trade the entire Dawn's Wrath skill line for Green Dragon Blood though.

timidobserver · October 2014

This issue gets mentioned all the time but there is never a dev response and it never gets fixed. I can only assume that focused charge was designed to be clunky and useless.

JLB · October 2014

At least can you change the tooltip @ZOS?
"Charge to target and stun for 1.5 seconds and make caster completely useless for 3 seconds."
Or something alike.

KenjiJU · October 2014

Would like the animation to start mid-charge instead of doing that weird floaty assault at the end.

Pmarsico9 · October 2014

Fafnisbane wrote: »

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Quite a few Templar skills are actually inferior to skills available to all classes. Focused Charge is worse than Invasion. Cleansing Ritual is worse than Purge (at least for group PvP).

On the other hand, Blazing Spear is better than Impulse, and Breath of Life is better than everything else.

Impulse is better than Blazing Spear. Blazing Spear can be walked out of and Burning Light isn't guaranteed to proc. Impulse and especially Elemental Ring are higher guaranteed damage per magicka and damage per cast especially if you factor in burning.

Breath of Life is amazing in some ways, and completely pales in comparison to GDB in many others. The spill over is awesome for PVE, but in PVP, Grand Healing is generally a much stronger heal to keep up especially in conjunction with Ritual and Regen. BoL will not always go where you want it, which can be maddening in certain situations, like getting into a PVP fight in Cheydinhal or something.

Khivas_Carrick · October 2014

@Pmarsico is right on that bol one lol. Also I pray/look forward to the day where I as a Templar have more viable class skills outside of one or two common place ones XD

Fafnisbane · November 2014

Pmarsico9 wrote: »

Fafnisbane wrote: »

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Quite a few Templar skills are actually inferior to skills available to all classes. Focused Charge is worse than Invasion. Cleansing Ritual is worse than Purge (at least for group PvP).

On the other hand, Blazing Spear is better than Impulse, and Breath of Life is better than everything else.

Impulse is better than Blazing Spear. Blazing Spear can be walked out of and Burning Light isn't guaranteed to proc. Impulse and especially Elemental Ring are higher guaranteed damage per magicka and damage per cast especially if you factor in burning.

Breath of Life is amazing in some ways, and completely pales in comparison to GDB in many others. The spill over is awesome for PVE, but in PVP, Grand Healing is generally a much stronger heal to keep up especially in conjunction with Ritual and Regen. BoL will not always go where you want it, which can be maddening in certain situations, like getting into a PVP fight in Cheydinhal or something.

Oh, agreed on BoL. I meant it's the best skill in the game for a healer, but as a self-heal it's meh. As I said, I'd trade the entire Dawn's Wrath line for Green Dragon Blood in a second.

Blazing Spear has less guaranteed damage than Impulse, but significantly higher average damage. It's especially useful as a defensive skill and you're spamming it on breaches or flags, because then every tick of the dot can also proc Burning Light. And, of course, you can aim it and attack at a distance. And you can use it with any weapon equipped: especially with 1h and shield while holding block (if you reassign interrupt), so you're much less squishy than if you're blocking with a destro staff.

Blazing Spear is not as good as Impulse as a zerging skill, but it's much better at zerg-busting.

Imdrefan · November 2014

I'll take a magicka gap closer even with the slight delay. Stamina is too valuable to use on a charge.

I personally don't mind being behind them after I charge, I have the advantage being able to turn around quickly as they are breaking their CC and make an attack and as they are turning towards me I try to run past them to make them have to turn again. I find it helps with that sort of tactic.