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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Potential solutions for making the Emperorship more accessible.

  • Imperator_Clydus
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    Sad thing is, I told them so.

    For anyone who was on the closed beta PTS, you might remember my controversial and eventually locked thread titled "Stealing Emperor and Cheating the System."

    The post was about how a player intentionally exploited the point system and the campaign reset to jump a dramatic number of points in minutes and nab Emperorship from those who had actually earned it.

    ZOS assured us that they were paying attention to the feedback, but it went 100% ignored.

    Ah. I wasn't in PTS but I did hear of the issue and I believe I saw videos of the guy who stole the emperorship. I can somewhat understand ZOS' unwillingness to change the AP accumulation due to just having other priorities needing to be resolved before launch.

    That being said, the game is out now, and it's time they heavily reconsider some of their systems. AvA is clearly being exploited, not only through the emperorship, but also guesting, and transferring campaigns in general. There is a lot ZOS can do to improve conditions and they need to start acting.

    Hopefully as long as people continue to voice their opinions and ZOS actively sees threads such as this one, maybe it will get a discussion going in their office. I just hope they want AvA to work the way it's meant to just as much as we do.
    The First Daggerfall Emperor of Tamriel on Bloodthorn and Guild Leader of Shehai
  • Imperator_Clydus
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    Starshadw wrote: »
    I agree with some points here, and disagree with others.

    First and foremost, the Emperorship isn't supposed to be "accessible" to many. Emperors and past-Emperors are meant to be rare. I do not want to see every Tom, *** and Harry as "past Emperors." In fact, we have a serious issue right now with Emperor-farming, specifically because people want access to the Emperor skill line.

    So no, I do not want to see even 20% of the PvP population with the "past Emperor" tag.

    I would submit that there really should be more criteria than "who has the most AP?" when it comes to Emperorship. I'd much rather see someone crowned Emperor who goes out of their way to unite their faction on their campaign - meaning they don't run in a small, exclusive group but rather run in the larger groups, than I would someone who has the most AP. What would be very cool - though I doubt it's possible - would be some sort of pop-up that appeared when all the keeps were taken, that allowed all faction members online 2 minutes to place a vote for any one of the top 5 AP of their faction or something. This would mean that a high-AP player who was a jerk would be less likely to become Emperor than perhaps the #3 on the list who treated the players of his/her faction with respect and tried to be inclusive when it came to forming raids, etc.

    Well in fairness having a lot of emperors is actually in line with this time period in TES lore. The Interregnum is a period of great instability where there are a variety of emperors who claim the throne and are deposed. These are not all the same person either.

    I still want the rank and status itself to be rather exclusive, but it shouldn't only be available to a handful of players who farm AP and do not actually participate in AvA. Very few of the current or former emperors actually played the game the way it was intended.

    I agree that anyone who actually becomes an emperor should actually be a leader. This shouldn't be a solo player or a small group that doesn't communicate with the faction. They should go above and beyond the call of duty to help their alliance and truly make a difference.

    I would be against a voting system of any kind, however. Popularity votes are never accurate and it will always be the largest guilds or alliances that will determine who is emperor. That means they will most likely always vote their own person near the top of the leaderboard, or candidates would be forced to buy their support.

    I want whoever is emperor to actually be an emperor and lead their faction. That's why I believe making AP more objective-based and ZOS actually encouraging large groups rather than discouraging them would go a long way towards having proper emperors. Clearly, ZOS has a lot of work to do.
    Edited by Imperator_Clydus on 9 May 2014 15:16
    The First Daggerfall Emperor of Tamriel on Bloodthorn and Guild Leader of Shehai
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