Anyone else just /boggle

bitaken · June 2014

At the list of Alliance war fixes in 1.2.3:

Alliance War
General

Keep Archers now receive upgraded damage abilities via the Keep upgrades.
New Daily Quests have been added for killing enemy classes. These can be found at the bounty boards.
Fixed an issue where getting killed while in Cyrodiil could cause you to become de-synced from your body.
The Fort Aleswell gatehouse door will now properly gain more health when it receives wood upgrades.
Celarus, the two week campaign, will now properly reward members of the Daggerfall Covenant when they place first at the end of the campaign.

My biggest issues with the Alliance map have nothing to do with the fort Aleswell gatehouse door or the Keep archers - who already can rip your backside off if not paying attention - or having new fun daily quests in Cyro...but they are simply:

1) Forward Camps still flaky as all let out.
2) Repaired Postern walls, and resource towers become unusable as door - almost always.
3) Repairing a wall while it gets repaired to full by someone else...or gets hit by siege while you are repairing it...and you have to log off to be able to repair walls again.

Why are these things not in the list? Have we not complained enough about these issues for them to be addressed?

Forward Camps still are being placed somewhere enemy can burn them so that we can get another one up because they bug out after a certain amount of time and are unusable. Occasionally....you can relog and find that the camps are then usable.

Door bugs have cause more problems than I can count when engaging outside the walls...then retreating inside after a successful push.

These are the problems we want fixed. IDC!!!! about the darn archer guards or more daily quests...fix these problems PLEASE!!!

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2014

Agreed. The biggest disappointment of this patch is all the PVP fixes being pushed to 1.3.

galiumb16_ESO · June 2014

How far away is 1.3, have they said?

ESeregon · June 2014

Usual reply to such questions is "Soon.".... many of us know what that means...

madangrypally · June 2014

galiumb16_ESO wrote: »

How far away is 1.3, have they said?

Think i seen somewhere near the very end of July.

Ifthir_ESO · June 2014

FWIW Typically what is released is stuff that was being worked on a month+ ago.

Leovolao · June 2014

you forget the combat bug (combat state never leaving and keyboard not responding), ultimates random resets to 0, siege bug, CC break bug, not being able to get out of stun+root, map and compass bug, game crashes when group is too big, random teleport when repairing a wall, etc, etc.

Honored mention: the other day I saw a sorc with a moving negate magic ultimate on him.

crowfl56 · June 2014

PVP is pretty much broken. It was fun until the level racer's and exploiter's ruined it.
PVP needed battle zones, per level's.
10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, Vet 1 - Vet 11 then finally VR12.
Now I would have also allowed any lvl after 10 to enter any pvp zone. Reason you always need cannon fodder

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Derpsicles · June 2014

leonardo.contrerasviub17_ESO wrote: »

you forget the combat bug (combat state never leaving and keyboard not responding), ultimates random resets to 0, siege bug, CC break bug, not being able to get out of stun+root, map and compass bug, game crashes when group is too big, random teleport when repairing a wall, etc, etc.

Honored mention: the other day I saw a sorc with a moving negate magic ultimate on him.

MOST cases of this happening are purely visual only - are you CERTAIN that he had his negate moving around him - or just the visual spell effect

Dleatherus · June 2014

they are working on the forward camps

they are working on the bugged postern doors

they are working on the repair wall bug

these things are incredibly frustrating - the 'fix' cycle isn't simply a matter of realizing something is wrong, and redoing one line of code, though i wish it was

i do think that once a week it would be awesome to see an updated ongoing 'known issues - progress report relating to them' sticky thread

example (info is inaccurate and just for example purposes):

Caltrops - RESOLVED
05/06/2014 - acknowledge that caltrops and siege weapon damage are not working as intended
05/09/2014 - programmers report that the fix will take several weeks
05/16/2014 - no word yet - programmers still working on it
05/21/2014 - programmers have a working solution - will be applied next patch
05/24/2014 - patched and caltrops working as intended

Mercenary Mages - OPEN
05/21/24 - acknowledge that mercenaries are prone to bugging out and being 'invincible'
05/24/2014 - mercenary vendors removed - still ok to use mercenaries already purchased and in your inventory/bank
06/01/2014 - haven't found the problem yet

Forward camps, Postern Doors, Wall repairing etc etc

D.

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

And the emperor farm continues

frwinters_ESO · June 2014

Every patch the PvP fixes are secondary it seems. So many issues and no real attention. The next content update better be heavily PvP related with fixes, new campaigns, and hopefully some sort of content for Cyrodill.

FENGRUSH · June 2014

What strikes me most from that list is the archer guard buffs. Oh they werent annoying enough?

OK. Maybe you should pack more of them in there too. Give their volleys negate as well. And give menders reflect or something.

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2014

You could always give the tank guards Impulse.

Wideglide007 · June 2014

madangrypally wrote: »

galiumb16_ESO wrote: »

How far away is 1.3, have they said?

Think i seen somewhere near the very end of July.

you forgot to add the 2015

bitaken · June 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

What strikes me most from that list is the archer guard buffs. Oh they werent annoying enough?

OK. Maybe you should pack more of them in there too. Give their volleys negate as well. And give menders reflect or something.

And hey let's have them shoot thru the floor to the front flag!!!

And hey let's have them shoot from the top floor thru the grate at the front gate!!

And hey let's put one in each pack of guards around the outside of the keep!

But - forward camps? Man....that's gonna be some real bug fixing..nah.

FENGRUSH · June 2014

bitaken wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

What strikes me most from that list is the archer guard buffs. Oh they werent annoying enough?

OK. Maybe you should pack more of them in there too. Give their volleys negate as well. And give menders reflect or something.

And hey let's have them shoot thru the floor to the front flag!!!

And hey let's have them shoot from the top floor thru the grate at the front gate!!

And hey let's put one in each pack of guards around the outside of the keep!

But - forward camps? Man....that's gonna be some real bug fixing..nah.

Somehow they feel adding more PVE mob obstacles in Cyrodill is adding value to the PvP.

Its not.

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

What strikes me most from that list is the archer guard buffs. Oh they werent annoying enough?

OK. Maybe you should pack more of them in there too. Give their volleys negate as well. And give menders reflect or something.

And hey let's have them shoot thru the floor to the front flag!!!

And hey let's have them shoot from the top floor thru the grate at the front gate!!

And hey let's put one in each pack of guards around the outside of the keep!

But - forward camps? Man....that's gonna be some real bug fixing..nah.

Somehow they feel adding more PVE mob obstacles in Cyrodill is adding value to the PvP.

Its not.

They could add a 'Keep Lord" like DAoC had. A boss level mob that you had to defeat to take the keep. It could replace a flag, or heck, be in addition to the flags.

Have him drop sweet loot, too, like 'Shadhowhide Jack of Magicka'.

bitaken · June 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

What strikes me most from that list is the archer guard buffs. Oh they werent annoying enough?

OK. Maybe you should pack more of them in there too. Give their volleys negate as well. And give menders reflect or something.

And hey let's have them shoot thru the floor to the front flag!!!

And hey let's have them shoot from the top floor thru the grate at the front gate!!

And hey let's put one in each pack of guards around the outside of the keep!

But - forward camps? Man....that's gonna be some real bug fixing..nah.

Somehow they feel adding more PVE mob obstacles in Cyrodill is adding value to the PvP.

Its not.

They could add a 'Keep Lord" like DAoC had. A boss level mob that you had to defeat to take the keep. It could replace a flag, or heck, be in addition to the flags.

Have him drop sweet loot, too, like 'Shadhowhide Jack of Magicka'.

And here I thought the pack of mages was just about enough...

Phat lewts there though - might not want to add more farming to the game :P

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

You could always give the tank guards Impulse.

lol'd

They should definitely let those guards cast immovable, chains, talons, DK standard and reflective scale.

Their leashing mechanics should also be improved so as to reset to full after they kill each player.

In addition, guards have now acquired the ability to burn your siege weapons and repair walls.

Dleatherus · June 2014

this is the one that really made me /boggle

Bow (edited to keep just the important bits)

Long Shots: This passive ability’s bonus is now applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away.
Snipe: We also reduced the range for this ability from 40 meters to 35 meters.

ESOmath at its finest

makes the bow the only weapon with a passive that doesn't work outside of Cyrodiil i think? (you get the battle spirit extra distance buff for ranged abilities that should make 'Long Shots' BARELY feasible in Cyrodiil)

D.

Jaxom · June 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

You could always give the tank guards Impulse.

lol'd

They should definitely let those guards cast immovable, chains, talons, DK standard and reflective scale.

Their leashing mechanics should also be improved so as to reset to full after they kill each player.

In addition, guards have now acquired the ability to burn your siege weapons and repair walls.

Even better.

Guards now have the ability to cast Elusive Mist and

Dleatherus wrote: »

this is the one that really made me /boggle

Bow (edited to keep just the important bits)

Long Shots: This passive ability’s bonus is now applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away.
Snipe: We also reduced the range for this ability from 40 meters to 35 meters.

ESOmath at its finest

makes the bow the only weapon with a passive that doesn't work outside of Cyrodiil i think? (you get the battle spirit extra distance buff for ranged abilities that should make 'Long Shots' BARELY feasible in Cyrodiil)

D.

@Dleatherus, I read it that way at first as well. If you reread it, it says the ability bonus is NOW applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away. it doesnt say it's ONLY applied to enemies 40 meters away.

My guess is that in some situations with passives in Cyrodiil, the Long Shots bonus wasnt being applied to those attacks and they fixed it. At least, that's how I'm interpreting it.

Dleatherus · June 2014

Jaxom wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

You could always give the tank guards Impulse.

lol'd

They should definitely let those guards cast immovable, chains, talons, DK standard and reflective scale.

Their leashing mechanics should also be improved so as to reset to full after they kill each player.

In addition, guards have now acquired the ability to burn your siege weapons and repair walls.

Even better.

Guards now have the ability to cast Elusive Mist and

Dleatherus wrote: »

this is the one that really made me /boggle

Bow (edited to keep just the important bits)

Long Shots: This passive ability’s bonus is now applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away.
Snipe: We also reduced the range for this ability from 40 meters to 35 meters.

ESOmath at its finest

makes the bow the only weapon with a passive that doesn't work outside of Cyrodiil i think? (you get the battle spirit extra distance buff for ranged abilities that should make 'Long Shots' BARELY feasible in Cyrodiil)

D.

@Dleatherus, I read it that way at first as well. If you reread it, it says the ability bonus is NOW applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away. it doesnt say it's ONLY applied to enemies 40 meters away.

My guess is that in some situations with passives in Cyrodiil, the Long Shots bonus wasnt being applied to those attacks and they fixed it. At least, that's how I'm interpreting it.

hrmm - yup - i can see how i misinterpreted that - would have been clearer if it had said 'now also applied' or 'now only applied'

my bad

D.

Jaxom · June 2014

Dleatherus wrote: »

Jaxom wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

You could always give the tank guards Impulse.

lol'd

They should definitely let those guards cast immovable, chains, talons, DK standard and reflective scale.

Their leashing mechanics should also be improved so as to reset to full after they kill each player.

In addition, guards have now acquired the ability to burn your siege weapons and repair walls.

Even better.

Guards now have the ability to cast Elusive Mist and

Dleatherus wrote: »

this is the one that really made me /boggle

Bow (edited to keep just the important bits)

Long Shots: This passive ability’s bonus is now applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away.
Snipe: We also reduced the range for this ability from 40 meters to 35 meters.

ESOmath at its finest

makes the bow the only weapon with a passive that doesn't work outside of Cyrodiil i think? (you get the battle spirit extra distance buff for ranged abilities that should make 'Long Shots' BARELY feasible in Cyrodiil)

D.

@Dleatherus, I read it that way at first as well. If you reread it, it says the ability bonus is NOW applied to enemies greater than 40 meters away. it doesnt say it's ONLY applied to enemies 40 meters away.

My guess is that in some situations with passives in Cyrodiil, the Long Shots bonus wasnt being applied to those attacks and they fixed it. At least, that's how I'm interpreting it.

hrmm - yup - i can see how i misinterpreted that - would have been clearer if it had said 'now also applied' or 'now only applied'

my bad

D.

Agreed. Their patch notes are always so vague. I misread something similar about Armor enchants.

CaptainSilverbrow · June 2014

Derpsicles wrote: »

MOST cases of this happening are purely visual only - are you CERTAIN that he had his negate moving around him - or just the visual spell effect

This. I know how to the Rune Focus graphic to follow me around indefinitely, sans its effect, of course. BUT I WANT TO BELIEVE. Oh lawd, I wanna believe...

Tintinabula · June 2014

I would say they "can't" fix the bugs or its taking so long they seem to be ignoring the bugs(even though they're prolly not).

Being able to make cloth jerkins isn't gonna appease me when i cant get into 1 or 2 doors out of every keep that's in Cyrodiil while I pvp.