PvP is still an unbalanced mess

Elyna

Most fights boil down to "Who has the most stuns to spam?"

Zargorius

Use your CC break.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Still? You know the games been out a week right?

Elyna

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Still? You know the games been out a week right?

I've been around since beta. The CC lock issue still exists. Theres not enough feedback as to whats going on.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Ok the game has been out a week you know that right?

Azarul

What CC issue? For some reason there's a lot of people that think you should be able to survive/escape a 3 vs 1 fight. No you should not, you sure wouldn't in real life.

Elyna

Azarul wrote: »

What CC issue? For some reason there's a lot of people that think you should be able to survive/escape a 3 vs 1 fight. No you should not, you sure wouldn't in real life.

Actually as of late it was the other way around. 1 person survived 3 people and killed them because of CC lock and a massive shield. It also seemed like non of the other CC was working on him.

Zargorius

Elyna wrote: »

Azarul wrote: »

What CC issue? For some reason there's a lot of people that think you should be able to survive/escape a 3 vs 1 fight. No you should not, you sure wouldn't in real life.

Actually as of late it was the other way around. 1 person survived 3 people and killed them because of CC lock and a massive shield. It also seemed like non of the other CC was working on him.

He used a CC break and gained immunity maybe? L2P I'd say, so far I'm unimpressed by most people's skill level in pvp, guess many are not used to Action combat.

Elyna

Zargorius wrote: »

Elyna wrote: »

Azarul wrote: »

What CC issue? For some reason there's a lot of people that think you should be able to survive/escape a 3 vs 1 fight. No you should not, you sure wouldn't in real life.

Actually as of late it was the other way around. 1 person survived 3 people and killed them because of CC lock and a massive shield. It also seemed like non of the other CC was working on him.

He used a CC break and gained immunity maybe? L2P I'd say, so far I'm unimpressed by most people's skill level in pvp, guess many are not used to Action combat.

There's almost no visual aid. I didnt see a sheild, I didnt see him glowing, he was just immune to CC. I honestly thought the game was glitching out.

Zargorius

CC immunity is not a shield or glow, it's a sort of white "whirlwind" around the player. I dunno if this is affected by graphic settings or can sometimes be not displayed for other reasons (I know in large PvP battles some particle effects may bug out and not display)

awkwarrd

I read everything up to this comment.

Seems like you and those around you are new.

CC break and skill.
This is why you were killed and lost your fight.

Visual aid means nothing if you don't even know what happened in the first place.
The comment "L2P" stands strong in this thread.

If he was stunned, then broke out, and you couldn't stun him, he obviously used CC Break.
Saying you thought the game was glitched and needed some graphical glowing shield or w/e means you didn't know there was a CC Break and don't know what happens if you ever used the CC Break yourself.

The more you reply, the more it shows that this is just another whinge thread about making it easier for you because you have very little knowledge of the game or what is going on around you.

This is WAR.
Sparkling animations for no reason that give your enemy strategy hints is horrible and unbalanced.

jolith07b14_ESO

Don't leave home without your active armor skill is that simple, or throw caution into the wind that's what makes this game great.

oh by the way if you have enough stamina the sprint key can unlock ya too.

Elyna

awkwarrd wrote: »

I read everything up to this comment.

Seems like you and those around you are new.

CC break and skill.
This is why you were killed and lost your fight.

Visual aid means nothing if you don't even know what happened in the first place.
The comment "L2P" stands strong in this thread.

If he was stunned, then broke out, and you couldn't stun him, he obviously used CC Break.
Saying you thought the game was glitched and needed some graphical glowing shield or w/e means you didn't know there was a CC Break and don't know what happens if you ever used the CC Break yourself.

The more you reply, the more it shows that this is just another whinge thread about making it easier for you because you have very little knowledge of the game or what is going on around you.

This is WAR.
Sparkling animations for no reason that give your enemy strategy hints is horrible and unbalanced.

Heres the problem. he was in stealth. Out of nowhere he CC locked me 2 others came to help and he proceeded to CC lock them as well. How am I supposed to counter that when I cant do nothing? He just used dragonchain over and over.

Watch this video. It brings up a lot of issues with PvP in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBcjsOt0_g

awkwarrd

I seen that video almost 2 years ago.

Alot of these issues you don't know how to counter.
The people who came to help you also didn't know how to counter.

All 3 of you could have had 8-10 seconds worth of immune to CC.. where he could do nothing but take punishment from all 3 of you.

If you're not going to take the hints people are giving you in this thread, we can stop trying to help, and you can forever be CC killed and learn nothing new ever again.

Not trying to be mean, if it sounds like this, then im sorry.
But you can't argue your point, when everything you have said up to this point has been "im new and don't know" and the people who try to help you are basically being ignored, it appears you are trying to make your point valid, when it's not.

I just hope you take the advice people have given you, or atleast ask some questions to better understand them so that you learn from this, saves you making mistakes in the future, and next time you might not need 2 friends to come help you, you can just dismember him on your own.

Niminion

It is impossible to cc lock someone in this game. Push both mouse buttons and instantly break cc and become immune for 8 seconds. When a cc breaks you are also immune for 8 seconds. No cooldown, reduces current stamina. If anything cc in a 1v1 is too weak.

Elyna

awkwarrd wrote: »

I seen that video almost 2 years ago.

Alot of these issues you don't know how to counter.
The people who came to help you also didn't know how to counter.

All 3 of you could have had 8-10 seconds worth of immune to CC.. where he could do nothing but take punishment from all 3 of you.

If you're not going to take the hints people are giving you in this thread, we can stop trying to help, and you can forever be CC killed and learn nothing new ever again.

Not trying to be mean, if it sounds like this, then im sorry.
But you can't argue your point, when everything you have said up to this point has been "im new and don't know" and the people who try to help you are basically being ignored, it appears you are trying to make your point valid, when it's not.

I just hope you take the advice people have given you, or atleast ask some questions to better understand them so that you learn from this, saves you making mistakes in the future, and next time you might not need 2 friends to come help you, you can just dismember him on your own.

I will admit that I was a little upset when I made this post. Sorry.

tawok

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ok the game has been out a week you know that right?

The only excuse the knob-polishers have. You know the game was in beta for months, right?

awkwarrd

Elyna wrote: »

I will admit that I was a little upset when I made this post. Sorry.

Cool.

Here is a video you may like to watch.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/72861/cc-tutorial-in-pvp#latest

Ravinsild

I am confused. I thought pressing both left and right mouse buttons at the same time thrust your weapons forward slightly for an interrupt?

dahl.lucas_ESO

It does that too

awkwarrd

Ravinsild wrote: »

I am confused. I thought pressing both left and right mouse buttons at the same time thrust your weapons forward slightly for an interrupt?

Holding "RIGHT" mouse then clicking "LEFT" mouse is the interupt.

Mashing both mice buttons together at same time is CC Break.

sethydishub17_ESO

Yeah. CC is not an issue at all. The real issue is the game needs to teach its basic mechanics better when players start the game. I don't know how many nooblets I see not blocking obvious CC spells.... HOLD BLOCK AND YOU WONT GET HARD CC"D AND ZENIMAX TEACH THE NEWBLETS SO I DONT HAVE TO WASTE ALL MY SOULGEMS ON THEM rant over.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

tawok wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ok the game has been out a week you know that right?

The only excuse the knob-polishers have. You know the game was in beta for months, right?

Things can come up between beta and launch. Its been a whole 8 days lets try and give them some time. Also as you can see from this thread what he is talking about is not any kind of bug or balance issue. Its just he didnt know about stun immunity.

KaneK899ub17_ESO

tawok wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ok the game has been out a week you know that right?

The only excuse the knob-polishers have. You know the game was in beta for months, right?

And idiots still insist beta testing is for balancing purposes, not bug, stress, and feature testing.

dermottib14_ESO

if CC spam killed you, you were probably gonna die anyways. Either because you are a noob and dont know about stun breaks, or the the battle wasnt winable anyways.

Elyna

dermottib14_ESO wrote: »

if CC spam killed you, you were probably gonna die anyways. Either because you are a noob and dont know about stun breaks, or the the battle wasnt winable anyways.

Let me guess. Your main is a DK?

drwoody44b14_ESO

What I read: Myself and 2 buddies got our ass whooped by a skilled player. Nerf Plz.


Oh look, a game where its not auto win if you have the numbers on your side. About time I say. Maybe we'll finally start seeing small groups of players smash zergs into the ground like the good old days where skill caps were higher.

Elyna

drwoody44b14_ESO wrote: »

What I read: Myself and 2 buddies got our ass whooped by a skilled player. Nerf Plz.


Oh look, a game where its not auto win if you have the numbers on your side. About time I say. Maybe we'll finally start seeing small groups of players smash zergs into the ground like the good old days where skill caps were higher.

I find it funny how you say this game isnt an auto win because of numbers. And youre right, its not. Its all about who has the most stuns. Also zerg rushes will never die. Seeing how the average player will stun spam, youre "ultra-mega super squad of skill" Will spend their whole time CC breaking.

drwoody44b14_ESO

I see you ignored almost every post in this thread on why you are wrong and your information in incorrect.

Any my ulta-mega super squad of skill is already zerg bombing, and its a blast. Taking on 10 VR1's with 4 people and winning is a beautiful thing to behold.

Elyna

drwoody44b14_ESO wrote: »

I see you ignored almost every post in this thread on why you are wrong and your information in incorrect.

Any my ulta-mega super squad of skill is already zerg bombing, and its a blast. Taking on 10 VR1's with 4 people and winning is a beautiful thing to behold.

10 people is hardly a zerg.

EDIT: Also its clear you didnt read every post as well. Because if you did, you would see that I acknowledged my ignorance to the game mechanics.

tawok

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