Should access to East Solstice be granted immediately?

Syldras

With all the problems there are now - antiquity leads and daily quests sending you to still inaccessible East Solstice, people accidentally respawning at East Solstice wayshrines or ending up there when fast-travelling to guildmates - should access to East Solstice be enabled now?

In practice that would mean opening the gap in the Wall near the main camp for everyone; and, ideally, forwarding the quest stage of "Crossing the Wall" (Solstice main quest part #6) to that point where we're told the Meridian Lens is ready and can be fired to destroy the Wall. Which is the official way to progress the main quest to the next part that takes place on the other side.

The event quests can still remain for a few weeks, of course, for people who want to do them and get the style pages and other rewards.

Opinions?

Soarora

IMO, skip phase 2 entirely, we’re almost to phase 3 anyways. I’m presuming phase 3 is just the one activity and thus people could do it once and gain access to the other side? I hope?

And learn from the endless mistakes made during this event.

colossalvoids

Absolutely agree, there's no need to prolong the pain, community already made their minds on the event and no fixes would salvage it. Just make it accessible asap when some people still care and have the mood.

Grafahel

I mean I like the idea they were going for, but progress seems a bit slow. Of course it doesn't help that people don't seem too interested in the event quests (I'm only doing the crafting ones myself). It would probably be a good idea to set the bar for progress a lot lower on the next phases so that people don't lose interest, and I hope we get more interesting quests to do. I was hoping for some big battles like dolmens/incursions just dropping almost constantly.

daim

Keep the original plan. I don't get it why people are so annoyed to wait a few days.

Oblivion_Protocol

daim wrote: »

Keep the original plan. I don't get it why people are so annoyed to wait a few days.

Because the event was poorly done and people just want to get to the part of it already, rather than having to deal with issues that can be solved by just opening the wall now.

DaveMoeDee

Would be nice to require the progression in the event, but appearing there through a bug is annoying.

I don't know what quests people are talking about being there. If they are story quests, fine. But if they are dailies or some other repetitive filler quests, that is a problem if those are blocking completable variants.

DaveMoeDee

As someone who stopped doing the event quests because they were making me want to quit the game, I would like to just get access to East Solstice when I finished the first half.

These kinds of events really suck the fun out of gaming.

Syldras

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

I don't know what quests people are talking about being there. If they are story quests, fine. But if they are dailies or some other repetitive filler quests, that is a problem if those are blocking completable variants.

Some of the dailies one gets in Sunport take place in East Solstice. These have been enabled yesterday with update 48 despite having no access to the new region for at minimum 2 weeks now. Also, some antiquity dig sites show up in East Solstice now - same problem.

spartaxoxo

No. I invested the time to do the dailies and want to see it pay off properly at this point. I hope they learn from future events not to drag things out this much but the event has been going on too long to turn back now imo.

Onomos

Yes. This whole server competition idea is one of the worst ideas ZOS has ever come up with.

DenverRalphy

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No. I invested the time to do the dailies and want to see it pay off properly at this point. I hope they learn from future events not to drag things out this much but the event has been going on too long to turn back now imo.

^^^^---- This.
I can get past having to abandon dailies for the day. And antiquities needing to be abandoned and re-scried until RNG lands it back on the Western side, while unfortunate, gets around the issue.

The event needs to play out. Is the event poorly designed? Sure. Are the players moderately frustraded? You betcha. But ZOS needs to let it play out. The backlash over a failure to commit would be a nightmare.

tom6143346

The biggest problem is the event is not fun the event quest are not fun, that’s why progress slows down even more with every day . Me and a lot of people I know completely stope doing them. We just grab the 3 golden one and move on or logg out . Same with the Halloween quest. Way to repetitive

LunaFlora

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No. I invested the time to do the dailies and want to see it pay off properly at this point. I hope they learn from future events not to drag things out this much but the event has been going on too long to turn back now imo.

agreed. i wanna see it through to the end.

Destai

Absolutely.

I can appreciate the sentiment behind this event, and commend those who put in a lot of work to realize their vision. I just don't think this landed how many hoped it would've. I'd have prefer just to start from Phase 3 as the event, and then get into the expansion.

Hopefully a different approach is attempted next time.

Syldras

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No. I invested the time to do the dailies and want to see it pay off properly at this point. I hope they learn from future events not to drag things out this much but the event has been going on too long to turn back now imo.

"Properly" would have meant that phase 2 adds a few new crafting dailies and one new world boss. They already said the world boss can't spawn before update 48 drops, which means console players still have to wait until at earliest November 12 for that. Phase 3 adds the Writhing Fortress. That's it. Generally, the two upcoming phases provide almost no new content.

Katheriah

tom6143346 wrote: »

The biggest problem is the event is not fun the event quest are not fun, that’s why progress slows down even more with every day . Me and a lot of people I know completely stope doing them. We just grab the 3 golden one and move on or logg out . Same with the Halloween quest. Way to repetitive

Yeah. First day I did all quests on my main + all crafting on 19 alts.

It's just not fun, not rewarding enough and then they started to roll back the percentage so I was like 'hell to the nah'. Now I just get my 3 golden coffers and I'm off to do something else.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really wish it was fun. I'm willing to grind, but not this.

Rkindaleft

I'm a console main and won't have access to the other part of the zone for another 2 weeks regardless so I don't have an opinion on this either way - but considering how much they hyped up this event, for it to be 90% boring fetch quests, with poor quest item drop rates and lacking rewards (although in fairness, you have attempted to remedy this somewhat), in combination with the new issues where the daily quest givers are giving quests for the 2nd half of the zone that aren't completable, and antiquity leads requiring you to re-scry a bunch in order to get ones that are, this whole event and zone have been a huge flop so far.

tom6143346

Katheriah wrote: »

tom6143346 wrote: »

The biggest problem is the event is not fun the event quest are not fun, that’s why progress slows down even more with every day . Me and a lot of people I know completely stope doing them. We just grab the 3 golden one and move on or logg out . Same with the Halloween quest. Way to repetitive

Yeah. First day I did all quests on my main + all crafting on 19 alts.

It's just not fun, not rewarding enough and then they started to roll back the percentage so I was like 'hell to the nah'. Now I just get my 3 golden coffers and I'm off to do something else.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really wish it was fun. I'm willing to grind, but not this.

I agree it feels like nonsense grind, to splitt it even in 3 phases was not a good decision as well. At least with this bad rewards. There is no reason to do more than the bare minimum tbh. At this point it’s more fun to go for the leads of one of this antiquities where you need 15 leads 🤷🏻‍♂️ And they are not fun as well

Carcamongus

The quests are repetitive and the ones to gather ingredients are outright vile in forcing players to compete with one another. NPC dialogues are also repetitive, to the point I have to take a deep breath before doing the crafting dailies for that Nord for whom the steaks are high (smoked beef, maybe?). I'm curious to visit Eastern Solstice, but if the wait goes on for too long, I wonder how many people will just shrug and lose interest. So yes, access to the content we paid for should be granted right away. I'm sure some explanation can be found for how people got across despite the wall being up. I mean, some people did indeed get across already (I hope they don't get banned).

Besides, the big evil wall is quite beautiful and I'm sure to miss it.

metheglyn

I'm not sure. I mean, I'm barely engaged in the event, and all the bugs that cropped up the past couple days doesn't fill me with confidence that phases 2 and 3 will have a smooth rollout (I'm on PCNA, so still in phase one which, blah, boring as all get out).

But others probably want to experience the full event, and it might not be well received if ZOS did cut it short.

I'd love to get into the story content as soon as possible; this grindy event just isn't doing it for me.

Syldras

metheglyn wrote: »

I'm not sure. I mean, I'm barely engaged in the event, and all the bugs that cropped up the past couple days doesn't fill me with confidence that phases 2 and 3 will have a smooth rollout (I'm on PCNA, so still in phase one which, blah, boring as all get out).
But others probably want to experience the full event, and it might not be well received if ZOS did cut it short.
I'd love to get into the story content as soon as possible; this grindy event just isn't doing it for me.

As I wrote in the original post, I don't ask to end the event, I just suggest to open up the gap in the Wall that's supposed to normally open when the first people have defeated the final boss in the Writhing Fortress (at the beginning of phase 3), so people who want can already pass to the other side and do their questing there (or get to the antiquity site they scried).

Also, main quest part 6 should be set as being completable for people who already want to continue the questline. I think this needs to be progressed manually, to make the next dialogue option show up (basically someone telling you the Meridian Lens is powerful enough now - I think the prince it was - who gets a questmarker at some point and informs you about that then).

Both these things are possible while the event remains active. On PTS both was running paralelly with no issues. It also doesn't affect visuals - the Wall doesn't fall before you activate the Meridian Lens at the end of quest #6. So it's individual for every player and people who don't want to get to that point yet, can just continue the event normally and don't need to do that.

Gabriel_H

No.

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

daim wrote: »

Keep the original plan. I don't get it why people are so annoyed to wait a few days.

Because the event was poorly done and people just want to get to the part of it already, rather than having to deal with issues that can be solved by just opening the wall now.

Right, because we all trust ZOS to skip a massive part of code with no consequences.

metheglyn

Syldras wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

I'm not sure. I mean, I'm barely engaged in the event, and all the bugs that cropped up the past couple days doesn't fill me with confidence that phases 2 and 3 will have a smooth rollout (I'm on PCNA, so still in phase one which, blah, boring as all get out).
But others probably want to experience the full event, and it might not be well received if ZOS did cut it short.
I'd love to get into the story content as soon as possible; this grindy event just isn't doing it for me.

As I wrote in the original post, I don't ask to end the event, I just suggest to open up the gap in the Wall that's supposed to normally open when the first people have defeated the final boss in the Writhing Fortress (at the beginning of phase 3), so people who want can already pass to the other side and do their questing there (or get to the antiquity site they scried).

Also, main quest part 6 should be set as being completable for people who already want to continue the questline. I think this needs to be progressed manually, to make the next dialogue option show up (basically someone telling you the Meridian Lens is powerful enough now - I think the prince it was - who gets a questmarker at some point and informs you about that then).

Both these things are possible while the event remains active. On PTS both was running paralelly with no issues. It also doesn't affect visuals - the Wall doesn't fall before you activate the Meridian Lens at the end of quest #6. So it's individual for every player and people who don't want to get to that point yet, can just continue the event normally and don't need to do that.

Well, if they could do that without ending the event, then sure. I can pretend my character snuck over and then he won't have to fuss with the Writhing Fortress, either. (Am not looking forward to that part).

agelonestar

I don’t know who planned this event - or the mess that has been Season Pass 2025 - but they might as well can the whole thing and let us into the zone we paid for.

It’s not like it’s huge or anything. It’s even smaller than the “half” of Solstice we already got.

As I have said many times…… total waste of money.

Syldras

metheglyn wrote: »

Well, if they could do that without ending the event, then sure. I can pretend my character snuck over and then he won't have to fuss with the Writhing Fortress, either. (Am not looking forward to that part).

It should be possible. I'm really just about that gap in the wall I've already seen on PTS, to get access to the other side (locations and quest content). The rest of the event can remain the way it is, for people who like it.

I'll probably run the Fortress once. It's hard to say how it plays out with a bigger number of players, as on PTS we there were never enough people around to simulate that situation.

Gabriel_H

agelonestar wrote: »

It’s not like it’s huge or anything. It’s even smaller than the “half” of Solstice we already got.

Map size =/= Content size

blktauna

Syldras wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

I don't know what quests people are talking about being there. If they are story quests, fine. But if they are dailies or some other repetitive filler quests, that is a problem if those are blocking completable variants.

Some of the dailies one gets in Sunport take place in East Solstice. These have been enabled yesterday with update 48 despite having no access to the new region for at minimum 2 weeks now. Also, some antiquity dig sites show up in East Solstice now - same problem.

I have 2 pieces of monomyth behind the wall and its impeding my progress greatly

blktauna

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I can get past having to abandon dailies for the day. And antiquities needing to be abandoned and re-scried until RNG lands it back on the Western side, while unfortunate, gets around the issue.

How do you rescry? The lead shows as in progress. And I'm sure as H not regetting those leads...

DenverRalphy

blktauna wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

I don't know what quests people are talking about being there. If they are story quests, fine. But if they are dailies or some other repetitive filler quests, that is a problem if those are blocking completable variants.

Some of the dailies one gets in Sunport take place in East Solstice. These have been enabled yesterday with update 48 despite having no access to the new region for at minimum 2 weeks now. Also, some antiquity dig sites show up in East Solstice now - same problem.

I have 2 pieces of monomyth behind the wall and its impeding my progress greatly

Abandon and re scry until RNG places the digsite on the West side of the wall.

spartaxoxo

blktauna wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I can get past having to abandon dailies for the day. And antiquities needing to be abandoned and re-scried until RNG lands it back on the Western side, while unfortunate, gets around the issue.

How do you rescry? The lead shows as in progress. And I'm sure as H not regetting those leads...

You don't have to reacquire the lead if you abandon it. It only abandons the scrying process. So you'll have to play the scrying mini game again but that's it.