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Are we ever going to get an ignore feature on these forums?
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jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭If someone wants to ignore you or me that's their choice. Don't see why anyone but a troll would think otherwise.www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO40 -
Fuzzylumpkins✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »Seems to me that would resolve most of the hostility.
Any chance that could be implemented?
Edit: Wow, I should have known even this would be taken the wrong way.
I want to ignore a poster with /ignore.
I prefer they put effort into making the game better and actually work, not into making forums a safer places.
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kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »RedMiniStapler wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Hears_Bright_Colors wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Always love it when fascists call for restrictions on others thoughts. Who made you thought police?
If I read you correctly, you're cleverly demonstrating the need of this ignore feature, right?
Hes not asking for ignore, he is asking to silence all threads that he doesnt like. He did not word it as I want to ignore posters.
The way I read it, blackwidow wanted ignore feature so the s/he can ignore certain posters and avoid reading their forum posts which cause heated arguments and detailed threads, not special button s/he can use to silence threads.
I read it as a desire for an ignore person button also.
And yes I know exactly who I'd put on the list first. In the meantime though...
And? So what if he does? That would still only ignore the person for him, not everyone. They wouldn't be silenced, just unable to be heard by anyone who made a conscious choice not to hear them. Why is that a problem?
I don't know what you are talking about. I didn't have an issue with this. Radgar Lodbrok did.
So....yeah...did you hit the wrong quote here or something?1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
To a degree, I agree with you, and I "ignore them" by trying to bite my tongue (or should that be selotape my typing fingers together) and not respond, but where it is hard is when a genuinely useful discussion is hijacked by a post for one or a few individuals. If there was an ignore feature, I am pretty sure this would decrease, as the people who maybe cannot help responding to said troll, would no longer see the post in the first place if he ignored the person once, and so threads would (hopefully, he says naively) become a less vitriolic placenerevarine1138 wrote: »Everyone comes in with their own built-in ignore feature. If you choose not to use it, that's on you.
See, that's the issue.
People think that because it's hard to exercise just a bit of willpower, someone else is responsible for making their lives easier. If you don't want to respond to a post, don't respond to it. It's that simple.
Someone's afraid of being /ignoredEdited by Blackwidow on 3 July 2014 23:226 -
Ohioastro✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
To a degree, I agree with you, and I "ignore them" by trying to bite my tongue (or should that be selotape my typing fingers together) and not respond, but where it is hard is when a genuinely useful discussion is hijacked by a post for one or a few individuals. If there was an ignore feature, I am pretty sure this would decrease, as the people who maybe cannot help responding to said troll, would no longer see the post in the first place if he ignored the person once, and so threads would (hopefully, he says naively) become a less vitriolic placenerevarine1138 wrote: »Everyone comes in with their own built-in ignore feature. If you choose not to use it, that's on you.
See, that's the issue.
People think that because it's hard to exercise just a bit of willpower, someone else is responsible for making their lives easier. If you don't want to respond to a post, don't respond to it. It's that simple.
It doesn't work that way. There is a good reason to omit or hide inflammatory posts: everyone is drawn to respond to them and they derail all other discussions. It's a way of ending conversations by making them all about you.
That's why moderation is so important. It gives a chance for other voices - besides the loud, rude, and persistent - to be heard. And an ignore function is a form of community moderation. Does it bother you, for example, that we can ignore people in zone chat? Ignore in the forums is the same thing.
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jelliedsoup wrote: »If someone wants to ignore you or me that's their choice. Don't see why anyone but a troll would think otherwise.
Exactly. There is no downside to the /ignore feature.
However, some people would no longer get to play their silly games of taunting others.5 -
nerevarine1138 wrote: »
To a degree, I agree with you, and I "ignore them" by trying to bite my tongue (or should that be selotape my typing fingers together) and not respond, but where it is hard is when a genuinely useful discussion is hijacked by a post for one or a few individuals. If there was an ignore feature, I am pretty sure this would decrease, as the people who maybe cannot help responding to said troll, would no longer see the post in the first place if he ignored the person once, and so threads would (hopefully, he says naively) become a less vitriolic placenerevarine1138 wrote: »Everyone comes in with their own built-in ignore feature. If you choose not to use it, that's on you.
See, that's the issue.
People think that because it's hard to exercise just a bit of willpower, someone else is responsible for making their lives easier. If you don't want to respond to a post, don't respond to it. It's that simple.
It doesn't work that way. There is a good reason to omit or hide inflammatory posts: everyone is drawn to respond to them and they derail all other discussions. It's a way of ending conversations by making them all about you.
That's why moderation is so important. It gives a chance for other voices - besides the loud, rude, and persistent - to be heard. And an ignore function is a form of community moderation. Does it bother you, for example, that we can ignore people in zone chat? Ignore in the forums is the same thing.
I actually do moderate on a very, large gaming site. We have the ignore feature on our forums and we as moderators, often encourage it's use. Not every post breaks the ToS of the site but still will rile folks up. Sometimes it is easier to not see it. So click that switch.
I don't see it as a case of lack of will. I mean really? Sometimes its the little things in life that make it better.
And for the record...the folks that make/moderate these forums don't have much if anything to do with game development. All a different pot on the budget spreadsheet.Edited by kassandratheclericb14_ESO on 3 July 2014 23:273 -
Elencha✭✭✭@LrdRahvinb14a_ESO To move this back on topic, I propose a balefire button!
@neverarineb14_ESO It isn't a matter of whether Zeni is responsible for making our lives easier. It's a request, like many others on this forum, virtually none of which request things which is the responsibility of Zeni to provide. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to have, though.
@kassandratheclericb14_ESO Erm... Yeah. I think I did. Sorry about that. My point stands, but pointed elsewhere.
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@kassandratheclericb14_ESO Erm... Yeah. I think I did. Sorry about that. My point stands, but pointed elsewhere.
I will duck so that your point can point to that direction.
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Daddybigtime✭✭I guess it would be scary for someone to simply stop acknowledging your existence. I mean no matter how important a point you were trying to make no one would even know you wrote it. You'd simply be a ghost that haunted the forums. You couldn't agree or disagree. You couldn't make a great joke. You couldn't even troll. I could see why someone would rather not have an ignore button. *shivers*
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circilion✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
To a degree, I agree with you, and I "ignore them" by trying to bite my tongue (or should that be selotape my typing fingers together) and not respond, but where it is hard is when a genuinely useful discussion is hijacked by a post for one or a few individuals. If there was an ignore feature, I am pretty sure this would decrease, as the people who maybe cannot help responding to said troll, would no longer see the post in the first place if he ignored the person once, and so threads would (hopefully, he says naively) become a less vitriolic placenerevarine1138 wrote: »Everyone comes in with their own built-in ignore feature. If you choose not to use it, that's on you.
See, that's the issue.
People think that because it's hard to exercise just a bit of willpower, someone else is responsible for making their lives easier. If you don't want to respond to a post, don't respond to it. It's that simple.
No I agree with Nere. If you want a less toxic productive forum the ignore feature is a must. Justifiably expecting people to excessive willpower is a dream haha.
That being said, I still stand against the ignore function. Productive forums that are conducive to good feelings and serious discussions about gameplay just sound like far less fun.
But I'm a terrible person. 
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LrdRahvin✭✭✭✭✭Borked post up gonna try again below
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LrdRahvin✭✭✭✭✭
But I'm a terrible person.
There's a support group I go to for that...pm me and I'll send you the details
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Tamanous✭✭✭✭✭This is a standard feature on many forums ... but look at all the contentious replies. lol
People just live to be pissed off today it seems.2 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daddybigtime wrote: »I guess it would be scary for someone to simply stop acknowledging your existence. I mean no matter how important a point you were trying to make no one would even know you wrote it. You'd simply be a ghost that haunted the forums. You couldn't agree or disagree. You couldn't make a great joke. You couldn't even troll. I could see why someone would rather not have an ignore button. *shivers*
The only way you personally would be ignored is if a person finds you so irritating, they never want to see you again.
It's not like I can hit /ignore on you and nobody can ever see you again, it would just be me that could not see you.5 -
circilion✭✭✭LrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »
Thank goodness. Its good to know that I'm not alone in this!! what the name of the group? "Forum Trolls Anon"?
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AngryWolf✭✭✭What are you talking about. I'm ignoring you right now! LOL..just kidding, but if there was a way for me to block all those annoying polls...I'd pay an extra $5.00/mo for that!!!3 -
Elencha✭✭✭
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. I want to buy one, too.LrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »
Genius!!!!
/bow
@circilion No, I think it's called "Choose Not To Be Chosen". I hear Lanfear is responsible for bringing cookies...
Also, I'd totally get behind a subsection for polls.1 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackwidow wrote: »Seems to me that would resolve most of the hostility.
Any chance that could be implemented?
Edit: Wow, I should have known even this would be taken the wrong way.
I want to ignore a poster with /ignore.
I'm all for it but how would it work on a forum? For example a thread that you have posted in has 2 responses from a player you have on ignore, to you that thread would read funny as it would be missing those 2 comments (if they worked it that way). Or take it another way, you have XYZ on ignore and they post a new thread, on your screen it doesn't show up and when someone links you to it (maybe it became really popular) it links to a blank page?
Just trying to wrap my head around how they would make it function. A Disagree button would be my recommended first step because I'd wager right now most use LOL as the response that they don't like what you said. Sometimes I want to hit LOL because it's dang funny what the poster wrote.2 -
circilion✭✭✭
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. I want to buy one, too.LrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »
Genius!!!!
/bow
@circilion No, I think it's called "Choose Not To Be Chosen". I hear Lanfear is responsible for bringing cookies...
Also, I'd totally get behind a subsection for polls.
Great, I'll bring the booze then. I think getting over a trolling addiction can be crutched with an alcohol problem.
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Elencha✭✭✭@DeLindsay I think it would show up with posts from ignored users hidden but showable on demand. A thread started by such a poster, (I'd assume), would show up the same way.0
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Armianlee✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »Seems to me that would resolve most of the hostility.
Any chance that could be implemented?
Edit: Wow, I should have known even this would be taken the wrong way.
I want to ignore a poster with /ignore.
I'm all for it but how would it work on a forum? For example a thread that you have posted in has 2 responses from a player you have on ignore, to you that thread would read funny as it would be missing those 2 comments (if they worked it that way). Or take it another way, you have XYZ on ignore and they post a new thread, on your screen it doesn't show up and when someone links you to it (maybe it became really popular) it links to a blank page?
Just trying to wrap my head around how they would make it function. A Disagree button would be my recommended first step because I'd wager right now most use LOL as the response that they don't like what you said. Sometimes I want to hit LOL because it's dang funny what the poster wrote.
Like a lot of other forums that have an ignore/bury/votedown feature, you'd more than likely have the option of exposing the ignored persons posts if you wanted to.Basic circle of complaints on ESO Forums:
1) Users: Fix game/class/bug
2) Zenimax Online: Brings servers down and fixes issues and deploys patches.
3) Users: OMG SERVERS ARE DOWN!!!!!
4) Zenimax Online: Brings servers back up!
5) See 1)
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Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭Hears_Bright_Colors wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Always love it when fascists call for restrictions on others thoughts. Who made you thought police?
If I read you correctly, you're cleverly demonstrating the need of this ignore feature, right?
^^This
While most people try to post constructive criticism, there are a few who have nothing better to do than to try to force their misery on others.1 -
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✭✭Daddybigtime wrote: »I guess it would be scary for someone to simply stop acknowledging your existence. I mean no matter how important a point you were trying to make no one would even know you wrote it. You'd simply be a ghost that haunted the forums. You couldn't agree or disagree. You couldn't make a great joke. You couldn't even troll. I could see why someone would rather not have an ignore button. *shivers*
You do understand that you'd only be invisible to the ppl who pushed the button, right?
And that presumibly they'd only push the button if you said stuff contrary to their views often enough that it's either push the button, or flame you, right?
Just asking....The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.1 -
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✭✭✭This one thinks it would be very confusing to follow a conversation if half of what is said is ignored.Edited by Tabbycat on 4 July 2014 01:41Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Dusty5✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Always love it when fascists call for restrictions on others thoughts. Who made you thought police?
Talking about forums and mmo's here..uhmm you dropped your hammer and syckle1 -
Gwarok✭✭✭Instead of ignoring individuals, how about a drop down feature beside each thread to hide/ignore the thread?
(edit):probably already mentioned...
@ZOS threads like Patch notes/Announcements (in French/ German/English) have a "dismiss feature". That's all that would be needed to be implemented, and much appreciated.
Especially /DERP Polls!Edited by Gwarok on 4 July 2014 02:02"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade
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(Juliet):
...it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man.
O, be some other name!
What's in a name?
That which we call a rose?
By any other name would smell as sweet.
Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
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