azraels_grave wrote: »Keep in mind things noted here are simple examples, not actual or all inclusive. And thus should not be considered in such ways. And while accidental bans do happen even in larger games, its unfortunate. It happens. In falseness one must examine the information at hand, not take your "word" for it. And the examination of this information can at times be undeterminable in length. Thus patience is a virtue, and helping to clear yourself if falsely done. Ranting, raging, yelling, hardly helps in such matters. Other than to make it impossible, difficult or denied.
SypherDiass wrote: »
ban me if you wish , after spending the amount of time it takes to report and ignore then note all these 'people' today ,in just 3 - 4 hours of my play time, i have played for next to no time , and i have not been able to enjoy my experience on the game at all because of all this ....
all of the above have screenshots submitted and the ones that came via in game mail i have my own screenshots of, so if anyones name is on the list and they wish to contest it , feel free and i will post the picture with the evidence for all to see .... though it will have to be hosted elsewhere as you couldnt possibly put the evidence in this thread where it has the most relevance ...
DBHAShadow wrote: »
In my opinion it's better for you, you in particular to ignore them completely instead of reporting them and then complaining to the ends of the earth about it. Let people who will report them for the sake of it getting fixed do it, instead of trying to white knight and go "oh lord have mercy I could have played for the four hours I was on, but being the good Samaritan I am, I spent 3 of those 4 hours reporting, and now I want Zos to refund me for those 3 hours cause I'm so awesome and how dare they make me report them, ban me if you want I don't care lololololol"
Seriously man, give it a rest.
SypherDiass wrote: »DBHAShadow wrote: »
In my opinion it's better for you, you in particular to ignore them completely instead of reporting them and then complaining to the ends of the earth about it. Let people who will report them for the sake of it getting fixed do it, instead of trying to white knight and go "oh lord have mercy I could have played for the four hours I was on, but being the good Samaritan I am, I spent 3 of those 4 hours reporting, and now I want Zos to refund me for those 3 hours cause I'm so awesome and how dare they make me report them, ban me if you want I don't care lololololol"
Seriously man, give it a rest.
did i ask for a refund ? did i ask for any sort of compensation for the time i have spent reporting these scum bags ? NO . i did not ask for anything , other than some kind of actual proof that they are doing something about it ...
and as of right now , they have broken the report function , so naming names in here may well be the only way to get it seen at the minute ....
so if you really have nothing constructive to say , i suggest you go and troll somewhere else ...
DBHAShadow wrote: »
Says the guy who opened up on the first page with all caps, honestly? So you think breaking their policy while going all bro mode "I don't care if you ban me" is the right way to go? You can create tickets on the forums. Everyone of your posts in here has been whining and complaining as to how much of your time reporting people takes. You want proof, they say 1000 people were banned not good enough for you, you need a personal letter mailed to you, with the names, addresses ect of people banned so you can sleep at night, because their word isn't good enough? Just because you didn't demand a refund or anything means that your still all that's holy in the world, you report people then come on here wailing and screaming that you demand proof of banishment like some kind of high lord. I'm not saying stop reporting people, but if you feel you need to come on here and either tell everyone "yeah I report people" to feel good, then don't bother. Negative demanding needy people like you are filling the forums constantly asking for personal responses as if you're the next CEO of the company.
SypherDiass wrote: »as i said before shadow , go an troll somewhere else , all of your posts in this thread have been against other people trying to voice their opinion about a subject they feel is not being addressed sufficiently.
if you cant say anything helpful , try not to say anything at all ....
as the game is soo much fun to play right now , i will scroll all your posts an see if you actually have said anything at all worth saying ....
SypherDiass wrote: »I WILL BELIEVE YOU HAVE BANNED THOUSANDS WHEN GUILD MATES NO LONGER COMPLAIN ABOUT GOLD SELLERS I DONT SEE COS I HAVE ALRDY IGNORED THEM ....
IS IT OK THAT THEY ARE NOW HARRASSING US BY MAIL WITH THE GOLD SELLING ? I DONT CARE IF YOU BAN ME , THE GAME IS RAPIDLY LOSING ITS APPEAL TO ME WITH ALL THE TIME I HAVE TO SPEND REPORTING AND IGNORING AND NOT SEEING ANY SIGN OF THE 'THOUSANDS' YOU SAY YOU HAVE BANNED , OR IF YOU HAVE BANNED THOUSANDS , TRY MOVING OFF THE US SERVER AND START BANNING SOME OF THE EU SERVER ....
HERE ARE TWO IMAGES THAT I LOADED IN TO THIS MORNING WHEN I MADE A NEW CHARACTER ....
WHERE IS MY IMAGE UPLOADING OPTION GONE ?
I LOADED AN IMAGE INTO MY LAST POST THAT YOU DELETED ? BEFORE YOU REDIRECTED ME HERE ? WTF IS GOING ON ?
DO YOU EVEN WANT OUR HELP OR WHAT ?
The ban on my husband's account was revoked today. According to him, while the emails seemed pretty cut and paste, the representative he did talk to cared about his situation and was helpful.
He was banned for 4 days total.
If this happens to you (and it will to a few if they're getting rid of cheaters so quickly), be patient and appeal it. Seems like this is just part of the launch drama.
The ban on my husband's account was revoked today. According to him, while the emails seemed pretty cut and paste, the representative he did talk to cared about his situation and was helpful.
He was banned for 4 days total.
If this happens to you (and it will to a few if they're getting rid of cheaters so quickly), be patient and appeal it. Seems like this is just part of the launch drama.
MasterSpatula wrote: »This is great, but I still don't understand what's so hard about having GMs wander around the low-level areas and issuing bans to gold spammers on the spot.
Mempomaniac wrote: »SuperScrubby wrote: »I'm hoping this is good news since I haven't logged in today. I hope nobody reported me for boss farming since people have been overzealous lately....
I wouldn't fret too much over it. Generally*, getting a complaint is the beginning of an investigative process, not the end of it. Reps will also look at the metrics of your account and compare the data to the norm; if they don't find some sort of wierd spike indicating illegal activity (mined lots of nodes in just a few minutes, ludicrous amounts of mail or chat spam, evidence of teleport or speed hacks, etc.), they'll probably just flag it as a false positive and go on.
Mind you, you don't HAVE to be a hacker or a botter to get banned; run-of-the-mill jerks will get the hammer, too. It just takes longer.
*Obv this is based on my experiences in other games, but it's a good bet ESO will work this way too.
jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »TwistedRiddlesb14_ESO wrote: »brandonedward wrote: »Mempomaniac wrote: »
I wouldn't fret too much over it. Generally*, getting a complaint is the beginning of an investigative process, not the end of it.
Say that to a bunch of people who were banned "permanently" simply by just trading gold to their friends, guildies, and even people on the same IP address (20k-40k+), along with some that just put gold into their shared bank, then took it out with an alt, only to be banned.
I'm afraid to even trade now, or even put gold into my bank... or to have it on me... or to even play!
I really hope this gets resolved. This is like the biggest customer service mistake I have ever seen in an MMO.
I agree. From what I can tell from talking to friends and guildmates, there is a lot of insecurity right now. Whether those people reporting to be innocently banned are telling the truth or not, it has lead to people not being sure about what is allowed and what not. As in: Can we give money we earned while adventuring to guildmates and friends in need without having to fear to get flagged as a gold seller?
Some kind of official statement to reassure people would be in order.
On a more positve note, I congratulate ZOS for taking quick and harsh action against those who actually do deserve to get banned for cheating. It is good to hear that action is being taken against gold sellers and botters. Keep it up!
Yup, I'm cynical enough to believe that ZOS is screwing up with them, and untrusting enough to believe that everyone claiming to be innocent is lying. Leaves me feeling rather confused about what is actually acceptable to them. Note if some things are unacceptable that some claim to have been banned for, it will make me question whether to continue subbing.
DBHAShadow wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »This is great, but I still don't understand what's so hard about having GMs wander around the low-level areas and issuing bans to gold spammers on the spot.
They don't even do that in WoW, they are better off to setup a somewhat automated system, that way their GM's can handle real work like answering tickets or helping with bugs. You can never win with gold spammers, they will always be back, and there will always be more. It's better to commit the man power else where and let the system handle it.