Vengeance – An Unsustainable False Positive

Marto · September 14

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Do people realize how delusional it is to think there is any possibility that ZOS would support two different versions of cyrodiil at the same time? It's going to be one or the other. ZOS is actively working on vengeance mode rather than working on fixing any issues with current live mode. So it's very confusing trying to understand why this so obvious reality is not sinking in with those promoting vengeance. It's going to be one or the other at some point, and ZOS is not investing time or money into their current live mode. This isn't rocket science to see what's happening.

Everyone who's going to PvP is already doing so. PvE players aren't going to backfill the PvP population for vengeance mode.

Vengeance can get content updates, map changes, extra mechanics, or other things, but regular Cyrodiil will never again get content updates. Ever.

Rich Lambert was pretty transparent about this on his livestreams. The reason why Cyrodiil didn't get any content all these years is the poor performance.

Some of you may remember that new weapons were datamined to be released after Volendruung, like Spellbreaker and Auriel's Bow. And even the announcement for Volendruung was worded in a way that hinted at future updates. But the performance damage caused by Eric Wrobel's proc sets, destructible bridges/gates, and Volendruung caused ZOS to press the pause button on all updates.

But if Vengeance manages to improve performance enough, that gives ZOS good ground to build upon.

Vengeance is sustainable. Old Cyrodiil isn't.

StihlReign · September 14

Marto wrote: »

Rich Lambert was pretty transparent about this on his livestreams. The reason why Cyrodiil didn't get any content all these years is the poor performance.

Soo...the guy who loaded up the game with troll sets and skills has the answers to 'fix' PvP?

Interesting.

SaffronCitrusflower · September 14

Marto wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Do people realize how delusional it is to think there is any possibility that ZOS would support two different versions of cyrodiil at the same time? It's going to be one or the other. ZOS is actively working on vengeance mode rather than working on fixing any issues with current live mode. So it's very confusing trying to understand why this so obvious reality is not sinking in with those promoting vengeance. It's going to be one or the other at some point, and ZOS is not investing time or money into their current live mode. This isn't rocket science to see what's happening.

Everyone who's going to PvP is already doing so. PvE players aren't going to backfill the PvP population for vengeance mode.

Vengeance can get content updates, map changes, extra mechanics, or other things, but regular Cyrodiil will never again get content updates. Ever.

Rich Lambert was pretty transparent about this on his livestreams. The reason why Cyrodiil didn't get any content all these years is the poor performance.

Some of you may remember that new weapons were datamined to be released after Volendruung, like Spellbreaker and Auriel's Bow. And even the announcement for Volendruung was worded in a way that hinted at future updates. But the performance damage caused by Eric Wrobel's proc sets, destructible bridges/gates, and Volendruung caused ZOS to press the pause button on all updates.

But if Vengeance manages to improve performance enough, that gives ZOS good ground to build upon.

Vengeance is sustainable. Old Cyrodiil isn't.

You mean the guy with tha parrot on his shoulder in this video?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSm4fhve2DAxUnAjQIHX93CD0QwqsBegQIDxAG&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrLS3ROGw_A&usg=AOvVaw0Mc6JFPoiF_DempzeYG1cK&opi=89978449

Virtually nothing ZOS has said about the future of PvP or what they're doing to fix it has made it to live. That's the opposite of transparency.

Vengeance IS NOT sustainable. Live cyrodiil with performance and higher pop caps IS sustainable. We know because we've seen it before in the past. ZOS can fix live cyrodiil if they made the commitment to make it happen.