Cyrodiil PVP: Emperors Exploiting Broken Abilities: FIX this ZOS!

bantad87

Cydone wrote: »

bantad87 wrote: »

To everyone saying he/she isn't exploiting: http://esohead.com/skills/32986-mist-form

This build relies on the fact that Mist Form is currently broken and is not preventing healing immunity; so this player, who knows that Mist Form is broken - is exploiting a bug in the game, which is against the terms of service. So actually, yes, he should be at least suspended, if not outright banned.

So, you're going off a guess that he/she KNOWS that it's broken?? So, everyone that has mist form, knows its current state, and therefore everyone using mist form should be suspended?? Cause, with the line of thought you just put forth, that is what should happen, right?? Assuming that someone knows something ISN'T grounds for a suspension.

Oh please, the skills own description states the player is immune to healing effects; that and the steps to abuse this exploit are not exactly straightforward. You're telling me the #1 ranked player doesn't read his skills and just happened to stumble across an exploit that requires 5+ collaborating effects? All centered on a skill that is supposed to prevent healing, but doesnt?

Let's drop the ***. This person is abusing an exploit, and he knows damn well he's doing it - all of which is against the ToS. I'm not saying ban everyone, but a player who is obviously exploiting, is using it to gain an obvious advantage, and clearly has no remorse doing so (as he's probably out there 12+ hours a day), all while being an obviously visible player? I say make an example of his ass; maybe it will discourage widespread abuse until they can patch it.

deathcoyrwb17_ESO

Exploit or not, this goes to show ZOS has one of the worst balancing in MMO history. It gets me wondering how they can nerf Templars continuously to the ground when the real issue of incredibly powerful and god-like potential for Dragon Knight and Sorcerer was hovering under their noses.

Honestly, I really pity Templar players, they're like framed scapegoats trialed for execution while the real culprits DK, Sorcs are free to roam around.

Kolur

Semel wrote: »

What you see in this video is the guy playing the current(now former) empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!!)
2) having a morphed to extremely powerful self-healing &damage vampiric ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form (75% damage reduction)
6) being an emperor

''It is totally broken mechanic exploiting all these 6 things combined (see above) to abuse ultimate vampire ability''

Please. tell me where the ''bug'' the ''glitch'' the exploit Is?
This is just a smart combination of Class, Armor and Skill choice.

ESO Is about setting up the ultimate build.
And until all the children In Cyrodiil stop crying and throwing a Tantrum cause they are physically and mentally unable to use their brains.
Then this will be the strongest build

I've fought and killed tons of Vampires b4...
wna know how?
Well first of all I didn't zerg into the *** heals..
No
When we meet vampires we spread out.
We use CC, and we use Fire and Fighters guild spells.
Here's a good combo I like to use.
Silver leash,
100% knockdown 5% 1 shot.
+ I can pull the enemy.
+ Now that's really fun to use If u got a friend with an a Oil pot.
It's that simple.

Another Is simply. 2-24+ guys. Will switch between spamming their Silver bolts.
While other spams Magicka based Fire dot, and Magicka CC.
This allows constant CC'ing forever until the Silver bolts and Fire dots kill the enemy.


Your problem right there was you only had what? 7 guys In group and like 4-5 on TS / Skype. (WHAT THE F*CK???)

When I go PvP. I bring EVERYONE from the guild, and then just pug randoms
And tell them to join TS <-- (Important). So we can actually organize.
If we meet vampires. We use a very simple Anti-Vampire tactic.
Specializing In, Silver bolt chain use (So Instead of spamming it. We use It so there Is always atleast 1 guy using It while others regain stamina.)
While u are regaining stam. others are using Silver Bolt. At these time u are on Magicka spam spree with CC, Healing reduction, and Heals & Buffs for us


Here's another thing. Emperor has 100% duration on everything.
So obviously she won't die. her 8 sec ''Greater protection'' buff.
That's now a 80 second buff. Along with other buffs.
Giving her, around 3-4K armor/Spell resist. That lasts forever

The Emperor Is meant to be a ''God of war'' As It was described.

I checked your build. It's completely wrong for Vampire slaying.
What about emperor slaying then xD
And b4 u *** me about ''being healer''
I'm a mainspec healer aswell. But when I weapon swap. I swap to a great build for wrecking Vampires and normal players.

Now, you're also lvl 34. Even If Nym-chan had been using Auto attacks and block only (No Emperor or Vampire stuff) She would have been able to take atleast a 1 v 3 Since u are all low level, and just a random zerg running around.

Do u know what we in Ebonheart pact call the Dominion? NPC's
You guys act just like NPC's. You run around randomly without any tactics.
And not to mention when we do look at u. We win instantly.

Wna know why Nym was alone over there? Cause we send her out alone to you guys while we go 3 guilds and all random zergs aswell to fight the Daggerfall.

You in the Dominion are so pathetic that we can leave our Emperor and those randoms that don't listen to deal with you.

Wna know why you haven't been attacked that much? cause there's not a single 1 of u guys that does anything smart In Dominion. like this 1 time. Nikel, Roe, Alessia, Faregyl. You lost all those keeps and Outpost. Why? Cause all of you were taking Bleakers outpost. Great trade 1 Outpost Instead of 50% of what you owned. Then you lost 2 scrolls and couldn't even hold Bleakers for 10 minutes.

Not to mention how badly both the Daggerfall and Dominion play.
We are wrecking you with almost 30K lead In points.


''PS Btw emperors keep ultimate cost reduction even after they are no longer emperors.
Yea well they do. but wait what? No. Emperors don't have ANY reduction. They do however have 200% Ultimate gains. (Did u even study ONE thing b4 writing this 99.99% *** post?)
And yes, they do keep the Ultimate gains. But Instead of 200% It's 4%
woow so great! Now I get my Ultimate back up 1 second faster!!! Amaziiing


Here's another thing I forgot to add in. '' 4 and even 0!!!'' In the cost of Ultimate.
No
It's 40.
And goes to 30 for DK / Sorc.
And btw. In order for Vampire to work. You need to first! feed, You have to feed everytime you go on a loading screen. If u don't feed, It goes back to 150-200 Cost.
So Everytime u go on loading screen u have to find a human NPC. Feed, and wait 1.5 to 3.5 hours to get to Stage 4 for 30-40 Ultimate cost

So, All of you're *** above Is just meaningless crying.
This will not be nerfed. However, Zenimax might just tell you that the Fighters guild has tons upon tons of spells that 1 shot Vampires. Not to mention with a bit of teamwork You can harass vampires to death easily with a few easy CC chains.

The guys that are actually crying. I bet they didn't even try using a CC Chain...
As a veteran PvP'er from WoW I've done well over 5000 Arenas.
And I know how to set up a proper CC chain to keep my enemies down for long enough to wipe em out.

sleepspasmnub18_ESO

So every person that uses a skill that doesn't do what its supposed to do due to developer error is now exploiting that skill? Is it an exploit if the skill sucks because of it or does it only count if its an improvement?

Sykotik_ESO

Clearly kolur has some personal issues with the dominion lol.

Cydone

Kolur wrote: »

Semel wrote: »

What you see in this video is the guy playing the current(now former) empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!!)
2) having a morphed to extremely powerful self-healing &damage vampiric ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form (75% damage reduction)
6) being an emperor

''It is totally broken mechanic exploiting all these 6 things combined (see above) to abuse ultimate vampire ability''

Please. tell me where the ''bug'' the ''glitch'' the exploit Is?
This is just a smart combination of Class, Armor and Skill choice.

ESO Is about setting up the ultimate build.
And until all the children In Cyrodiil stop crying and throwing a Tantrum cause they are physically and mentally unable to use their brains.
Then this will be the strongest build

I've fought and killed tons of Vampires b4...
wna know how?
Well first of all I didn't zerg into the *** heals..
No
When we meet vampires we spread out.
We use CC, and we use Fire and Fighters guild spells.
Here's a good combo I like to use.
Silver leash,
100% knockdown 5% 1 shot.
+ I can pull the enemy.
+ Now that's really fun to use If u got a friend with an a Oil pot.
It's that simple.

Another Is simply. 2-24+ guys. Will switch between spamming their Silver bolts.
While other spams Magicka based Fire dot, and Magicka CC.
This allows constant CC'ing forever until the Silver bolts and Fire dots kill the enemy.


Your problem right there was you only had what? 7 guys In group and like 4-5 on TS / Skype. (WHAT THE F*CK???)

When I go PvP. I bring EVERYONE from the guild, and then just pug randoms
And tell them to join TS <-- (Important). So we can actually organize.
If we meet vampires. We use a very simple Anti-Vampire tactic.
Specializing In, Silver bolt chain use (So Instead of spamming it. We use It so there Is always atleast 1 guy using It while others regain stamina.)
While u are regaining stam. others are using Silver Bolt. At these time u are on Magicka spam spree with CC, Healing reduction, and Heals & Buffs for us


Here's another thing. Emperor has 100% duration on everything.
So obviously she won't die. her 8 sec ''Greater protection'' buff.
That's now a 80 second buff. Along with other buffs.
Giving her, around 3-4K armor/Spell resist. That lasts forever

The Emperor Is meant to be a ''God of war'' As It was described.

I checked your build. It's completely wrong for Vampire slaying.
What about emperor slaying then xD
And b4 u *** me about ''being healer''
I'm a mainspec healer aswell. But when I weapon swap. I swap to a great build for wrecking Vampires and normal players.

Now, you're also lvl 34. Even If Nym-chan had been using Auto attacks and block only (No Emperor or Vampire stuff) She would have been able to take atleast a 1 v 3 Since u are all low level, and just a random zerg running around.

Do u know what we in Ebonheart pact call the Dominion? NPC's
You guys act just like NPC's. You run around randomly without any tactics.
And not to mention when we do look at u. We win instantly.

Wna know why Nym was alone over there? Cause we send her out alone to you guys while we go 3 guilds and all random zergs aswell to fight the Daggerfall.

You in the Dominion are so pathetic that we can leave our Emperor and those randoms that don't listen to deal with you.

Wna know why you haven't been attacked that much? cause there's not a single 1 of u guys that does anything smart In Dominion. like this 1 time. Nikel, Roe, Alessia, Faregyl. You lost all those keeps and Outpost. Why? Cause all of you were taking Bleakers outpost. Great trade 1 Outpost Instead of 50% of what you owned. Then you lost 2 scrolls and couldn't even hold Bleakers for 10 minutes.

Not to mention how badly both the Daggerfall and Dominion play.
We are wrecking you with almost 30K lead In points.


''PS Btw emperors keep ultimate cost reduction even after they are no longer emperors.
Yea well they do. but wait what? No. Emperors don't have ANY reduction. They do however have 200% Ultimate gains. (Did u even study ONE thing b4 writing this 99.99% *** post?)
And yes, they do keep the Ultimate gains. But Instead of 200% It's 4%
woow so great! Now I get my Ultimate back up 1 second faster!!! Amaziiing


Here's another thing I forgot to add in. '' 4 and even 0!!!'' In the cost of Ultimate.
No
It's 40.
And goes to 30 for DK / Sorc.
And btw. In order for Vampire to work. You need to first! feed, You have to feed everytime you go on a loading screen. If u don't feed, It goes back to 150-200 Cost.
So Everytime u go on loading screen u have to find a human NPC. Feed, and wait 1.5 to 3.5 hours to get to Stage 4 for 30-40 Ultimate cost

So, All of you're *** above Is just meaningless crying.
This will not be nerfed. However, Zenimax might just tell you that the Fighters guild has tons upon tons of spells that 1 shot Vampires. Not to mention with a bit of teamwork You can harass vampires to death easily with a few easy CC chains.

The guys that are actually crying. I bet they didn't even try using a CC Chain...
As a veteran PvP'er from WoW I've done well over 5000 Arenas.
And I know how to set up a proper CC chain to keep my enemies down for long enough to wipe em out.

Wall of text crits you for *9000*

cjtignub17_ESO

hes not doing much damage just casting mist form and bat swarm is crap damage. Stop attacking him.

Hes emperor what did you expect

NordJitsu

Dragon Knights are broken because of the powerful self heal (Dragon's Blood and its morphs) and its unstoppable CC (Dark Talons and morphs.)

The biggest problem with what you see here is the stacking of ultimate reduction.

There needs to be a "Cost Reduction" hard cap and soft cap, like there is with other stats.

Neferath

Honestly guys and girls ... dk is broken because of it's powerfull self heal, templar is broken because of it's powerfull aoe, sorc is broken because of it's teleport, nightblade is broken because of it's tremendous crit damage ... if Zenimax is listening to all the whiners and ranters out there, every single class is totaly broken and overpowered right the moment you in person aren't playing it. Stop this bs and at least try to have a second look at all the classes and their skills.

Nothing is broken or overpowered here. Every single class has their great benefits and also their drawbacks. There isn't a single skill that you can't counter ... at least if you put some brain and effort in your character build.

Yes of course there are still some skill related bugs which need to be addressed, but thats a matter of bugfixing and not a matter of balancing or nerving classes and skills.

Honestly pls do the whole ESO community a favor and stop this ranting and whining.

All what you are doing atm, is breaking a well balanced game because of mechanics you don't understand and bugs that are allready addressed and waiting for their fix.

Stop this ... seriously.

Vitho

Zoliru wrote: »

now i know why 10 of us gott killed in seconds on top of a wall by a 2500 HP sorcerer that spammed the same aoe and was alone and not lost health til my groupmates also arrived with their 20 man Vet 3-5 players even then he was tanking them for some time..........

I dont need to be a vamp to take out 10ppl.
AE root - firewall- Impuls - done!
togehter with the sorc skill who buff my weapon dmg and heals me on crit my life wont droop as long i can doge or block any cc.
BUT this only works again grp and is useless again 4 or less ppl

I like it
mindless zergs destroi gw2 and now u need to rethink ur tactics