Should access to East Solstice be granted immediately?

Katheriah · October 29

aussie500 wrote: »

But I still resent not getting any rewards for finishing each stage like we usually do with a community event. Our reward is something we have already paid for and we have to go through all three stages to get it, they make us suffer through all these buggy repeating quests, with nothing to really make us enthusiastic to even get to the next stage.

I thought I was unhappy before, but now I remember that we in fact did get awesome stuff in other community events... Thanks...

If you're ruining my day, I'm ruining everyone's day. The previous event rewards were:

The Gold Road Event:
33%— Vineyard Voriplasm pet
66% — Aether-Traveled Varla Stone memento
100%— Russet Brekka mount, Tree-Sap Legion arms pack, and six Nested Reward Boxes containing various in-game treasures

The Necrom Event:
33% Ebony Dwarven Scarab pet
66% Nightmare Nest Body Art and Nightmare Nest Face Art
100% Kelesan'ruhn House

The High Isle Event:
33% Oak’s Promise Markings
66% Plant Yourself Emote
100% Firesong DLC, Hoard Box & Pet

The Blackwood Event:
The Pellucid Swamp Jelly pet, unlocked at 33%
The Shadows of Blackwood markings, unlocked at 66%
The Deadlands DLC and a cascading bounty box, unlocked at 100%

The Greymoor Event:
Tier 1: Horror Within Face and Body Markings
Tier 2: Orchidfall Vale Fawn Pet
Tier 3: Antiquarian’s Alpine Gallery home AND Antiquarian Phedre Houseguest (This is the first Houseguest ever introduced to ESO!)

Guess I'm just gonna cry in a corner somewhere. And then grind to unlock content I paid for.

DenverRalphy · October 29

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

jle30303 wrote: »

When ONE server gets to the next phase, ALL servers should be advanced to the next phase. Give the members of that one server a small reward to account for their having "won the race", but put EVERYBODY through.

This!

If players were actually enjoying this event and wanted to complete phase 1 themselves they would have by now. But I have seen nothing but negative feedback about this event and I don't think most of us care how we get there. We just want it over.

As long as it was done by someone else right?
Cuz someone had to do the work to get there.

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

SilverBride · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

DenverRalphy · October 29

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

phileunderx2 · October 29

Imo if you paid for the content you shouldn't have to do all this busy work to access it.

SilverBride · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

DenverRalphy · October 29

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · October 29

jle30303 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

The Vestige being "Forced" to have to breach the wall to get through it is not lore friendly anyway, one of the Vestige's powers is reforming themselves at the nearest wayshrine, there are wayshrines in East Solstice so denying the use of our powers is totally immersion breaking.

It is like PvP and the Vestige forgetting they can revive on the spot.

I would like to remind you that some wayshrines, even in the base game, are quest-locked, and you can't port to them without having reached a certain stage of the quest.

Coldharbour "The Chasm" and "Reaver Citadel" spring to mind (and The Great Shackle, and The Endless Stair) - although, for antiquity hunting purposes, it is possible to port into North Coldharbour via the "Manor of Revelry" Wayshrine, the only one north of the Chasm that isn't quest-locked.

Tideholm wayshrine, in Dragonhold. You can't port there until you've done the first two Dragonhold quests.

I suspect Skuldafn, Mistwatch (Eastmarch) and Trolhetta Summit (The Rift) are similar - if not, they should be. So should Shrouded Pass (Rivenspire) - though I think all these are actually open for teleport.

So it's *perfectly* lore-friendly to say that you can't teleport to a place you haven't been. In fact, way back in Dungeons & Dragons tabletop, that was one of the important things about the "Teleport" spell - can't go to an unknown space.

And, in the case of ESO if you *have* been there "illegally", whether on purpose or by accident, it's perfectly okay for the devs to remove that access by locking the wayshrines so you can't port there until you've discovered them - and to port you out of the area if you're in it (with no further penalty, just in case it was by accident that you got there) - and, if you'd "discovered" the wayshrines in question while you were there, it's okay for them to remove the knowledge of that "discovery" from your character so you can't port there again until you get there properly.

I suspect that, in the long run, the wayshrines nearest the Wall will indeed be quest-locked in future, but some of the further ones might be okay to reach... for the benefit of, say, people who buy the player house that is beyond the Wall, and port to *it* and walk out of its front door on characters that haven't got that far in the Solstice quest line. (After all, they may want to hunt antiquities there.) For the same reason that people can get into Southern Coldharbour and the Hollow City there by porting to the player house.

You can still manifest at their location if you die if they are the nearest Wayshrine.

Those "Quest Locked" ones in the base game also suffer the same problem, just don't give the protagonist those powers if you intend to ignore their skill set, I could even argue an Arcanist could open an Apocryphal Gate in order to get through the wall as the apocryphal magic of an Arcanist is FAR more advanced than the Necromancy that the Worm Cult is using, the entire event boarders on a huge suspension of disbelief, what is stopping a mage from just levitating over the wall? or them sailing around it, I didn't see a wall encircling that part of the island so they could of just sailed over there.

metheglyn · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

DenverRalphy · October 29

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

It was a metaphor for the scenario. Not a simile describing the content.

SilverBride · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I get it. You don't like doing the work.

No. I don't like doing tedious boring grinding.

Syldras · October 29

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Besides the story, what exactly is there to look forward to in Eastern Solstice for veteran players? Collectables? Wow.

For me, it's just the story, although that's not very good either, to be honest. But at least it's still a bit more entertaining than repeating the same dailies for at least 4 weeks.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Why should customers work - do chores they dislike in a game - to have access to content they paid money for? The whole concept can be questioned.

metheglyn · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

It was a metaphor for the scenario. Not a simile describing the content.

I see. To me it came across as a flawed analogy, but ok. Even going with the idea that PCNA just needs to work harder, though, doesn't track for me, because there is no shortage of people doing the dailies. Those siege camps are always incredibly packed with people. This is not a case of lack of effort.

DenverRalphy · October 29

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

It was a metaphor for the scenario. Not a simile describing the content.

I see. To me it came across as a flawed analogy, but ok. Even going with the idea that PCNA just needs to work harder, though, doesn't track for me, because there is no shortage of people doing the dailies. Those siege camps are always incredibly packed with people. This is not a case of lack of effort.

Depends on how many instances of the zone the server has where the camps are always busy, compared to their average active population.

metheglyn · October 29

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

It was a metaphor for the scenario. Not a simile describing the content.

I see. To me it came across as a flawed analogy, but ok. Even going with the idea that PCNA just needs to work harder, though, doesn't track for me, because there is no shortage of people doing the dailies. Those siege camps are always incredibly packed with people. This is not a case of lack of effort.

Depends on how many instances of the zone the server has where the camps are always busy, compared to their average active population.

I disagree. People are putting in a lot of effort. For ZOS to come along and say, "You're not doing enough work to access content you already paid for" is a bit nonsensical. To me, this server "race" was always a silly idea.

Necrotech_Master · October 29

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

Then give them a reward for "winning the race" and let us move on.

And again.. nobody's won the race yet. The race is still going.

It's not a matter of measuring up to the same level as anyone else. I could do these quests all day on every one of my characters, but I don't enjoy a single thing about them and I am not going to torture myself. The Anniversary event taught me that it's just not worth it.

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Except we paid for the apple.

It was a metaphor for the scenario. Not a simile describing the content.

I see. To me it came across as a flawed analogy, but ok. Even going with the idea that PCNA just needs to work harder, though, doesn't track for me, because there is no shortage of people doing the dailies. Those siege camps are always incredibly packed with people. This is not a case of lack of effort.

Depends on how many instances of the zone the server has where the camps are always busy, compared to their average active population.

I disagree. People are putting in a lot of effort. For ZOS to come along and say, "You're not doing enough work to access content you already paid for" is a bit nonsensical. To me, this server "race" was always a silly idea.

this

all past events were a combination of all servers and it felt more cooperative and felt like the events progressed faster

me personally the rewards from doing the quests repeatedly are awful and i wont do more than get the 3 gold boxes per day (which im sure where a lot of people are at, at least likely on PC NA)

its still helping progress the event, but its only 3 quests instead of the potential like 24 quests per day you can do per character

aussie500 · October 30

Katheriah wrote: »

aussie500 wrote: »

But I still resent not getting any rewards for finishing each stage like we usually do with a community event. Our reward is something we have already paid for and we have to go through all three stages to get it, they make us suffer through all these buggy repeating quests, with nothing to really make us enthusiastic to even get to the next stage.

I thought I was unhappy before, but now I remember that we in fact did get awesome stuff in other community events... Thanks...

If you're ruining my day, I'm ruining everyone's day. The previous event rewards were:

The Gold Road Event:
33%— Vineyard Voriplasm pet
66% — Aether-Traveled Varla Stone memento
100%— Russet Brekka mount, Tree-Sap Legion arms pack, and six Nested Reward Boxes containing various in-game treasures

The Necrom Event:
33% Ebony Dwarven Scarab pet
66% Nightmare Nest Body Art and Nightmare Nest Face Art
100% Kelesan'ruhn House

The High Isle Event:
33% Oak’s Promise Markings
66% Plant Yourself Emote
100% Firesong DLC, Hoard Box & Pet

The Blackwood Event:
The Pellucid Swamp Jelly pet, unlocked at 33%
The Shadows of Blackwood markings, unlocked at 66%
The Deadlands DLC and a cascading bounty box, unlocked at 100%

The Greymoor Event:
Tier 1: Horror Within Face and Body Markings
Tier 2: Orchidfall Vale Fawn Pet
Tier 3: Antiquarian’s Alpine Gallery home AND Antiquarian Phedre Houseguest (This is the first Houseguest ever introduced to ESO!)

Guess I'm just gonna cry in a corner somewhere. And then grind to unlock content I paid for.

Actually my favorite was that pathfinder event back in 2019, part of Dragon Rise for Northern Elsweyr

33% — Green Dragon Imp pet
66% — Grim Harvester costume
100% — Dragon's Treasure Trove furniture item + ten special boxes of loot

Saw that Dragon's Treasure Trove, I just had to have it, and we really did not have to do too much to get it, and all that loot we got in those special boxes!

aetherix8 · October 30

Syldras wrote: »

aetherix8 wrote: »

I would prefer we actually hit our 100% grind score before proceeding to the next phase. Can’t imagine having the access earlier, after all this fat and skins and sap… If it turns out all that grind was for nothing and we can just go to the Eastern part, I would stop participating altogether. You can’t tell ppl “you have to grind” just to change your mind when we’re almost there.

Perhaps we have different ideas of "almost". What I see is that half of the servers haven't even reached 50% of the whole thing yet.

Yes, there are another 3 or 4 weeks left to grind the hole in the wall, but that’s a relatively short period if we take into account the time we’ve waited for the entire thing to even begin. The perception of time changes depending on the focus: less focus and time appears to run faster.

Syldras wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Besides the story, what exactly is there to look forward to in Eastern Solstice for veteran players? Collectables? Wow.

For me, it's just the story, although that's not very good either, to be honest. But at least it's still a bit more entertaining than repeating the same dailies for at least 4 weeks.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I get it. You don't like doing the work. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. And I suspect your play ethic is shared by others on your server. Xbox EU players on the other hand, seem to have a different outlook and approach, and it's paying off for them. You don't get to take a bite out of the big juicy apple they managed to grow while you haven't sufficiently watered or nutured your seedling.

Why should customers work - do chores they dislike in a game - to have access to content they paid money for? The whole concept can be questioned.

I don’t think anyone has to work to unlock the content they’ve paid for. There is no way this event can fail and access to East Solstice stays blocked till the next year. That would be very bad for business.
Basically, those who like the grind can participate, and others who find it all too tedious can do smth else, no need to torture oneself, the wall will go down in any case.

Syldras · October 30

aetherix8 wrote: »

Yes, there are another 3 or 4 weeks left to grind the hole in the wall, but that’s a relatively short period if we take into account the time we’ve waited for the entire thing to even begin. The perception of time changes depending on the focus: less focus and time appears to run faster.

And that's why I wrote earlier (or maybe in another related thread) that the whole "event" actually makes it feeling worse than if they had just given us some clear release date in November, since you are reminded of the wait every day now and are supposed to "do" something about it.

I get my 3 boxes each day and ignore the rest, but still it's annoying, especially knowing that the content is already finished, by what people who were on the other side wrote.

Add to that the fact that antiquity dig sites and daily quests for the other side have already spawned for people and they can't do them. Yes, I know, they can rescry, and they can abandon the daily quests, but it's still horrible planning and a problem that could very easily solved by giving us access already (not even through a gap in the Wall, but maybe through one activated wayshrine there) - for people who want to use it to do their questing or antiquity stuff there (if one doesn't want to, one doesn't need to use it and can ignore that until the event is finished normally).

aetherix8 · October 30

Syldras wrote: »

aetherix8 wrote: »

Yes, there are another 3 or 4 weeks left to grind the hole in the wall, but that’s a relatively short period if we take into account the time we’ve waited for the entire thing to even begin. The perception of time changes depending on the focus: less focus and time appears to run faster.

And that's why I wrote earlier (or maybe in another related thread) that the whole "event" actually makes it feeling worse than if they had just given us some clear release date in November, since you are reminded of the wait every day now and are supposed to "do" something about it.

I get my 3 boxes each day and ignore the rest, but still it's annoying, especially knowing that the content is already finished, by what people who were on the other side wrote.

Add to that the fact that antiquity dig sites and daily quests for the other side have already spawned for people and they can't do them. Yes, I know, they can rescry, and they can abandon the daily quests, but it's still horrible planning and a problem that could very easily solved by giving us access already (not even through a gap in the Wall, but maybe through one activated wayshrine there) - for people who want to use it to do their questing or antiquity stuff there (if one doesn't want to, one doesn't need to use it and can ignore that until the event is finished normally).

But if they give us access just so we can pick up our antiquities, the entire 2 weeks grind was for nothing then, and that would really be game breaking. This event is riddled with bugs apparently (I didn’t get any yet), and ofc it was plain missed by the devs that digging sites will spawn on the other side once it is patched and visible, but not yet accessible, which only adds more frustration.

This event is truly historic, once in a lifetime and epic experience on the “what might go wrong” scale. I’m sure there are more surprises awaiting us in phase 2 and 3. Kind of glad I’m participating in this mess tbh.

SilverBride · October 30

I don't know if I will do any more of these dailies. I play to have fun and this isn't fun. I still have several zones that some of my characters haven't completed so there is plenty of content to keep me busy.

I may continue to do the 3 for the gold coffers but I don't know if there is anything I could get that I care enough about to do it any more. I didn't do any of it yesterday.

Turning this event into a competition was a bad idea. There have already been posts judging players whose servers are behind in progress. That does not bring a sense of community.

Syldras · October 30

aetherix8 wrote: »

But if they give us access just so we can pick up our antiquities, the entire 2 weeks grind was for nothing then, and that would really be game breaking.

I rather grind 2 weeks for nothing than grinding 4 weeks for... what exactly? The outcome should be the same: Access to the other side. How is it not better to end the farce sooner?

Illmatic · October 30

Phase 2 without adjustements (new daily quests, ect) is not necessary. 2 weeks + again 2 weeks for the same thing is too much, especially in 2k25 with less ppl on eso.

lillybit · October 30

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

It's disingenuous to say Xbox got there first because they did the work. It got there first because it was balanced that way.

It seems clear to me that the least populated server has had the most help, with EU and NA on each balanced about the same. I'm currently playing on both PC and PS and there appears to be many more people on camps on PC, yet they're behind.

Emeratis · October 30

Katheriah wrote: »

aussie500 wrote: »

But I still resent not getting any rewards for finishing each stage like we usually do with a community event. Our reward is something we have already paid for and we have to go through all three stages to get it, they make us suffer through all these buggy repeating quests, with nothing to really make us enthusiastic to even get to the next stage.

I thought I was unhappy before, but now I remember that we in fact did get awesome stuff in other community events... Thanks...

If you're ruining my day, I'm ruining everyone's day. The previous event rewards were:

The Gold Road Event:
33%— Vineyard Voriplasm pet
66% — Aether-Traveled Varla Stone memento
100%— Russet Brekka mount, Tree-Sap Legion arms pack, and six Nested Reward Boxes containing various in-game treasures

The Necrom Event:
33% Ebony Dwarven Scarab pet
66% Nightmare Nest Body Art and Nightmare Nest Face Art
100% Kelesan'ruhn House

The High Isle Event:
33% Oak’s Promise Markings
66% Plant Yourself Emote
100% Firesong DLC, Hoard Box & Pet

The Blackwood Event:
The Pellucid Swamp Jelly pet, unlocked at 33%
The Shadows of Blackwood markings, unlocked at 66%
The Deadlands DLC and a cascading bounty box, unlocked at 100%

The Greymoor Event:
Tier 1: Horror Within Face and Body Markings
Tier 2: Orchidfall Vale Fawn Pet
Tier 3: Antiquarian’s Alpine Gallery home AND Antiquarian Phedre Houseguest (This is the first Houseguest ever introduced to ESO!)

Guess I'm just gonna cry in a corner somewhere. And then grind to unlock content I paid for.

We also had the original/first event of that type, Summerfall, which granted us:
33% — Psijic Mascot Pony pet
66% — Psijic Escort Charger mount
100% — Grand Psijic Villa player house

That also isn't counting minor rewards like attunable crafting stations, target dummies, and other various things in loot bundles that we got with those events for progress.

I'm trying to withhold my feedback til after the event, but I'm very frustrated with this event as well so far for the same reasons many are mentioning.

Edit: also Elsweyr's yearly event

licenturion · October 30

lillybit wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

It's disingenuous to say Xbox got there first because they did the work. It got there first because it was balanced that way.

It seems clear to me that the least populated server has had the most help, with EU and NA on each balanced about the same. I'm currently playing on both PC and PS and there appears to be many more people on camps on PC, yet they're behind.

Yeah. We should have gotten the raw target numbers for each server and then you could see how skewed or balanced things are.

Also is it really surprising Xbox gets there first? The Microsoft first party gaming platform wins the race in a game by a Microsoft owned company. Who would have thought eh. I saw this one coming the day before the event started.

spartaxoxo · October 30

lillybit wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

It's disingenuous to say Xbox got there first because they did the work. It got there first because it was balanced that way.

It seems clear to me that the least populated server has had the most help, with EU and NA on each balanced about the same. I'm currently playing on both PC and PS and there appears to be many more people on camps on PC, yet they're behind.

If they made it all percentage based then it would be based on activity.

Like if they expected 30% of each server's population to get gold boxes, then that would be the only way to keep it fair based on different populations. If PC-NA only had 20% of it's people participating while XBOX EU had 40% then XBOX would win easily due to greater participation.

lillybit · October 30

licenturion wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

It's disingenuous to say Xbox got there first because they did the work. It got there first because it was balanced that way.

It seems clear to me that the least populated server has had the most help, with EU and NA on each balanced about the same. I'm currently playing on both PC and PS and there appears to be many more people on camps on PC, yet they're behind.

Yeah. We should have gotten the raw target numbers for each server and then you could see how skewed or balanced things are.

Also is it really surprising Xbox gets there first? The Microsoft first party gaming platform wins the race in a game by a Microsoft owned company. Who would have thought eh. I saw this one coming the day before the event started.

I'd be surprised if that was the reason, I just don't think they did very well with the individual balancing

drip_fromtheinkwell · October 30

lillybit wrote: »

licenturion wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

We have been working on it. All that should matter now is that phase 1 was completed. So reward the server that "won the race" as @jle30303 suggested and advance everyone else forward to the next phase.

Real life races end when the first person crosses the finish line. This should, too.

But nobody's hit the finsih line yet. The race is to bring down the wall which happens at Phase 3. Xbox EU would probably have some choice words if when they hit Phase 2, suddenly all the other servers were now tied with them.

Want to get to the end sooner? Rally your server to get there faster.

I can't rally them if I can't even rally myself. I have tried. I did a lot more yesterday than I had been and the tedium was just too much.

And phase 1 has been completed so we should all be advanced to phase 2.

And yet Xbox EU players continue to try, and succeed. There's no reason all servers should advance to phase 2 just because you can't bring yourself to measure up to the same level.

Phase 1 on Xbox EU has completed. Phase 1 on your server has not, so you should not be advanced to phase 2. Your server will get there. Just not as quickly.

It's disingenuous to say Xbox got there first because they did the work. It got there first because it was balanced that way.

It seems clear to me that the least populated server has had the most help, with EU and NA on each balanced about the same. I'm currently playing on both PC and PS and there appears to be many more people on camps on PC, yet they're behind.

Yeah. We should have gotten the raw target numbers for each server and then you could see how skewed or balanced things are.

Also is it really surprising Xbox gets there first? The Microsoft first party gaming platform wins the race in a game by a Microsoft owned company. Who would have thought eh. I saw this one coming the day before the event started.

I'd be surprised if that was the reason, I just don't think they did very well with the individual balancing

that's almost certainly the case-- probably not totally on purpose, but certainly something that really ought to be looked at for phase 2. It's kind of ridiculous; I see similar numbers of players at the central camp between NA and EU, but NA is so far behind that it's become demoralizing.

katanagirl1 · October 31

Last week I would have said, sure open it up, the cat’s out of the bag and everything so why not. The dailies were getting old.

Then I logged in this week and there was a new quest. My first reaction was relief that there was something else to do, then I was immediately hit with the sinking feeling that it would be a lot more stuff to do. I wanted more zone content but at the same time I am so sick of this zone. I have never felt this way about the game before.

I just don’t care anymore. They’ve held the content I paid for hostage for too long now. I just want to complete it and never set foot in this zone ever again.