Is the bat swarm ultimate cooldown abuse making you spend less time in Cyrodill?

pecheckler

Thanks for voting!

Sariias

No

It's not, but it's definitely not something that encourages me or something I look forward to... I just go in the hopes that I can find some battles in which no one is spamming bats.

CheesyDaedra

Somewhat

I haven't found one yet, but it surely seems to be boring

pecheckler

Yes

I wish the forum wasn't broken and would let me correct the title typo cause i'm goin' full blown OCD right now

Snit

Yes

I joined this game largely for the PvP. It's borderline untenable for non-vampires, and I expect ZOS to rectify this quickly.

The epidemic of pink-eye in Cyrodil needs a cure.

apterous

No

you can kill it if just keep your distance, stay close and it can get hard.

pecheckler

Yes

apterous wrote: »

you can kill it if just keep your distance, stay close and it can get hard.

Can't control other players. The ill-informed sheeple not keeping their distance...

Kypho

Yes

They should only be use some vamp abilities if they transform. Just like werewolves. And why do they have such ultimate, and ww just a loltransformation for 30sec. lolteso...

Gisgo

No

No, im loading on garlic.

Adwaenyth

No, it's increasing it because i'm the vampire slaughtering armies with super-low cost bat swarm

The problem is, all vampire abilities are somewhat broken (positive and negative)...

Some of the passives stop working when you die in PvP, cost reduction on two of the three active skills (mist form, bat swarm) resets everytime you zone until your vampire level changes, you don't even know which one was intended and which wasn't...

Libertine

Yes

it actually stopped me from going there alltogether as its pointless at the moment.

Alestair

Yes

Yeah, My guild and friends just gave up on cyrodiil for the time being..

AshTal

Yes

Yes, pretty much given up on cyrodil and if I am there and see a bat swarm in battle I just turn and leave and go play an alt in PvE.

Kypho

Yes

its not just the reduction. the health what it gives and the damage it does is a mess.

smokes

Yes

apterous wrote: »

you can kill it if just keep your distance, stay close and it can get hard.

can't target them - invis+batswarm = untargettable.

seriously, auriels bow last night, there was a guy batswarming at the keep wall for about 5 minutes, untargettable the whole time - yet he was able to farm kills of people on top of the wall whilst he stood at the bottom of the wall outside.

i was in range to shoot him with arrows, they didn't find a target. silver bolts, nothing to aim at, templar ranged abilities, again nothing to aim at.

if you can't target someone, whilst at the same time, they can kill an entire zerg army whilst self healing - something is broken.

i'd been thinking the dev's were being quiet on this one because there was a counter we just hadn't discovered yet - like turn undead, but from what i've heard, it's unreliable. i'll still test it this evening, but beyond that, i've thrown everything i've got at them - which was 99% AoE abilities, because i can't frickin target them.

Custos91

No

We managed to get enough coodination in the guild to *** the vamps off, normally they will only last for 20 sec, sorc negate and down^^

Kypho

Yes

Custos91 wrote: »

We managed to get enough coodination in the guild to *** the vamps off, normally they will only last for 20 sec, sorc negate and down^^

So. You need a sorcerer. Its normal to overcome a 1 button guy, teaming up with a sorcerer + some other guys. Maybe they should boost vamps so they can get invulnerable to negative magics? Pls TESO make it so!!! Rofl TESO

dexfmb16_ESO

Yes

Actually, because of that I stoped playing in Cyrodill.

Dudis

No

Nope, I don't zerg so it doesn't really affect me.

Inzababa

not me, but 50% of my guild yes...

We used to have half a raid (12 people) active every day when we had 20-30 members. Now we got 50 members and not more than 10 PVP active because all either quit the game for a while, or are PVEing until it gets fixed.

Censorious

No.
Because nothing will make me spend less time in Cyrodiil.
However, it needs to be fixed.

savak

Yes

Naturally it will affect how much people play. Once you get wiped 3-4 times in a game session by 2-3 vamps against your 20-30 man group (with VRs on your side) you realise how stupid it is. Then when you think it isn't fair... Why keep playing? Because what's happening now is people using scrolls to attract enemies and farm them in a batswarm vamp group....does anyone enjoy being farmed? Especially new players or pug pvpers?
If they don't hotfix this soon I'm expecting less activity in the campaigns.

reggielee

Somewhat

i voted somewhat, as I had already left due to all the inequalities in pvp from day one with exploited vet ranks in a day, in ramped gear and on fast mounts bought with gold from spammers and exploited duped gear upgrades. if i had stuck it out then this vamp glitch would have been the nail in the coffin.

tplink3r1

No

no, but it needs to be fixed.

beravinprb19_ESO

Yes

The fact remains that Campaigns are losing players left, right and centre. While I will never quit PvP regardless of how many issues it may have, or how bad those issues become, the lack of population and the imbalance of said populations is slowly pushing me away.

apterous

No

easy counter to that is, if you see that batswarm dude you retreat and put out a ninja squad on that one.

Eldrenath

Yes

Yes

As long as this goes on, I have little to no interest in PvP. The PvE is fun, so the vamps can have Cyrodil for now for all I care.

Thevenin

Yes

I'm PvEing like everyone else until this gets fixed.
My patience does have limits though, and if I find myself at VR10 having nothing to do I'll just call it a day.

rophez_ESO

Yes

My guild hasn't quit yet, but we are definitely enjoying the game less. The lack of response from ZOS is the worst part. If they are this slow to address a huge issue with the cornerstone of their end-game content, what does this say about them and their priorities?

LadyChaos

No

I hear the bats or I see the graphics, I use my ult on them and move away nuke from range... I do the same for DK ult. Not saying the under 100 ult cost is right, just it does not effect my ability to counter it, nor enjoy a battle, personally.

Syndy

No

No, I have faith that it will be fixed in time. Then the people abusing it can look for another exploit for us to make polls about.