I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

bitaken wrote: »

Funny thing is it's EP doing the DC punishing at night - so they get it back during the day and during primetime. I wish it were not this way I really do. If the keeps were relatively balanced in the morning - and scrolls not all east - I would happily guest on Wabba all day and then come for the fun here at night. However, that's not the way it is when I log in.

Pulling a scroll out of a yellow keep at 8am central time is punishing EP?

I log in and check the map each morning before work. I saw what was going on.

The more you push, the more you'll give them incentive to flip at night. What do you think the night crew hears from the departing prime time shift each night?

"DC camped Chalman all day. They pushed us to the gates earlier. They flipped everything when there was only 5 EP on at 8am."

And variations of those whines.

I don't care who gets farmed and usually leave farming teams alone, as they're not worth the time it takes to break the farm. I find fights where I can, and help out where I feel we can be effective.

What I do know is how people react to things, and I can see how this will go the more this continues.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

I didn't say it justified it. I said it started it.

Could you please provide justification for pulling blue scrolls out of their temples at 2-3am? What night capping of theirs were you punishing?

From what I understood (and mind I was totally against that because of the [snip] it caused yesterday as a result) it was because of Blue ninja capping Alessia when we were both trying to depose Folgers. Home keep and all that.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

I didn't say it justified it. I said it started it.

Could you please provide justification for pulling blue scrolls out of their temples at 2-3am? What night capping of theirs were you punishing?

From what I understood (and mind I was totally against that because of the s***storm it caused yesterday as a result) it was because of Blue ninja capping Alessia when we were both trying to depose Folgers. Home keep and all that.

That... is not a justification I either expected or would use myself in this situation.

Thank you for your honesty, though.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend until they get greedy >_> and opportunistic.

Besides it turned into hell in a handbasket that made AD a target for both blue and red primetimes pretty much the whole day long. Red for their scrolls, blue because they were mad + their scrolls.

Lots of PvP, but also tons of everything happening at once. There was even a moment we were riding to go try to offense a keep, and had to pull back and retrace a minute later because the OTHER faction was hitting the one we just defended.

The 20k alessia tick Morinth referred to a couple pages back, we literally were sieged there by both factions for about three hours straight.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

I didn't say it justified it. I said it started it.

Could you please provide justification for pulling blue scrolls out of their temples at 2-3am? What night capping of theirs were you punishing?

From what I understood (and mind I was totally against that because of the s***storm it caused yesterday as a result) it was because of Blue ninja capping Alessia when we were both trying to depose Folgers. Home keep and all that.

That... is not a justification I either expected or would use myself in this situation.

Thank you for your honesty, though.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend until they get greedy >_> and opportunistic.

Besides it turned into hell in a handbasket that made AD a target for both blue and red primetimes pretty much the whole day long. Red for their scrolls, blue because they were mad + their scrolls.

Lots of PvP, but also tons of everything happening at once.

The fact that blue was nearly able to push emperor yesterday during prime time with 2 bars of population vs locked yellow (and a demoralized red), was a credit to their organizational skills.

That they were in that situation in the first place I attribute entirely to these forum wars and blameslinging.

All three factions are more or less even in regards to organized raid groups. We have three, you probably have the same from what ive seen, blue has about four across different times, rarely on at the same time.

Organized group-wise, blue is actually the strongest faction. Red/Yellow has a ton of puglets. A ton.

Come to think of it, i have yet to meet a blue group that I could consider a pug group.

My main beef in all of this is that one of the red raids has moved to an entirely overnight schedule and thrown the campaign into chaos.

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

I didn't say it justified it. I said it started it.

Could you please provide justification for pulling blue scrolls out of their temples at 2-3am? What night capping of theirs were you punishing?

From what I understood (and mind I was totally against that because of the [snip] it caused yesterday as a result) it was because of Blue ninja capping Alessia when we were both trying to depose Folgers. Home keep and all that.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Whoa there nelly. We did not ninja cap it. I was actually communicating with someone on your side who said and I will quote: "We can't beat them they are too many." To which I responded "We will cap it and leave it undefended and busted up for an easy recap" to which they responded "That would be awesome thanks!" That is exactly what we did - now - there were some other DC who did not want to pass it along easy - but EHJ left immediately and that was exactly how it went down.

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I cant believe the justification for all this BS is still the one off thing Valnas' crew did almost two weeks ago that none of us even supported. Most of us felt it was cheesy and dumb.

When Bk went up we fought primetime for that, and all of our pushes are primetime since. You cant say because AD did it ONCE that it justifies the six times EP has done it since.

I didn't say it justified it. I said it started it.

Could you please provide justification for pulling blue scrolls out of their temples at 2-3am? What night capping of theirs were you punishing?

From what I understood (and mind I was totally against that because of the s***storm it caused yesterday as a result) it was because of Blue ninja capping Alessia when we were both trying to depose Folgers. Home keep and all that.

That... is not a justification I either expected or would use myself in this situation.

Thank you for your honesty, though.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend until they get greedy >_> and opportunistic.

Besides it turned into hell in a handbasket that made AD a target for both blue and red primetimes pretty much the whole day long. Red for their scrolls, blue because they were mad + their scrolls.

Lots of PvP, but also tons of everything happening at once.

The fact that blue was nearly able to push emperor yesterday during prime time with 2 bars of population vs locked yellow (and a demoralized red), was a credit to their organizational skills.

That they were in that situation in the first place I attribute entirely to these forum wars and blameslinging.

All three factions are more or less even in regards to organized raid groups. We have three, you probably have the same from what ive seen, blue has about four across different times, rarely on at the same time.

Organized group-wise, blue is actually the strongest faction. Red/Yellow has a ton of puglets. A ton.

Come to think of it, i have yet to meet a blue group that I could consider a pug group.

Any group with Natalie Mayweather in it. (she guests here regularly as her home server, Bloodthorn, is dead)

UDL are pugs with a guild chat and bad "RP" screams in /zone.

Part of why they have lower population is the lack of puglets on blue's side.

Might and his team are organized.
Yote/Emberscale's group are organized.
Einherjar requires a plan to deal with due to the large pain train.
Fengrush & Co. are Fengrush & Co.

And all of Yellows main groups play at the same time (USA Eastern primetime) half of the guys you listed for blue are on before we log in in force, and then red logs in after we are starting to wane.

It sorta goes like this...

Blue owns the server from 6am - 2pm with yellow underdog struggling to defend keeps.
Yellow logs in and starts to retake ground, blue logs in the rest of their forces, big blue/yellow battles happen until about 6pm when red logs in in force
Blue generally starts logging off at 10pm, leaving the door open for a yellow push for Emp.
Red primetime is in force, blue is at half their numbers, yellow is starting to decline. If the emp push is being successful yellow stays on for another couple hours trying to push it through. If it fails yellow mass logs off at around 2am
From 2am to 6am the leftover yellows get annihilated by half of reds numbers from primetime until 6am when red finally logs off with a new emp and blue takes over again.

Repeat tomorrow.

I would say that's actually a fairly accurate summation of the population cycle.

Define Irony --

DC daycappers (when there's little/no populaton) crowing about accomplishments after complaining bitterly about EP nightcappers (when there's little/no population).[/quote]

If EP would stop doing it to us - things might get different. However, every night we log out we know we are coming back to nothing the next morning. Luckily, we had a stalwart crew of 6 defend stuff last night and we did not lose glade / rayles and warden. However, We fixed all that today.

Anyway, the only reason we de-throned the current emp before primetime is so that warz can get it. However much we may PvP on here Warz you get a lot of respect for taking the punishment you do in our TS. You are way better than the energizer bunny man.

So - I know you're next in line - we de-throned the guy today so that you can be all excited about it. Oh - pro tip - don't abdicate the campaign you earned it.[/quote]

Dude DC started this. Seriously get your head out of your ass, EP started this server literally saying in zone, don't take everything we don't want to kill the server. So we didn't and guess what we went to bed, or work, or w,e logged back on later the next day and bam no scrolls no keeps blue owns the entire upper half and maybe 1 or both of ADs scrolls. Kittenbitten not a single person other than your guild takes anything you say serious because all you do is PvE cap while there is no population. Then immediately come QQing to forums or somehow trying to brag on it to raise your epeen when you need 20-30+ people against 10 online. Just because you log on at 6AM est time to get wrecked trying to stop us from getting Ghartok by me, and play all day cause of a lack of life, doesn't give you a right to try preaching about how oceanic players cant play how they want. YOU sir are nothing more than a hypocrite. and the energizer bunny gave me drumming lessons like a badass bra

Warz wrote: »

Define Irony --



Dude DC started this. Seriously get your head out of your ass, EP started this server literally saying in zone, don't take everything we don't want to kill the server. So we didn't and guess what we went to bed, or work, or w,e logged back on later the next day and bam no scrolls no keeps blue owns the entire upper half and maybe 1 or both of ADs scrolls. Kittenbitten not a single person other than your guild takes anything you say serious because all you do is PvE cap while there is no population. Then immediately come QQing to forums or somehow trying to brag on it to raise your epeen when you need 20-30+ people against 10 online. Just because you log on at 6AM est time to get wrecked trying to stop us from getting Ghartok by me, and play all day cause of a lack of life, doesn't give you a right to try preaching about how oceanic players cant play how they want. YOU sir are nothing more than a hypocrite. and the energizer bunny gave me drumming lessons like a badass bra

Come back to BRK lumbermill so i can farm you some more you tanky little ... dont want to get edited again.

Rylana wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

Define Irony --



Dude DC started this. Seriously get your head out of your ass, EP started this server literally saying in zone, don't take everything we don't want to kill the server. So we didn't and guess what we went to bed, or work, or w,e logged back on later the next day and bam no scrolls no keeps blue owns the entire upper half and maybe 1 or both of ADs scrolls. Kittenbitten not a single person other than your guild takes anything you say serious because all you do is PvE cap while there is no population. Then immediately come QQing to forums or somehow trying to brag on it to raise your epeen when you need 20-30+ people against 10 online. Just because you log on at 6AM est time to get wrecked trying to stop us from getting Ghartok by me, and play all day cause of a lack of life, doesn't give you a right to try preaching about how oceanic players cant play how they want. YOU sir are nothing more than a hypocrite. and the energizer bunny gave me drumming lessons like a badass bra

Come back to BRK lumbermill so i can farm you some more you tanky little ... dont want to get edited again.

lol I'm not that tanky I just go boom.

So is this like a summit or something now?

lolz

Rylana wrote: »

So is this like a summit or something now?

lolz

This is now a thread about sweetrolls and ice cream.

And puppies.

Rylana wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

If you are rooting for my emperorship then dont take it away while I sleep....just sayin

Oh youre losing it as soon as possible. Emperor Warz is not something id find cute or cuddly. Hell no.

But But... during my reign as emp im making all female toons fight naked to make my elite naked female personal guard. Then I will charge out like my crazy self to go balls deep and go boom but actually hurt ALOT

Warz wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

If you are rooting for my emperorship then dont take it away while I sleep....just sayin

Oh youre losing it as soon as possible. Emperor Warz is not something id find cute or cuddly. Hell no.

But But... during my reign as emp im making all female toons fight naked to make my elite naked female personal guard. Then I will charge out like my crazy self to go balls deep and go boom but actually hurt ALOT

My toons take offense to this policy.

Rylana wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

If you are rooting for my emperorship then dont take it away while I sleep....just sayin

Oh youre losing it as soon as possible. Emperor Warz is not something id find cute or cuddly. Hell no.

But But... during my reign as emp im making all female toons fight naked to make my elite naked female personal guard. Then I will charge out like my crazy self to go balls deep and go boom but actually hurt ALOT

My toons take offense to this policy.

then its a good thing you aren't EP