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Think bolt escape will be nerfed?
345zac_ESO
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I am thinking of rolling a sorc simply because of bolt escape in PVP. It would be a waste of time and effort if I leveled him and bolt escape just got nerfed, So, you guys think it will be nerfed?
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Kolache✭✭✭✭I'd wager that at least something with it will change, like how it works with carrying a scroll. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was left untouched or nerfed into the ground though. Too early to predict how they'll handle these sort of controversies and what they investigate/perceive as issues (or not).Something being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.0 -
Kolache✭✭✭✭
Almost seems that way on these fairly quiet forums.. Then I read another war about it on tamrielfoundry, then I go into cyrodiil and hear other people bitching about it... then I log into vent and hear other conversations about it. Odlly, not all the same 3 people in each medium.Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »No. Because its only 3 people crying about it.
Something being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.0 -
Phoenix99✭✭✭It should just get a small nerf, like 1-1,5s delay between consecutive recasts. It will still be useful, but will allow skilled players with high reaction time to actually chase down and kill a sorc.
Other than that, it is fine. Put more delay and it will kill the skill for PvP, do nothing, and this will be a mandatory skill in PvP as it is becoming now for every sorc player out there.0 -
I can see it being changed when carrying a scroll but otherwise, not really. But who knows, we don't decide this and right now there are much more important issues that need to be resolved then an wanting to nurf this ability, such as the scores of players unable to even load into and take part in the alliance wars.1
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scy22b14_ESO✭✭✭It will be changed. Anyone with any kind of MMO experience will tell you this. In it's current state it's a completely broken skill.
It's imminent nerf shouldn't deter you from rolling a sorc though, they'll be fine even after the adjustment.4 -
Oblongship✭✭✭✭345zac_ESO wrote: »I am thinking of rolling a sorc simply because of bolt escape in PVP. It would be a waste of time and effort if I leveled him and bolt escape just got nerfed, So, you guys think it will be nerfed?
It will most def be nerfed man...
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Ghenra✭✭✭YES.
Bolt Escape need to be nerfed soon, most OP lamer skill. People using it and getting inmortal. WTF!!
Nerf it and the other OP skills to keep skilled game in Cirodiil.0 -
Raice✭✭✭I doubt it. If it were going to be nerfed, it would have been nerfed already. As I understand it, every class has at least one ability that is ridiculous... except maybe Nightblade. I haven't heard much about it being stupid OP. But DK and Temp? Yeah... people talk about those classes too.1 -
Zaldoras✭✭✭The only nerf I can see coming is that using it causes you to drop the scroll, and it should.1
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beravinprb19_ESO✭✭✭Yeah, I think that and a few other things will get nerfed. The vampire skills, for example, need a good looking at. Deadly bash might also be a problem, but I don't see it very often so I won't comment... Either way, it will be very interesting to see the first balance patch. We have not had one yet, and I am most curious to see what Zenimax has to say.Edited by beravinprb19_ESO on 18 April 2014 08:460
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly , i can look at any class and i find skills that , in my opinion , should be nerfed.
But this does not worries me much , pick a class for its concept , not power , because the nerf bat will come , it always comes."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Gwarok✭✭✭rolling a sorc simply because
...and so begins the "Flavor of The Month Club". (sarcasm)Edited by Gwarok on 18 April 2014 09:19"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade
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Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man.
O, be some other name!
What's in a name?
That which we call a rose?
By any other name would smell as sweet.
Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
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NordJitsu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No way this skill will be further nerfed. Its already been majorly hit (which was not needed) by adding a harsh magicka regen penalty.
Weakening it further would ruin the skill entirely.0 -
Kolache✭✭✭✭No way this skill will be further nerfed. Its already been majorly hit (which was not needed) by adding a harsh magicka regen penalty.
lol ok... I guess this shows how useless it is to try to relate to someone on this subject. If you think that it should have remained un-nerfed as an in-combat mount replacement for VR10 Sorcs then of course you're not going to agree with any reasoning for balance.Something being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.0 -
MoMoOG✭✭This is the universal rule of class balance in all recently launched MMOS. The class that gets the most whines about being OP will be nerfed to the ground and stays there for a long long time. The class that gets the most whines about being UP will get buffed to god like status stays there for a long long time. So my suggestion is for all sorcs to reroll nightblade.0
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SwampRaider✭✭✭✭✭Sorc gets to 10% hp. starts bolt escape spamming. I activate AW skill speed increase and throw an aedric spear . Sorc falls to the ground.Edited by SwampRaider on 18 April 2014 14:33Character: Eros, Eros I I, The Paw of Woe
Class: Templar Healer/MagWarden/ Stam Sorc
Alliance: DC
Campaign: Vivec (pc/na)
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I would not be surprised if it was some how changed, but that's no different when looking at how powerful the dragon knight class is. All these things will change in time, but many of us find these threads a little funny and a good source to help pass the time. Even though I and many others know the DK is wildly over the top, I wont create a thread that's exactly like the other 20 out there and cry my heart out. Instead, I learn and adopt to it while letting things progress. Sadly, some people don't want to learn, they just want things given to them.0
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beravinprb19_ESO✭✭✭SwampRaider wrote: »Sorc gets to 10% hp. starts bolt escape spamming. I activate AW skill speed increase and throw an aedric spear . Sorc falls to the ground.
Then that Sorcerer was an idiot for reading his map while you knocked him down to 10% health. I mean really. Did he confuse you with an ally for the first 5 seconds of the fight or something? Sorcerers are not powerless kittens that are only capable of fleeing.
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The only people who think Bolt Escape needs nerfed are people who seriously aren't very good.2
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beravinprb19_ESO✭✭✭kcolasaccob14_ESO wrote: »The only people who think Bolt Escape needs nerfed are people who seriously aren't very good.
Yes, because that's the only possible conclusion. They must be bad. You are right, I should have 2 speed boosts and 3 gap closers on my bar at all times. Oh, I know what would help! I should mount in combat and chase after him, too. Then I might be able to catch him.
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eol✭✭✭Yes, its bound to be, its blatantly overpowered. And if the only reason you would roll a sorc is because of this overpowered skill, then you deserve what you get. Find a class you enjoy playing because of the style and not because of one particular god-mode skill, because otherwise you will have an unhappy existence in MMOs because there will always be changes and adjustments in MMOs, especially in MMOs with a pvp endgame.0
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eol✭✭✭kcolasaccob14_ESO wrote: »The only people who think Bolt Escape needs nerfed are people who seriously aren't very good.
No, but the ones who don't think it needs to be nerfed are the ones who cant play and win without a god-mode skill. Bads don't want an even playing field.1 -
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✭they need to nerf it, everytime im finnishing a sorcerer he just dissapear with bolt escape.VR16 Templar
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eol✭✭✭No way this skill will be further nerfed. Its already been majorly hit (which was not needed) by adding a harsh magicka regen penalty.
Haha, good one. A harsh mana regen penalty. So when a sorc kills people with strong dps and then can run away at the first sign of danger, get to safety, WHERE MANA REGEN IS MEANINGLESS, and then come back with a full magicka bar to fight again, that's fair?!?!
Whats even more laughable is that I have chased down sorcs who used escape bolt many times (because they finally stopped knowing they had outrun most everyone), and by the time I caught up with them, their mana bar was as full as mine. I distinctly remember this on three occasions because the reason I kept chasing was the hope of them assuming they were out of danger and then catching them with a low magicka bar.
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Whats even more laughable is that I have chased down sorcs who used escape bolt many times (because they finally stopped knowing they had outrun most everyone), and by the time I caught up with them, their mana bar was as full as mine. I distinctly remember this on three occasions because the reason I kept chasing was the hope of them assuming they were out of danger and then catching them with a low magicka bar.
You chased a sorc who was Bolt Escaping, and was sad to discover he wasn't an easy kill. So, let's Nerf Bolt Escape!
Sounds to me like a lesson learned.
Let's increase the Stamina and/r Magicka pools of all DK and NB abilities by a factor of 6 like it was with BE, and then let the whining commence.
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭Bolt escape is the most overpowered ability in PvP, of course it will be nerfed.End the tedious inventory management game.0
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Oblongship✭✭✭✭345zac_ESO wrote: »I am thinking of rolling a sorc simply because of bolt escape in PVP. It would be a waste of time and effort if I leveled him and bolt escape just got nerfed, So, you guys think it will be nerfed?
I can say with 100% certainty it is being nerfed.0
