Interview with Paul Sage

Cogo · June 2014

circilion wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

wow, I assume that you got 5 stars from a ton of insightful posts like this?..

Just ignore him. He is just whiny cause he cant play without using vastly overpowered character skills.

Munku · June 2014

<p>yes because you know they are going f2p soon because you *** are prognostic right? OH THAT'S right. You don't belong to Zos and you have clue but sides your wishful *** thinking.</p>

Ser Lobo · June 2014

Cogo wrote: »

circilion wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

wow, I assume that you got 5 stars from a ton of insightful posts like this?..

Just ignore him. He is just whiny cause he cant play without using vastly overpowered character skills.

Agreed. There's only three or four real hardcore, ZOS-hating posters left, and a whole new slew of new names that I haven't seen before. The haters are easy to identify, and are generally EXTREMELY butt hurt.

Coming from a guy who was unable to log in for 48 hours because his game had to be completely redownloaded and reinstalled (and we know how slow their downloader was working yesterday).

But after finally getting to log in and seeing those new lighting effects? Yeah ... getting a new computer tax time.

steveb16_ESO46 · June 2014

Worstluck wrote: »

You don't want to go to that new dungeon. It's bugged beyond belief regardless.

I think it's hard to get excited about anything with this game right now. We can talk about future content and what not, but the real question is, will it actually work? Based on what I've seen the past few months, I would say no.

Quite. They need to start walking the walk.

Ser Lobo · June 2014

Some days, I get customers at my job who are very snotty and rude, complaining about all kinds of things. Today's culture swears the customer is always right, because in the end the dollar is all that's important, superseding morals, fairness or even law.

But I live in a small town. I got a bit of disrespectful harumph from some older lady about how horrid my customer service skills were (I did not have an item she wanted). I smiled, apologized for the inconvenience, and offered what items I did have, but nothing helped.

A week later I got the ironic pleasure of getting to visit her job of 30 years (by her account) as a customer myself. Needless to say, she was still rude, disrespectful and completely incapable of getting me the small thing I needed. I smiled and went about my way.

A disrespectful person is disrespectful. An customer who will insult you, most likely would show no better form in their own job, because they don't respect the work given.

These are things I keep in mind when reading complaints here.

Loco_Mofo · June 2014

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

Is this the same justice system that's like a year away?

Hard to get excited about something so far away.

You obviously don't have a mortgage. Or pay child support.

Not sure I get where you're coming from.

What vague point are you trying to make I wonder...

Lalai · June 2014

Cogo wrote: »

I wonder if those who arnt happy with the game...is the sum of users on this forum, cause zonechat in daggerfall, where I am currently exploring, was anything but negative.

That's been my experience overall too. Yeah, there is sometimes some bashing of people/religion going on, but generally hasn't been any bashing of the game. On the contrary.. zone chat (at least for VR 4 stuff I'm in) is usually people helping each other out, selling stuff, or looking for groups. Going into the lower level zones I've seen quite a few "Wow, this game is actually good, I thought it was going to be horrible based on the reviews/press" type comments.. with lots of players chiming in to say they thought the same.

In guilds it can be mixed, but is generally a more constructive conversation than what I see in the forums. Everything isn't always rainbows, unicorns, and sunshine. We definitely discuss aspects of the game that could use improvement.. but it's much more respectful than what you find here, and the whole tone is drastically different from the "everything is negative, even articles saying there's no plan to change the sub model means the game is going F2P" type stuff you encounter on the forums.

Forums are where people go to complain though, so I can't really say I'm surprised.

Lunshea · June 2014

Nick_666 wrote: »

I hate this game, and zenimax for not giving me the game I want.
But im sick and twisted, so instead of just leaving and go play sommat else I might like, i'm just gonna go on the forums, and run the game down at every opportunity.

I'll make them regret not giving me an AAA game with absolutely no bugs whatsoever on release, and don't get me started on bugs after patches.
wtf are they doing ?
Im gonna throw my toys out the pram , im gonna take my ball home.
Im gonna post so much crap on the forums, no one else will want to play either.

I will get my way.

Yes, because it's really imortant to spend your life doing meaningful things, isn't it?

AngryNord · June 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

You're starting to sound like a broken record...

Ragnar_Lodbrok · June 2014

circilion wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

wow, I assume that you got 5 stars from a ton of insightful posts like this?..

Actually a ton of agrees, but quite a number of insights and awesomes as well

bugulu · June 2014

Probitas wrote: »

If this game goes free to play, the already low brow population in the game will explode, as will the population of gold spammers and gold sellers and farmers. I'd flee with my wallet if that happened.

Now now, F2P attracts players that loves to be entitled games without having to pay for it. I am sure the population will keep steady with the new influx of entitled "customers".

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

Polwight wrote: »

Where is the high level content our premiums are paying for?.

Craglorn and Crypt of Hearts are 'high level'.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

All I read is:
1. Region-free Craglorn
2. Justice system with PVP mode activated upon crime
3. City of Ash
4. More land
5. Player input affects development

Wonder what did he mean by Region-free. Does it mean all factions could finally quest together?

There were some odd typos/misquotes in that article. "Region-free Craglorn" is "Region Three Craglorn" which is the third area of Craglorn where The Serpent Trial will be.

So, yet MORE content exclusive to the trivially small minority of your players who can access it.

Really? How much are Entropy Rising paying you to do this?

Delte · June 2014

If this game goes free to play you will all be paying a lot more in each month than just the $
Let me see how we can monitise the game.

1) Skyshards you buy from the cash shop at $8 each.
2) Bank space and inventory space $10 for 10 slots.
3) Mounts sold at $5 each
4) New regions $12 each
5) PvP potions so you can be effective in pvp $10 for 5 or 10
6) Skill boost potions $5
7) Wayshrine use free once every 24 hours but after than will cost you $5 for 5 rune stones to use at the wayshrine.
8 ) Buying mount food at $5 each time you want to level it up.

I would rather keep the subscription model thanks. If this game goes free to play I will be leaving it, no matter how much I love the Elder Scrolls.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

1) silly price
2) somewhat too high a price
3) cheap
4) expensive if you're talking about additions such as Craglorn
5) anything that reduces PVP hopefully the point of non-existence is welcome to me
6) probably, LOTRO goes big on this
7) no, $1 per trip would never float
8 ) far too expensive

Have you played a game that went P2P->F2P? I've played 3 of them, they all went 'hybrid' rather than out-and-out F2P and in general prices weren't as high as you're suggesting: they're call MT-based business models, and $10 is 'micro' for bread-and-butter things.

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

Good, the justice system will only involve NPCs; the PvP element will only involve those who want to play cops and robbers. I hope thieves' guild questlines don't force us into this pvp though. I prefer pvp playpenned away from PvE play.

What is "region-free of Craglorn" mean?

Curragraigue · June 2014

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

Good, the justice system will only involve NPCs; the PvP element will only involve those who want to play cops and robbers. I hope thieves' guild questlines don't force us into this pvp though. I prefer pvp playpenned away from PvE play.

What is "region-free of Craglorn" mean?

Typo it is meant to be Region Three of Craglorn

Cogo · June 2014

We are getting a very cheap product with a subscription. You pay a monthly fee, thats it! Adding content included!

Free-to-play, is also a business model. Its not a nice company that gives you stuff for free. For me, Subscription isnt just cheap, its safety in what I spend time in.

This person works with Free-to-pay games. Worth a read and explains why ESO is the best model for both company and customers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1vsez2/why_im_happy_eso_is_not_f2p_by_someone_who_works/

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

Curragraigue wrote: »

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

Good, the justice system will only involve NPCs; the PvP element will only involve those who want to play cops and robbers. I hope thieves' guild questlines don't force us into this pvp though. I prefer pvp playpenned away from PvE play.

What is "region-free of Craglorn" mean?

Typo it is meant to be Region Three of Craglorn

Yeah, as a 'green' said, it's the next content being released exclusively for the trivially small minority who can access it, ie. Entropy Rising and their ilk, the third region of Craglorn.

Cogo · June 2014

Lalai wrote: »

That's been my experience overall too. Yeah, there is sometimes some bashing of people/religion going on, but generally hasn't been any bashing of the game. On the contrary.. zone chat (at least for VR 4 stuff I'm in) is usually people helping each other out, selling stuff, or looking for groups. Going into the lower level zones I've seen quite a few "Wow, this game is actually good, I thought it was going to be horrible based on the reviews/press" type comments.. with lots of players chiming in to say they thought the same.

In guilds it can be mixed, but is generally a more constructive conversation than what I see in the forums. Everything isn't always rainbows, unicorns, and sunshine. We definitely discuss aspects of the game that could use improvement.. but it's much more respectful than what you find here, and the whole tone is drastically different from the "everything is negative, even articles saying there's no plan to change the sub model means the game is going F2P" type stuff you encounter on the forums.

Forums are where people go to complain though, so I can't really say I'm surprised.

You are so correct. I am a MMO "vet". Did Muds, UO, Everquest from start and 7-8 years done. Loved it.

What MMOs had then that we do not have now....are communities. Full of drama, fact, ....you name it, you got it. BUT what it did not have....was trolls allowed to spread complete utter lies or bull****.

Sure, negative as well as positive. All over. But a comment like ESO going free to play, is simply untrue and unfounded at this point. Zeni has a 5 year plan. Most MMOs that went Free-to-play, had no plan left. OR like in SWTOR case, it was the plan from the start.

I know forums these days are usally users complaining, but it doesnt have to be.

Just look at what Zenimax is trying to do. Communicate with us. Asking us directly "Whats wrong, post here and we fix it".

We do need feedback of all kinds. I love the game cause I see through bugs. But the forum needs people who see broken things and can report them.

Even if a person is correct. Stating: ESO sucks, unsub! F2P!
Will simply be disregarded, since who knows why?

If they said:
"Cyrodiil have had lag problems for over a month now. Skills/balance put aside. What can be done to fix this lag problem, so we PvPers can play?"

Then Zenimax could respond, as they are doing "What is wrong, when do you get it. Give us detailed info, addons, etc"

If you WANT to help to make it work. That is one way to do it.

One thing that did come in this patch, was improved performance from the server side.

The idea that Zenimax somehow WANTS to annoy YOU, or not correct bugs is silly. Unless they have a game we can play, then they have no clients.
However. ESO is quite full of players who dont experience many problems.
But they do not come here.

Shadowhorn · June 2014

To be honest I sort of expected Craglorn to grow - 2 things pointed me this way. Skyshard achievement for Craglorn had a tooltip saying "Collect all skyshards in Lower Craglorn". Not Craglorn, but Lower Craglorn, meaning there is probably Upper Craglorn too? The second was simply the map of the zone - Zoom out to Tamriel map and look at Craglorn - all of the points of interest in Craglorn seem to be gathered in the northern part of the area ( wayshrines, dungeons, etc..) almost as if the southern part wasnt in game yet. Those were only my assumptions but taking into account the information from Paul Sage it may be actually correct.

steveb16_ESO46 · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

1) silly price
2) somewhat too high a price
3) cheap
4) expensive if you're talking about additions such as Craglorn
5) anything that reduces PVP hopefully the point of non-existence is welcome to me
6) probably, LOTRO goes big on this
7) no, $1 per trip would never float
8 ) far too expensive

Have you played a game that went P2P->F2P? I've played 3 of them, they all went 'hybrid' rather than out-and-out F2P and in general prices weren't as high as you're suggesting: they're call MT-based business models, and $10 is 'micro' for bread-and-butter things.

Agreed. The good FTP games encourage you to sub to get more features. Rift, SWTOR and STO do it quite well. There was never anything I simply HAD rather than WANTED to buy.

But games like LOTRO force you to buy essential stuff.

Elloa · June 2014

The Justice system seems very interesting!

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

Cogo wrote: »

We are getting a very cheap product with a subscription. You pay a monthly fee, thats it! Adding content included!

Free-to-play, is also a business model. Its not a nice company that gives you stuff for free. For me, Subscription isnt just cheap, its safety in what I spend time in.

This person works with Free-to-pay games. Worth a read and explains why ESO is the best model for both company and customers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1vsez2/why_im_happy_eso_is_not_f2p_by_someone_who_works/

And yes, I just saw someone the other day say that there's no expansions, really, planned. Just regular updates. I do hope they keep that philosophy, it seems rather fresh to me (in a good way, not in the face-slappin' way.)

And I agree with your value philosophy. I don't mind spending money, but I want to know I'm getting my money's worth. So far, I'm getting good entertainment value; I can see stuff coming down the road (and I just picked up God of Schemes on my highest character); fixes and such seem to come as they're ready, and as based on feedback. And, as far as I can see, I haven't been told what I should find fun by the co., as what has happened elsewhere.

The justice system doesn't seem to want to interfere with those who don't want to get into cops and robbers, so far; and it's kind of what I thought they might do. And I have lots of slots left on both servers, so if I want a cop and/or robber character, I can make one. And another interview confirmed that, yes, they are planning a mix of solo and group content for later patches.

It'll probably be a couple more months before I can even think of trying anything in Craglorn, though.

RazielSR · June 2014

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

And another interview confirmed that, yes, they are planning a mix of solo and group content for later patches.

Is that confirmed? When are those updates oing to happen? Which new lands will they add?

Cogo · June 2014

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

The justice system doesn't seem to want to interfere with those who don't want to get into cops and robbers, so far; and it's kind of what I thought they might do. And I have lots of slots left on both servers, so if I want a cop and/or robber character, I can make one. And another interview confirmed that, yes, they are planning a mix of solo and group content for later patches.

It'll probably be a couple more months before I can even think of trying anything in Craglorn, though.

Nicely put.

I'll jump around in Craglorn in a month or so I think. Mostly cause thats what I think would take our guild to get vet 6-8. And by then, just like now, enough fixes will be there, for us to not experience to much problems.

The justice system can be anything. I am holding my expectations until release, fix, balance and working order.

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

And another interview confirmed that, yes, they are planning a mix of solo and group content for later patches.

Is that confirmed? When are those updates oing to happen? Which new lands will they add?

They weren't specific, it was from the latest Ask Us Anything. I just followed a link from some discussion in this forum. But they did say that more solo content was in the works for the future, they were just fleshing out the group stuff first. Which, even as a mostly solo kind of person, makes sense; those who do like to group were kind of hurting, with 1-50 phasing issues (those been fixed yet?)

RazielSR · June 2014

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

And another interview confirmed that, yes, they are planning a mix of solo and group content for later patches.

Is that confirmed? When are those updates oing to happen? Which new lands will they add?

They weren't specific, it was from the latest Ask Us Anything. I just followed a link from some discussion in this forum. But they did say that more solo content was in the works for the future, they were just fleshing out the group stuff first. Which, even as a mostly solo kind of person, makes sense; those who do like to group were kind of hurting, with 1-50 phasing issues (those been fixed yet?)

I hope the game will have a lot more solo/group content in the future. I wanna see more of the whole Tamriel.

Morticielle · June 2014

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

W
As for the subscription model, I do not see why all these fuss about.

There are 17 (UO), 13 (DAOC), 11 (EVE), 9 (WOW) year old games still with P2P model.

All that talk about TESO possibly going F2P is not really about which subscription model is profitable, it's in fact a discussion if TESO is failing as a game, because for many people (not me) nowadays "going F2P" is a bad sign for the future of a game.

I judge a game not by the subscription model, but by two different points: First, how they manage to debug the game and second, how they balance it. And TESO is not doing so well on both points. With every patch they introduce more bugs than they fix and while trying to balance the classes and skill lines they often go too far.

ub17_ESO · June 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

circilion wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I like how he avoided all the serious questions. It just tells me two things:
1. It IS going f2p
2. They are going to cancel console ports.

wow, I assume that you got 5 stars from a ton of insightful posts like this?..

Actually a ton of agrees, but quite a number of insights and awesomes as well

LoL...Ragnar you have more comments than agrees! I guess if you throw enough darts eventually you hit the board!

If you dislike this game as much as your comments suggest, then perhaps you should quit. Then stop spending your time in the forums of a game you despise.