Is Stealth Broken?

Cagro

I was in Cyrodiil and saw another player from afar so I crouched and he did the same. I got the closed eye but I was seeing him sneaking from a huge distance away (probably like more than 60 yards away) and he saw me too because he attacked first. So even if you get the closed eye, other players can still see you?

Sihnfahl

The 'closed eye' is merely an indicator that an NPC is aware of your presence.

Not a player.

awkwarrd

There are many problems with stealth in Cyradiil.

Wait until you can't stealth or mount again for 20minutes because you are "locked-in-combat"

While stealthed, i have had players come running at me from far off and start spamming abilities randomly to find me, asif i was not stealthed before hand and just popped into it, like they saw me somehow, when i wasn't even moving.

The Detection Radius is broken.
The NPC Guard stealth Detection is broken.

maholi

Sihnfahl wrote: »

The 'closed eye' is merely an indicator that an NPC is aware of your presence.

Not a player.

Nope. It is also indicates a player can see you.

Sihnfahl

It's possible there's a slight lag between sight line and the indicator someone is 'invisible', allowing them to see you before the client update says 'this person is invisible'.

Stealth is something else. It's not WoW 'stealth for invisibility' or even Skyrim 'I'm sneaking and you can't see me in front of your face because I'm soooo good at hiding'. Stand out in the open with nothing blocking their view of you? They're going to see you.

LadyChaos

maholi wrote: »

Sihnfahl wrote: »

The 'closed eye' is merely an indicator that an NPC is aware of your presence.

Not a player.

Nope. It is also indicates a player can see you.

I use it when I'm stealth vs stealth hunting... when the eyeball cracks I'm getting warmer lol. It's also warned me more than once a st4ealther who also see's stealth was just about to pounce me... I tend to drop bubble or AoE immediately before they can stun-lock me.

Milky

LadyChaos wrote: »

maholi wrote: »

Sihnfahl wrote: »

The 'closed eye' is merely an indicator that an NPC is aware of your presence.

Not a player.

Nope. It is also indicates a player can see you.

I use it when I'm stealth vs stealth hunting... when the eyeball cracks I'm getting warmer lol. It's also warned me more than once a st4ealther who also see's stealth was just about to pounce me... I tend to drop bubble or AoE immediately before they can stun-lock me.

Just pop a detect potion, anything anywhere near the general area you are in will be detected, even if they cast NB stealth. It's like a 23meter range extension of your normal range.

Cydone

awkwarrd wrote: »

There are many problems with stealth in Cyradiil.

Wait until you can't stealth or mount again for 20minutes because you are "locked-in-combat"

While stealthed, i have had players come running at me from far off and start spamming abilities randomly to find me, asif i was not stealthed before hand and just popped into it, like they saw me somehow, when i wasn't even moving.

The Detection Radius is broken.
The NPC Guard stealth Detection is broken.

You do realize that if you open your inventory, while stealthed, other players can see you, right?? Same with opening your skill page, mail or anything like that. Also, if you have one of those pets, like the beta monkey, it doesn't stealth with you....same with Mages Light(I believe, I could be wrong). People can use that to track you down. Even with those things, yeah stealth is very bugged right now and definitely needs to be looked at by the devs. The same with boosting NB's power in their attacks and unbugging them.

ChampionSheWolf

Cydone wrote: »

You do realize that if you open your inventory, while stealthed, other players can see you, right?? Same with opening your skill page, mail or anything like that. Also, if you have one of those pets, like the beta monkey, it doesn't stealth with you....same with Mages Light(I believe, I could be wrong). People can use that to track you down. Even with those things, yeah stealth is very bugged right now and definitely needs to be looked at by the devs. The same with boosting NB's power in their attacks and unbugging them.

Stealth works fine to me, even in Cyrodiil. And I don't know why Nightblade attacks need a boost, but then again when people expect to be a WoW rogue and they aren't pwning a map 24/7 then tend to complain.

Cydone

cbrown15_ESO wrote: »

Cydone wrote: »

You do realize that if you open your inventory, while stealthed, other players can see you, right?? Same with opening your skill page, mail or anything like that. Also, if you have one of those pets, like the beta monkey, it doesn't stealth with you....same with Mages Light(I believe, I could be wrong). People can use that to track you down. Even with those things, yeah stealth is very bugged right now and definitely needs to be looked at by the devs. The same with boosting NB's power in their attacks and unbugging them.

Stealth works fine to me, even in Cyrodiil. And I don't know why Nightblade attacks need a boost, but then again when people expect to be a WoW rogue and they aren't pwning a map 24/7 then tend to complain.

I've never played WoW, so I wouldn't know what that expectation would be. And it was a comparative assertion that NB needs a boost. Compared to Templar, Sorcerer and Dragonknight, NB is underpowered. If you aren't a NB, you probably wouldn't see this as a necessity, but as a NB myself....and compared to the other classes viability and synergy with the weapon lines....yeah NB needs a boost.