ESO needs a reboot in 2026 with a rollback of Subclassing

  • ZhuJiuyin
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    Subclassing isn't the problem, balancing is.

    I'm actually quite surprised that ZOS hasn't yet used class sets and class mastery as a means to balance subclassing, given their significant potential. If using pure classes increased the effectiveness of class sets and class mastery by 50% or granted additional buffs, it would definitely increase the appeal of pure classes. Even without using pure classes, class sets could serve as a way to strengthen a single skill line, instead of being essentially useless as they are now.
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  • Gabriel_H
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    However, no one ever forces you to do subclassing at all, unless you want to go for score pushing and high end game trials.

    Yes, Mrs Lincoln, other than that how was the play?

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  • karthrag_inak
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    Yes, please make a pre-U46 server, so all the complainers can have somewhere to play by themselves. All 100 of them (khajiit is feeling generous) - server probably could be a beowulf cluster of a half dozen 486s running Tiny Core with a 14" CRT.

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  • SerafinaWaterstar
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    Gabriel_H wrote: »
    However, no one ever forces you to do subclassing at all, unless you want to go for score pushing and high end game trials.

    Yes, Mrs Lincoln, other than that how was the play?

    No need for sarky responses.

    As has been pointed out repeatedly in this thread, if you chose to go for score pushing & high end game trials, you will be told by the raid lead what to bring. You can’t just rock up with whatever you like & go for trifectas.

    Now they tell you what to bring including the subclasses - what is the difference?

    And subclassing is fun for those not pursuing such things. So why get rid of it?

  • Gabriel_H
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    ZhuJiuyin wrote: »
    Now they tell you what to bring including the subclasses - what is the difference?

    From about 6 allowable builds per role to 1 - the opposite of build diversity.

    Subclassing needs to allow build diversity at all levels or it needs to go.

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  • SerafinaWaterstar
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    Gabriel_H wrote: »
    ZhuJiuyin wrote: »
    Now they tell you what to bring including the subclasses - what is the difference?

    From about 6 allowable builds per role to 1 - the opposite of build diversity.

    Subclassing needs to allow build diversity at all levels or it needs to go.

    From what I recall from guildmates doing harder stuff over the years, that really does not hold true - their raid leads were always very specific about the exact builds required.

    So it seems it is the raid leads & not the subclassing per se that is the issue?
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