Are Class Kill Quests Bugged or Designed to be Broken

Dragonjunior · July 2014

Two big problems I have with class kill quest:

1. It doesn't register half the time I kill a play of that class. I think this happened to a lot of other players I ran with too.
2. It doesn't register team member kills. Unlike generic kill quest, it doesn't help to be in a group to complete this quest, ESPECIALLY for healers.

I play as a healer in PVP and I can run with a group through an entire zerg without getting credit for a single kill, despite the fact that I got AP for those kills. I have to constantly spam light attack in hope of completing one of these by the end of the day, but then I would ran into problem #

If this is by design, then it is a poor design. If this is a bug, then it is an annoying bug.

Kevinmon · July 2014

They are bugged, but not acknowledged by Zenimax.

Soloeus · July 2014

Dragonjunior wrote: »

Two big problems I have with class kill quest:

1. It doesn't register half the time I kill a play of that class. I think this happened to a lot of other players I ran with too.
2. It doesn't register team member kills. Unlike generic kill quest, it doesn't help to be in a group to complete this quest, ESPECIALLY for healers.

I play as a healer in PVP and I can run with a group through an entire zerg without getting credit for a single kill, despite the fact that I got AP for those kills. I have to constantly spam light attack in hope of completing one of these by the end of the day, but then I would ran into problem #

If this is by design, then it is a poor design. If this is a bug, then it is an annoying bug.

I am also a PVP Heals, and I suffer the same woes. I have "only killed" 9 DK's and for all the NB's, Sorcs and Temps I have surely killed I get nothing.

I wish all 4 quests could be taken together and turned in separately to empower us to complete them.

TomLukman · July 2014

They are not bugged but you have to strike a killing blow to make the counter go up. I'm not sure if this is the design that Zenimax had in mind or a flaw but I believe any strikes should count here including healing strikers because, as someone wrote above, it's hard for healers to do these quests without switching to DPS from time to time.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

I complete them all the time as a DK, but our healers almost never get to. The fact that it's keyed off killing blows is ridiculous as that puts ease of AP gain in the hands of DPS/Damage dealers and gives them an unfair AP advantage.

Tintinabula · July 2014

TomLukman wrote: »

They are not bugged but you have to strike a killing blow to make the counter go up. I'm not sure if this is the design that Zenimax had in mind or a flaw but I believe any strikes should count here including healing strikers because, as someone wrote above, it's hard for healers to do these quests without switching to DPS from time to time.

yea that's not accurate either

I killed a DK last night..I did the most damage.,,. I struck the killing blow. He kept me taloned while I killed him. I started with 15/20 DKs...an hour after killing him still 15/20 DKs

Aeaeren · July 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

TomLukman wrote: »

They are not bugged but you have to strike a killing blow to make the counter go up. I'm not sure if this is the design that Zenimax had in mind or a flaw but I believe any strikes should count here including healing strikers because, as someone wrote above, it's hard for healers to do these quests without switching to DPS from time to time.

yea that's not accurate either I killed a DK last night..I did the most damage.,,. I struck the killing blow. He kept me taloned while I killed him. I started with 15/20 DKs...an hour after killing him still 15/20 DKs

Super seckret skill line that us DKs have that hasn't been nerfed yet

We don't die we just respawn to continue the torment!

eliisra · July 2014

I also heal/support for the most in PvP. It's of course impossible to get those quests done in reasonable time on my Templar.

Also seems you need the KB to get credit, ridiculous design. All based on who has the least lag, best at sniping and kill stealing the last hit lol.

Really blows when you fight someone for a longer duration, than someone else jumps in and pewpew a few arrows, no credit for me.

Also encourages bad game play. Because KB hunting really kills group performance and coordination.

Now, I don't think you should get those quests done by simple being in a zergblobb raid. Than we would finish in 2 minutes. But you should at least get credit if you're in range and assisting with the actual kill.

Snit · July 2014

You don't need the killing blow. I've frequently received credit for a kill well after my last cast, and I don't have any especially damaging DoT spells loaded (I play a sorc).

I suspect you do need to damage them, though. It's likely another case where pure healers are punished.

Jaxom · July 2014

Snit wrote: »

You don't need the killing blow. I've frequently received credit for a kill well after my last cast, and I don't have any especially damaging DoT spells loaded (I play a sorc).

I suspect you do need to damage them, though. It's likely another case where pure healers are punished.

I think it's a certain % of damage needs to be done. I've experienced it both ways where I've damaged and gotten/not gotten credit. Or it could just be bugged which may be the simpler answer.

eliisra · July 2014

Snit wrote: »

You don't need the killing blow. I've frequently received credit for a kill well after my last cast, and I don't have any especially damaging DoT spells loaded (I play a sorc).

I suspect you do need to damage them, though. It's likely another case where pure healers are punished.

Actually you're right. I got the DK quest completed just now without any KB, only a light attack or a spear here and there. Was done in 15 minutes.

Seems it's more a case of quests getting bugged and the killing stops to register for unknown reasons.

SilentThunder · July 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

I complete them all the time as a DK, but our healers almost never get to. The fact that it's keyed off killing blows is ridiculous as that puts ease of AP gain in the hands of DPS/Damage dealers and gives them an unfair AP advantage.

I agree that the killing blow part should go. But really healers have ALLWAYS had a GIGANTIC advantage in gaining AP. Every time they heal anyone in cyrodil they gain AP. If you check most if not all of the top AP holders get there by breaking out there resto staf and solo healing zergs and keep def.

tinythinker · July 2014

Snit wrote: »

You don't need the killing blow. I've frequently received credit for a kill well after my last cast, and I don't have any especially damaging DoT spells loaded (I play a sorc).

I suspect you do need to damage them, though. It's likely another case where pure healers are punished.

Yeah, as a templar who heals a lot I find it isn't simply a killing blow. It took me a few days to do one of those quests, then after I got a partial workaround for the graphics/fps issue today, I finished it and two more without even being grouped. Just hit the targets with resto staff and a javeline in some cases.

tinythinker · July 2014

eliisra wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

You don't need the killing blow. I've frequently received credit for a kill well after my last cast, and I don't have any especially damaging DoT spells loaded (I play a sorc).

I suspect you do need to damage them, though. It's likely another case where pure healers are punished.

Actually you're right. I got the DK quest completed just now without any KB, only a light attack or a spear here and there. Was done in 15 minutes.

Seems it's more a case of quests getting bugged and the killing stops to register for unknown reasons.

Sorry, missed your post and said basically the same as you. As I said, it seems like once I got the worst of the graphics/FPS issue under control completing these quests became much easier.

Kiljaz · July 2014

I have not noticed them being bugged at all... You most definately do not have to land the killing blow. I've gotten credit for 'kills' after one light staff attack on a target I didn't kill.