DK root+ultimate spamming is pvp

Ragnar_Lodbrok

SirAndy wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

SirPuppingtonVonHat wrote: »

Balance patch is slated to come with Craglorn. We'll see where that takes us.

Source? Ive seen nothing that states this.

@Ragnar_Lodbrok Puppington is referring to the PTS patchnotes ...

Ah the one that buffed dark talons and didnt nerf anything? kind of proves things are working as intended.

nightow78

Some really awful players in this game that just stand in fire and call for nerfs.
Pro tip don't stand in the fire.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Wrong post.

Sihnfahl

Maverick827 wrote: »

I'm still waiting on an explanation as to how DKs, specifically, can spam ultimates.

The complaint isn't that DKs are unique in having the ultimate cost reduction; it's the combination of the Standard of Might's benefits on top of the vampiric benefits being a bit over the top for DK survivability AND offense.

Here's the combination. Emperor doubles ultimate gain while seated. Reduces ultimate cost by 5% all of the time, even for former emperors. Combat Frenzy passive means another 25 ultimate per kill. Akaviri Dragonguard reduces Ultimate cost by 20%...

Maverick827

Sihnfahl wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

I'm still waiting on an explanation as to how DKs, specifically, can spam ultimates.

The complaint isn't that DKs are unique in having the ultimate cost reduction; it's the combination of the Standard of Might's benefits on top of the vampiric benefits being a bit over the top for DK survivability AND offense.

Here's the combination. Emperor doubles ultimate gain while seated. Reduces ultimate cost by 5% all of the time, even for former emperors. Combat Frenzy passive means another 25 ultimate per kill. Akaviri Dragonguard reduces Ultimate cost by 20%...

So they should nerf DKs because of all of those things?

Sihnfahl

Maverick827 wrote: »

So they should nerf DKs because of all of those things?

Personally, I think not.

However, you did ask how it was possible to quickly accumulate Ultimate.

Ah, and I did forget something. Ritual Stone. Bonus healing.

Utherix

Maverick827 wrote: »

Sihnfahl wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

I'm still waiting on an explanation as to how DKs, specifically, can spam ultimates.

The complaint isn't that DKs are unique in having the ultimate cost reduction; it's the combination of the Standard of Might's benefits on top of the vampiric benefits being a bit over the top for DK survivability AND offense.

Here's the combination. Emperor doubles ultimate gain while seated. Reduces ultimate cost by 5% all of the time, even for former emperors. Combat Frenzy passive means another 25 ultimate per kill. Akaviri Dragonguard reduces Ultimate cost by 20%...

So they should nerf DKs because of all of those things?

They can nerf a bunch of things or they could simply put a cap on how much bonus healing, ultimate, etc. you can get. They may also consider reducing Ultimate generation from AoE's across the board.

Personally, I think a nerf bat on Vampire and Emperor is unavoidable. Battle Standard is so good there's no reason to use a different ultimate (in PvP). Dark Talons may also need adjustment due to CC mechanics favoring it.

Head.hunter

I've only seen one video where a dk spammed his ult because he was agroing huge mobs and getting points for it, but in pvp most banners are stationary and you can just walk around the aoe zone.

pecheckler

It is true that guilds are running pure DK tank vampire talons + standard builds. Breaking and becoming immune to CC DOES NOT break the root and prevent it. There is no escape.