Inventory and bank are too small.

Jadeviper1974

Here are a couple of things I have done to maximize my bank space.

I only use the bank for refined materials and a few things that I want a different character to break down. (Refined materials being Iron Bars and I keep any ore on the character until I have enough to refine.

I also have all the CE treasure maps and pets. I have transferred these items to a mule character until needed. (Seriously Zenimax...Vanity pets that take up inventory space? That is just naughty.)

Taurus498

Yes, the Bank & Inventory space in this game is daunting at first, but you just need to figure out ways to manage them efficiently, so that you can spend most of your time playing the game and not micro-managing your Inventories.

I currently have 8 alts all around level 11, with each specializing in 4-5 different Crafts, and I'm able to manage my Bank & Inventory space sufficiently.

If you want to know how I managed to do this, then have a look at these two posts here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/614518/#Comment_614518

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/630059/#Comment_630059

As you can see, the main way to free up Bank & Inventory space is to not hoard Provisioning Ingredients, as there are far too many of them, and it really isn't necessary to hoard them anyway.

So to those that are having Bank & Inventory issues, please have a go at managing them the way I am and let me know if it does or doesn't work for you.

Also, if anybody else has any ideas on how to more effectively manage Bank & Inventory space for 8 alts specializing in 4-5 different Crafts each please let me know, as it would be very much appreciated.

Xbloody_m3ssx

Pelargonia wrote: »

Xbloody_m3ssx wrote: »

I think most of you are missing the point. Do you have infinite space and time to master everything in real life? The answer of course is no. Its what makes the crafting system immersive. It builds a community aspect. Just like in real life you can try to master everything but it is impractical. Thats why we as humans live in communities. We all provide a different service to help society run as a whole. One person makes food, another makes armor and so forth. It really builds a community aspect in the game. You can trade your armor for other goods you need, and work as a whole. Like i said if you want to master everything you can but its going to be hard. That adds a great degree of immersion imo, that the devs probably put alot more thought into than any of you are considering.

But each character, when a person has more than one, should be able to master something or even two things without ruining the immersion. In fact, the immersion is ruined if you can only allow one of your characters to concentrate on crafting in a couple of professions due to limited bag space while all your other characters are not allowed to craft in order to please the inventory juggling resource management gods.

I did not do every profession on every toon I played in Skyrim but amongst all my toons I did do every profession and you did not even share the products amongst them in that single player game.

Well it would be beneficial to have a shared bank space and then individual banks for your toons, that would take care of some of the stress for those with more then one toon. after all you don't share your bank account and credit card with 8 different people. i can agree with it being an issue for those individuals.

BenjaminKacher_ESO

So I'm guessing anyone complaining about bank/inventory size has never played an Elder Scrolls game before... All I can say is they start you with more slots than WOW, RIFT, SWTOR, and many other games do and it's pretty easy to upgrade size (when it doesn't bug and make you lose all your things).

Please stop griping about not being able to do everything in the game and let the devs/admins worry about real problems.

Casanovious

Dreddpool wrote: »

What 60 slots not enough for you?
The personal bank has extra bank slots for1000 gold, So buy some and stop complaining.

Perhaps you failed to notice that those 60 slots are shared by up to 8 different characters. For people who play many characters and/or people trying to learn multiple crafts, the available storage space is woefully inadequate. And some people need more space very early in the game - like my wife who plays 8 characters and wants to learn all the crafts. She finds the problem discouraging.

Mikeriddle1b16_ESO

The storage space when crafting is not adequate. I do use alts but it is annoying and discouraging to have to spend 40 minutes at the end of every game session juggling items between alts. There is no problem if not crafting, but when storing components, racial style materials and items needing to be broken down for research the space available, even with a few purchased upgrades on the main bank and each active alt is IMO simply not adequate.

Some form of additional space for components or a component bag is essential.

Pelargonia

BenjaminKacher_ESO wrote: »

So I'm guessing anyone complaining about bank/inventory size has never played an Elder Scrolls game before... All I can say is they start you with more slots than WOW, RIFT, SWTOR, and many other games do and it's pretty easy to upgrade size (when it doesn't bug and make you lose all your things).

Please stop griping about not being able to do everything in the game and let the devs/admins worry about real problems.

I have played Oblivion and Skyrim both of which allow you to acquire bottomless chests/barrels/dressers quite readily. In Skyrim you can manage to buy your first house in Whiterun very early so you do not even have to utilize storage in a guild hall. Heck you can buy then fill petty soul gems, use them to enchant your crafted and looted iron knives to sell to vendors for a large profit, and not only make a ton of gold but also level up enchanting and smithing considerably very fast. That is just one thing, alchemy can make you so much gold so fast you cannot even find enough vendors to sell all your potions to by traveling the length and breadth of Skyrim.

Compared to WoW Slot Availability
I cannot speak to SWOTR or Rift but in WoW the bank space is not shared, so each toon gets the initial 28 bank bag slots, and initial upgrades are relatively inexpensive. So a person in WoW with 8 characters would have 224 initial bank slots on top of their 16 initial backpack slots and be able to mail items and mats between characters. The mailing between characters is necessary since the bank is not shared. A person in ESO with 8 characters has the shared bank of initially 60 slots which adds up to 7.5 bank slots per toon plus the 60 backpack slots per toon (67.5 slots total) and cannot mail between characters.

I will admit that the initial 67.5 slots per toon is greater than the initial 44 per character in WoW (adding in the 16 slot backpack) but upgrades are a lot steeper in ESO in comparison and you do not get bag upgrades as drops and quest rewards (which can be applied to either bank or backpack) like you do early on in WoW. Also the crafting space requirements are a lot higher in ESO right off the bat.

Compared to Diablo Shared Bank
I can compare to Diablo which has a shared and limited bank space that is expensive to upgrade. However, the types of crafting materials needed in Diablo are incredibly limited compared to ESO or even WoW and also stack in 100s so most of bank space is used for sharing of gear finds between toons.

More Slots Inordinately Expensive Compared to Gold Making Opportunities
Though, thankfully, you can stack mats in larger stacks than in WoW you do not have the demand or ability to liquidate excess crafted product in ESO. I have never actually sold a single item through guild stores and the return of selling to vendors is pitiful. I refuse to stand around spamming items for sale in zone chat as that would totally ruin my experience. In WoW, you can make quite a bit of gold working on your crafting professions and selling product through the auction house thus gaining the ability to increase the size of your bank/bag space quite rapidly. In ESO, between feeding your horse and trying to save a little for buying more storage slots you are constantly poor and have little opportunity to purchase gear or mats from other people or vendors. Granted, if you actually had more time to quest and explore rather than juggling items you might make more gold more quickly but that is not how things are set up if you want to craft as well.

Yankee

Save up some gold and buy more bank slots.....

Oh wait......

djodars

I only have 2 professions (Enchanting and Clothing) and my bank is upgraded at 110 slots... all filled by crap I need to craft. And I'm not even high level so I don't have all the items yet. 40k to upgrade the bank and STILL not enough place, this is ridiculous.

CTraveler

My biggest problem with Inventory space has been being forced to keep items in Inventory for Researching traits, as the timers are at a point where they take two days now to finish. ^_^;

But since I've increased my three characters to be able to have 80 slots, and bank to have 70, I've not run into a space issue at all even with 20-some slots filled with stuff-to-research. My bank isn't even hitting a full 50 slots at the moment. I've simply been focusing on Cloth, Armor, and Woodworking; and ignored enchanting, provisioning, and alchemy for the time being. Maybe that's why? *Shrug*

bochiraneb17_ESO

sylviermoone wrote: »

My solution: Quit hording, start crafting. You have 8 freaking character slots. Dedicate 2 or 3 for crafting, problem solved.

You don't get it ....

You CAN'T do provisioning / alchemy/enchanting.... I have 3 friends that quit the game or just come to ignore that those 3 professions even exist in the game.
Once you get past tier 1 in crafting you have to throw EVERYTHING away because there is no way you can store them...this is for ONE profession. Don't even dream to make a second one.
And really..mules....bouncing mails ...in 2014 ??.I feel like in Asheron Calls 2 about 15 years ago. The dev that thought he was smart and thought to make things with more panache and invent a "soft cap" should TRY and craft more than one profession. I dare him !

Please not that I do NOT keep junk, sell every freaking item i get becasue my bags fill up in like..10 mins..then need to stop from what i'm doing, port back to bank, waste 15 mins then port back ....this is what they envisioned as next gen mmo gameplay ? really ?!

Ok, enough ranting. Here some tips from a newb player who has played a few mmos in his gaming life...

1. Reduce the mats variety ( make a fixed set of materials for cooking like...5-6 not 15-16) OR...
2. Make a material bank like in GW2 ( works like a charm) OR...
3. Let people deposit stuff in the bank from anywhere in the world OR...
4. Hardcap professions to 1 if you feel so in love with your current system, so at least people will know what they can do from the start.

Anzaman

Hyperventilate wrote: »

Guild Wars had it ideal. You had your bank + a tab for materials only.

Would be extremely useful, and I wouldn't need my bank alt(s) if they'd implement that kind of banking system into Elder Scrolls Online.

Mace

Bank staring is one of my favorite activities in games. I like to look at all of my shinies at once.
Currently I have exchanging shinies on one toon, racial and crafting mats on a second toon, jewelry, maps and trophies on a third.

How am I supposed to look at all of my beautiful loots at once when I have to log between characters!?



Seriously though.

I do enjoy sorting my bank and it is rather time consuming at the moment. One i'm confident the bank bugs are fixed I'll buy more space. I'm fine with inventory management being a "feature" by design I guess.

bochiraneb17_ESO

Guess "crafting" is an alien word to you in an mmo. If you don't craft in eso then you have zero issues with bag/bank. So just pretend this game has no crafting

StoneSilence

I do hope they add more bank upgrade slots. At higher level money is no problem, but space always is. Even if the price keeps going up, I'd be happy if they give us the option to increase bank spaces to 300. Might take a while to get all the money for it, but it will be a good money sink for Veteran players and we'll get there eventually.

Rantog

Fenbrae wrote: »

I upgraded my inventory twice (80 slots) and my bank once (70 slots) and i have never ever ran out of space.

Than you're not crafting.

I have 8 characters, all with at least 2 pack upgrades, and 100 bang spaces - I don't even know how many total spaces more from feeding the horses, but my main character has +8 from it.

Thanks to trait stoes, racial style stones, raw and processed wood cloths and leathers, a few rune stones I haven't moved to an alt at any given time, and a few odd pieces I am holding for their rare Researchable Traits as my current researches end...

All 7 alts are full, and I still have to cut quests short constantly to go sell because my main character is still lugging around a large number of materials that won't fit in the bank.


On top of all of that, I can't Do provisioning - which is something I actually Want to do! - because there is No place to store the materials.


I could give up clothing craft, and making my own staves as I level - and do provisioning Instead...

But as it is, I'm using 8 characters to store materials for Two Crafts, and don't have enough room.


The bank/bag space vs total quantity of materials involved in crafting make what would otherwise be a fun Crafting system- which promotes player interaction (swapping for dissasembly, trading materials and stones, finding and trading for traits you lack...) - FAR less enjoyable.

From what I've seen, most players are giving up on crafting by 30 because storage becomes too big a headache.

Ghorgoth

I know they have some other things to be concerned about right now, but this issue looks quite rather simple to address (ex: make bank upgrades add 50 slots instead of 10) and would improve drasticaly game experience for many players.

Kiwi

all they need to do is add in a 500 slot material only tab to the account bank

Darzil

It's fine if you never plan to craft for anyone else, that way you can just hold what you'll want and only for current craft tiers. Hell, you can do all crafts on one character like that very happily. If you want to craft for others you're out of luck, of course.

Raivyn

I stopped storing provisioning items in my bank and that helped. If I want to cook, I take time to run around and get some food items, craft, and then sell the leftovers. Since the NPC's are apparently messy monkeys and fling their five bajillion storage containers around in random fits of rage, it's not really too hard or time consuming to do it that way.

That said, I'd really like a personal bank per character. It can even be small, like 20ish slots or something, but I'd like a place to put the yet unused treasure maps, my Ring of Mara for when my husband isn't playing, the vanity pets, etc. Yeah, whoever thought to have vanity pets take inventory space needs to be enthusiastically knocked upside the head with a pool noodle about 37 times. But I digress.

If the above is just too much to code/implement/whatever, then a tab in the shared bank for crafting mats would work. It could even be small and have to be upgraded as well, since apparently gold sinks are the new black in this game. Whatever, I'll take it, as long as it's something better than the current system. I've been playing MMO's since EQ1 and this is pretty much the worst banking system I've had to deal with. Hell, speaking of EQ, just copy EQ2's banking system. Problem solved

egosumacunnus

Bank space needs to be at least 500 items at max capacity, professions have so many items i find it *** that this wasn't addressed before release. Bags of holding for specific professions that can still be accessed in your bank from crafting stations would be a superb solution. Automatically dumping crafting ingredients into the bags wouldn't go amiss either.

Desdemonte

There needs to be an unlimited materials bank. [snip] You can't even sort the mats by profession [snip]!

[edited for bashing & profanity bypass]

tordr86b16_ESO

Dreddpool wrote: »

What 60 slots not enough for you?
The personal bank has extra bank slots for1000 gold, So buy some and stop complaining.

rofl, clueless.

Yajnho

the space is quite limited. perhaps allow us to purchase crafting specific bank tabs at a discounted rate. tabs that would only hold enchanting mats, or cooking mats...

This would solve the problem I think.

Blackwidow

Fenbrae wrote: »

That's where the problem lies: playing a character from each Alliance at the same time.

Each Alliance has it's own recipes and it's own crafting materials. No wonder your banks fill up so fast.
You should probably start off with one character and earn some actual money before you decide to level a new one...

OH! I get it now.

Bank space is just fine as long as you just play one of your eight character slots.

And silly me, I thought there might be a problem.....

Anyone here who tells you there is not a banking problem, you are just playing the wrong way, is full of crap.

Dismiss most of these guys, because they have millions from abusing the game and have bought all the bank space they could ever want, or only play one character and don't craft.

We need more bank space.

Funny thing is, if we started with 1000 bank space, there would not be one person here screaming, "PLEASE MAKE OUR BANK SMALLER!" Yet, you have all these elitists coming here to fight for keeping the bank small.

Wonders never cease.

KidKablam wrote: »

one should have to think strategically about what matters and what needs to be tossed away.

I could not disagree more.

Banks should lessen the burden of inventory problems, not be the source of them.

Nooblet

I find it kind of funny most of the people complaining don't have the max inventory or bank upgrades. Yet they "need" more space.

I did not exploit anything. I have 110 inventory(140+ if i swap horse) and 140 Bank.
Would I like more? sure.. but I need to save some more gold for that, which I am ok with.

tordr86b16_ESO

Upgrading past 140 bank space will cause the bank bug to eat your stuff.

Blackwidow

Nooblet wrote: »

I find it kind of funny most of the people complaining don't have the max inventory or bank upgrades. Yet they "need" more space.

I have 150 bag space. I have 150 bank space. I have 4 characters for banks, mostly all full. I still need more space.

So, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I did not exploit anything. I have 110 inventory(140+ if i swap horse) and 140 Bank.

I'm glad you feel you have enough space.

I'm so glad you are here to fight to not have more bank space, because....

Because why?

Would I like more? sure..

Then quit fighting everyone!

Evergnar

It's an issue if you run multiple characters. Period. Separate bank space per character or separate material space would easily solve it. It's incredibly lame to have to use characters as bags and waste time logging in/out.

ciannait

Pelargonia wrote: »

At this point I cannot even consider fishing as the lures take up even more precious bag space. I would very much enjoy being able to do some fishing along the way instead of wait for some far off day when other professions are leveled first.

Yup, bait's always the first thing to get tossed for me.

ESO: Play how you want, unless you want some alts or crafters...