Terrain exploit offenders

Tintinabula · June 2014

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Aimelin · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Not rly? as you can attack those people back with siege & skills if they come out of hiding

not my fault you died & werent able to figure out to aim & use skills while people were on the edges able to take dmg

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Wait, what's so important about this gate again?

Aimelin · June 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Wait, what's so important about this gate again?

people got up to the very top of it, set up fwcs to respawn & sieged ppl and kept them busy at the gate for awhile, the OP died somewhere i guess

Tintinabula · June 2014

I killed plenty multiple times and sure I died..not the point of this post. I am sick and tired of players being given a free pass when they find glitches and abuse them.

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

Aimelin wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Wait, what's so important about this gate again?

people got up to the very top of it, set up fwcs to respawn & sieged ppl and kept them busy at the gate for awhile, the OP died somewhere i guess

were people trapped in the vicinity of this gate for some reason?

Aimelin · June 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

The ppl who I saw up there and they know who they are..exploited to get up there.You found a terrain glitch that was only accessible via your skill.

So its up to us..(your victims) to spend hours searching for that bugged terrain while you rain down fiery hell on us from above?

Am i getting this straight?

Wait, what's so important about this gate again?

people got up to the very top of it, set up fwcs to respawn & sieged ppl and kept them busy at the gate for awhile, the OP died somewhere i guess

were people trapped in the vicinity of this gate for some reason?

no someone got up there & put up a fwc, then ppl spawned on it.

Tintinabula wrote: »

I killed plenty multiple times and sure I died..not the point of this post. I am sick and tired of players being given a free pass when they find glitches and abuse them.

even if it is a glitch and its deemed an exploit, they will fix it, abuse it? they can die, not like the time where vamp emps didnt die caus they spammed batswarm every .5 Secs

Lord_Draevan · June 2014

Whether it's an exploit or not is irrelevant, it's getting fixed.

"ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote:
We acknowledge that the terrain issue is a bug that we need to fix, and are working on doing so as soon as possible."

And

"ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote:
We're working on getting those teleport/kill zones active again gang. There will be more information on when they go up as soon as we can get it to you

"

Aimelin · June 2014

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Whether it's an exploit or not is irrelevant, it's getting fixed.

"ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote:
We acknowledge that the terrain issue is a bug that we need to fix, and are working on doing so as soon as possible."

And

"ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote:
We're working on getting those teleport/kill zones active again gang. There will be more information on when they go up as soon as we can get it to you "

oh my god, they are talking about the starter zones exploit / bug thing, we are talking about the milegate, read pls

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

so no one forced anyone to stay near the gate and get farmed, but people did anyway... got it.

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Lord_Draevan · June 2014

Aimelin wrote: »

oh my god, they are talking about the starter zones exploit / bug thing, we are talking about the milegate, read pls

Milegates are considered a terrain issue as well.

SirAndy · June 2014

I'm glad to see that good old "Mountain Goating" is still alive in this game.

During my time on the PTS, i reported many, many, many places where one could exploit holes in the invisible terrain barriers and get to places that weren't intended.

As long as someone reported it to ZOS, let them have their moment ...
;-)

Tintinabula · June 2014

Halr you like being difficult. They were at pass where ppl travel..it was either try to get rid of them or allow them to gank and farm unjust AP because of their exploited terrain discovery.
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Bramir · June 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

This is why this game is failing so hard, you have 3/4's of the posters in this thread arguing for cheating.

No it is more that banning people over it is pointless. Did they ban over vamp spam? Caltrops? This game's PvP is one exploit after another.

Just be thankful the campaign is over.

They should be banned, its a big difference between a broken skill everyone can do, versus breaking into areas you cant get into because you found a glitch.

OK,

let's also ban DKs soloing trials

let's ban emp traders

let's ban all day 1 vamps

let's ban anyone who used the wolves in crow's wood

let's ban anom/bala and dc farmers

let's ban people who used the hireling bags before patch

let's ban anyone who bash spammed

let's ban oil party farmers

let's ban caltrop and merc users

I'm getting tired of typing here, I think at this point we've eliminated about 95% of the subscriber base though.

Want to bet that it is the same 5% doing the exploiting for the most part?

Fear of banning people who exploit because they need their $15/month is stupid and counterproductive, especially when it applies to direct competition like PvP. It destroys the legitimacy of the endgame for a large population of players to avoid punishing a small minority of players that like to cheat. Competitions have rules. When you get caught breaking them, you get punished or the competition itself suffers. Zenimax cannot have it both ways.

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

Halr you like being difficult. They were at pass where ppl travel..it was either try to get rid of them or allow them to gank and farm unjust AP because of their exploited terrain discovery.

I do IRL, but video games... ehh...

I don't find this to be as 'game breaking' as spawn camping. Not even in the same solar system.

But we have disagreed about such things in the past (same with scroll farming). Shrug.

The worst you can do to an AP farm is not die to them, and warn others to leave it be. Wasting AP to set up siege and being bored is an effective deterrent.

quakedawg_ESO · June 2014

I think a group hug is in order! Why can't we just all get along

driosketch · June 2014

Aimelin wrote: »

no someone got up there & put up a fwc, then ppl spawned on it.

This is a tangent but how are people getting forward camps set up in these places? I remember having trouble finding valid flat ground between the keep and outpost. (And that's before you consider the chance of the camp being bugged.)

FENGRUSH · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

There is INDEED a way I know what the devs want. You see, I alphad this game..I discovered many terrain exploits and reported them and they were rectified.

Maybe you should have reported forward camp bugs.

leewells · June 2014

Straight from the EULA:

C. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;

D. exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for any commercial purpose (including without limitation renting, leasing or licensing the Game to others), including without limitation (a) for gathering virtual currency, items or resources for sale outside the Game; or (b) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling;

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

Bramir wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

This is why this game is failing so hard, you have 3/4's of the posters in this thread arguing for cheating.

No it is more that banning people over it is pointless. Did they ban over vamp spam? Caltrops? This game's PvP is one exploit after another.

Just be thankful the campaign is over.

They should be banned, its a big difference between a broken skill everyone can do, versus breaking into areas you cant get into because you found a glitch.

OK,

let's also ban DKs soloing trials

let's ban emp traders

let's ban all day 1 vamps

let's ban anyone who used the wolves in crow's wood

let's ban anom/bala and dc farmers

let's ban people who used the hireling bags before patch

let's ban anyone who bash spammed

let's ban oil party farmers

let's ban caltrop and merc users

I'm getting tired of typing here, I think at this point we've eliminated about 95% of the subscriber base though.

Want to bet that it is the same 5% doing the exploiting for the most part?

Fear of banning people who exploit because they need their $15/month is stupid and counterproductive, especially when it applies to direct competition like PvP. It destroys the legitimacy of the endgame for a large population of players to avoid punishing a small minority of players that like to cheat. Competitions have rules. When you get caught breaking them, you get punished or the competition itself suffers. Zenimax cannot have it both ways.

You would have me believe that you or someone you know have not done A SINGLE THING ON THAT LIST??

Please.

Lefty_Lucy · June 2014

So.. I just went to that gate and spent 10 minutes looking around and I found how to get up on that wall. There aren't invisible walls there. I got there just by jumping onto the ledge.

Not an exploit.

Also you can still attack the people who are up on that wall, so this whole post doesn't make any sense to me. Pretty sure OP got rolled and assumed it was an exploit because he couldn't figure out how to jump up there.

Tintinabula · June 2014

Uhm Lefty I killed you like three times and you killed me once..who got rolled?

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Lefty_Lucy · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

Uhm Lefty I killed you like three times and you killed me once..who got rolled?...again find another game to cheat in..you're pathetic

Hahaha; like I said all you have to do is jump up there. It's not a cheat. Just go jump on the ledges and calm down.

Also, saying "you" killed me makes me laugh, because my only deaths were those that involved 10+ people mauling me.

So, 1v1?

Tintinabula · June 2014

well same goes here.

..maybe I should have said we killed you..but I died once..you used that FC quite a bit..so..it's not about "getting rolled". Cant disregard ethics while blaming it on someones pride in this instance.

scorpo46b16_ESO · June 2014

This the gate by chalman? if it is you get up there by knowing where the invisble walls are on the NE side of the gate and with a mount or mobility skill jumping form hill to hill expect more and more of these ways around invisible walls to be found out now that you can just /stuck

Lefty_Lucy · June 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

well same goes here. ..maybe I should have said we killed you..but I died once..you used that FC quite a bit..so..it's not about "getting rolled". Cant disregard ethics while blaming it on someones pride in this instance.

So.. no 1v1?

Tintinabula · June 2014

I wouldn't trust you to a "fair" 1v1 fight if it were ZOS approved. And stop messaging me in game. Its very stalker ish. o.O

Lefty_Lucy · June 2014

Well that was a really long way of saying "no".

Edit: typo

Soloeus · June 2014

Moral of thread:

EP is cheated by DC and AD exploiting terrains to place forward camps in a spot where they shouldn't be able to. EP poster immediately REPORTS it and goes to forum.

Cyberbullies attack OP relentlessly to make the thread toxic so it gets buried.

Why is this behavior tolerated?

ZOS_CarolusS · June 2014

Greetings everyone,
thank you for your feedback regarding this exploit. We are already working on a fix and we will update you on the progress in this thread:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

ALLIANCE WAR
Forward Camps: We are tracking several separate issues with Forward Camps. These include disappearing range indicators, Forward Camps being removed from the map prematurely, or not visible on the map at all.
STATUS: Currently testing fixes for all issues to be released in a future patch

We are now closing this thread, as we do not allow the posting of exploits on the forums. Should you feel, that a user is using one, report him InGame immediatly and we will thoroughly investigate.