How do I beat a DK/Vamp with Mist, Burning Talons, Green-dragon blood, and Banner?

bg22

Since I see that when ppl complain about these abilities that some may say are incredibly OP, I will not do that.

I will only ask for your "Pro-tip" advice.
How do I counter someone that can spam-root me, drop a AoE damage banner, heal himself for 40% of his health when he gets low, and use mist form somewhere in between?

I'm all ears. Thanks guys.

frozywozy

How do I kill someone spamming mist would be a good start here.

Drachenfier

How the hell is Dragon Blood considered OP? /boggle
It heals for 33% of missing health and costs a metric ton of magicka.

How the hell is Banner OP? even if you get hit with Dark Talons, one roll will take you out of the AoE of the banner ffs /boggle

bg22

Drachenfier wrote: »

How the hell is Dragon Blood considered OP? /boggle
It heals for 33% of missing health and costs a metric ton of magicka.

How the hell is Banner OP? even if you get hit with Dark Talons, one roll will take you out of the AoE of the banner ffs /boggle

Why did you comment on the thread if you just had stupid questions? I said a DK w/ all the above. Thanks for your idiocracy tho.

But anyway, yeah healing you instantly for 1000 hp? No biggy. lol And you can just spam your chain and pull um back in, then spam root again (Bc both of your CC's are spamable due to no immunity). By then they're outta stam or dead, and your skill has prevailed. But if you're not here to answer the original question, please take your leave.

bg22

Drachenfier wrote: »

if you're 'spamming chain pull, and spamming dark talons (LOL) you sure as hell aren't gonna be using dragon blood more than once, if that.

Because your original question is idiotic, for the reasons given.

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You're just to smart for your own good. If your spamming those 2 abilities, you wont need dragon blood bc your banner will take care of everything else. I'm not responding to you again tho... Your post are worthless.

Samuel_Starkweathernub19_ESO

What class do you play, and what's your character made up with?

cubansyrusb16_ESO

Standard of might.

This is the damage morph. We take 35% less damage while dealing 35% more damage, DoT of 113 fire damage every one second and you take 50% less healing.

The Standard alone if not a huge worry, when you combo it with .....

Ransack and Unstable Flame the damage ramps up a huge amount, its best to move away as soon as possible even if you leave yourself with no stamina.
The key sign that the standard is coming is the DK will raide his hand up for about 1-2 seconds.

In all honesty you dont need to be a vampire to faceroll as a DK just timing, with the animation cancel....

heavy attack > ransack > bash >burning talons > light attack > unstable flame> bash > standard

This can happen so fast you have seconds to act before all dots are done and they face tank you.

Personally i always throw a poison arrow in for good measure before closing the gap, on another note dont worry about Green dragon blood the stamina regen and heal are pointless in pvp.

That said the other morph of it is extreme in PvP because you max out all defenses for 3 seconds which is alot of time in a 1vs1 and plenty of time to throw out the above combo.

SwampRaider

he jsut wants to know how to beat it. not a discussion on how this question is stupid.

I was fighting a VAMP DK earlier today. he woudl rush in, spam talons and standard...IF we roll dodged, he would spam them again and those that rely on stamina would die from not having stamina. Those of us that were lucky, wasted our magicka healing ourselves and then he would run away with mist form and we couldnt target him. 30 seconds later, he would come back and do the same thing.

Talons>Standard>Talons> Bash>Bash>Talons>Bash>Mist>Mist>mist>mist>Hide>hide>hide>Talons.Standard>Talons> Bash.Bash.

EVENTUALLY, we were able to kill him but we died quite a few times. Apparently stamina abilities can be spell reflected and those silver bolts and CC abilities were being reflected back at us.

VAMP DK's are now rampant within my guild. EVERYONE i know is rolling a vamp DK with 1h Shield+Resto staves

mhobbs003b14a_ESO

Always will be FoTM build but I has faith other builds will come to light and wreak the previous one

Also much faith in ESO to tweak and make anything under or over powered more balanced.

Baphomet

Well, the dragonknight part is easy. One cast of purge and you've negated the standard for you and your allies and you can laugh at the dragonknight for having wasted his ultimate.

Mistform is a bit more troublesome as it depends what abilities you have in your arsenal.

Hodorius

What about spamming Silver Bolts?

I heard there are many Edwards out there beeing immun against that stun but I never encountered one...

The only problem is Mist Form on EU server: if he spams Mist Form you will not be able to shoot at him inbetween because of the lag we have.
Otherwise run after him hitting that key like an idiot and hope you dont run out of stamina.

Drachenfier

bg22 wrote: »

Drachenfier wrote: »

How the hell is Dragon Blood considered OP? /boggle
It heals for 33% of missing health and costs a metric ton of magicka.

How the hell is Banner OP? even if you get hit with Dark Talons, one roll will take you out of the AoE of the banner ffs /boggle

Why did you comment on the thread if you just had stupid questions? I said a DK w/ all the above. Thanks for your idiocracy tho.

But anyway, yeah healing you instantly for 1000 hp? No biggy. lol And you can just spam your chain and pull um back in, then spam root again (Bc both of your CC's are spamable due to no immunity). By then they're outta stam or dead, and your skill has prevailed. But if you're not here to answer the original question, please take your leave.

This is just a massive troll post QQing about DKs.

oldkye

@drachenfier I have to agree a little you see these posts in ever mmo "how do I beat a guy who saved up his ultimate and perfectly timed a well thought out and calculated trap that I fell for hook, line, and sinker."

The answer is always the same lol you need to do something about him before you get to that point and if it's easy to get out of he'll re-roll as something else cause his goal is you "can't" get out of it lol.

WoW - "how do I get out of a rouge stunlocking me once I've already wasted my trinket"

FF11 - "how do I beat getting hit with a 2 hour ability when I've used mine?"

Age of Conan - "how do I beat a ranged guy jumping and rooting me when all my moves are close ranged?"

FF14 - "how do I kill someone when I'm alseep?"

Shadowbane - "how do I beat getting pulled into a group of 5 players"

Eve Online - "how do I warp when they tackle me and I can't out gun them?"

Aion - "how do I win in a fair fight when they do more damage then me?"

And not just MMO's i could give you quotes from ever game from dark souls to call of duty lol

Here's the real translation of the question "How can I win every fight and never lose to anything?"

Should be easier to reply to now lol.

cris13crossb16_ESO

Its amazing how someone makes a thread asking for tips rather than calling for sweeping nerfs and is flamed (by some).
I have also been having this problem, is that true that a purge will negate the banner? I though the area contained the damage rather than applying a DoT. If I am wrong that is a very good tip.

cris13crossb16_ESO

Also is there any way to break out of burning talons? It seems like the only CC I cant break myself free from

CrashBlack

Roll

oldkye

cris13crossb16_ESO wrote: »

Its amazing how someone makes a thread asking for tips rather than calling for sweeping nerfs and is flamed (by some).
I have also been having this problem, is that true that a purge will negate the banner? I though the area contained the damage rather than applying a DoT. If I am wrong that is a very good tip.

I don't think he was being flammed lol and they gave him both explanations and tips to which he asked many of them to leave among other things I won't quote.

That said too your second question roll works just fine to get out of it you just need enough stamina.

cris13crossb16_ESO

Thank you for this tips, I will try rolling from now on.

Xeniph

Rolling works, however Talons atm is bugged and it ignores CC immunity and can thus be spammed to keep you tied down. So while a roll will break you free, you will need to use a CC of some kind yourself to actually get distance, otherwise they can just root you again.

bg22

cris13crossb16_ESO wrote: »

Thank you for this tips, I will try rolling from now on.

The radius of talons is 8 meters, if you roll they just spam it again. As the game sits, there is no counter to talons unless you're a sorcerer, in which case you can safely teleport off into the sunset.

bg22

oldkye wrote: »

cris13crossb16_ESO wrote: »

Its amazing how someone makes a thread asking for tips rather than calling for sweeping nerfs and is flamed (by some).
I have also been having this problem, is that true that a purge will negate the banner? I though the area contained the damage rather than applying a DoT. If I am wrong that is a very good tip.

I don't think he was being flammed lol and they gave him both explanations and tips to which he asked many of them to leave among other things I won't quote.

That said too your second question roll works just fine to get out of it you just need enough stamina.

Oh, so I just roll? Why didn't I think of that...

Wait, what happens when they root me again because I haven't gained immunity from breaking the CC?

Jeddahwe

The only 'real' solution is for everyone to play DK Vamp.