Please communicate with us ZOS. This is a major update.

silver1surfer69

Did you mention that there are over 3000 combinations?

xylena_lazarow

silver1surfer69 wrote: »

Did you mention that there are over 3000 combinations?

3000 combinations, but all of them use the Nightblade Assassin tree.

Stx

How they let Assassination go live for subclassing like this is crazy.

tomofhyrule

tomofhyrule wrote: »

My big fear about the communication we're gonna get for this is that they're going to give us one of their "deep dive"s for Subclassing that ends up being a huge marketing thing and ends up addressing zero of the players' actual concerns with it.

*sigh*

Even the Systems Designers are saying that "players can drop their tank and support skill lines for more damage-dealing abilities and passives," seemingly forgetting that 4 of the current 7 classes have lines that are not strictly defined by role. They say "there is no desire to reduce the effectiveness of pure classes," and yet we've already seen nerfs and there is no way a pure class will ever be able to measure up to any Subclassed build.
(even the "lol all pets" picture has 6 summons, meaning that that Blastbones would not have been summonable in PvP. And can we also get annoyed that the coloring on the summoned Blastbones implies it's the OG Blastbones and not the Blighted morph?)

They tell us that "[c]lass identity is still important for key aspects of our game," so we're still barred from specific fashions because someone decided that only born-Templars can have close-faced helms. They tell us "there are balance concerns, but the team is prepared for what may come," when they have addressed none of the concerns that were presented on PTS from the testing cycle. They tell us "[w]e will be looking at feedback as always," when we have seen no evidence of them having looked at any feedback at all.

icapital

am I shocked that we don't have a single response from any dev or CM in this thread?

no.

am I disappointed in the lack of communication?

yes.

The_Meathead

Stx wrote: »

How they let Assassination go live for subclassing like this is crazy.

That's the canary in the mineshaft sign to me, too.

It's absolutely bonkers and illustrates that PvP in particular has been given absolutely no concern or care with what's coming on Tuesday.

xylena_lazarow

tomofhyrule wrote: »

4 of the current 7 classes have lines that are not strictly defined by role

What bothers me is how they high prioritized Nightblade in this respect a year ago, and keep iterating on and buffing Nightblade while it gets more obnoxious in PvP. Meanwhile, all Sorc gets is for its passives to be haphazardly shuffled around just to preserve horrible pet mechanics, and the other classes with mixed trees don't even get looked at.

Theignson

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

4 of the current 7 classes have lines that are not strictly defined by role

What bothers me is how they high prioritized Nightblade in this respect a year ago, and keep iterating on and buffing Nightblade while it gets more obnoxious in PvP. Meanwhile, all Sorc gets is for its passives to be haphazardly shuffled around just to preserve horrible pet mechanics, and the other classes with mixed trees don't even get looked at.

Xy you have generously shared your DK build in the past. Will you use the same build or add Assassination line? I agree PvP solo player faces hard choices in this patch. Most NB for example will not want to lose cloak, so could only drop one skill line. But that would mean losing Healthy Offering. You must have at least one defensive skill line. I know many players including you have been testing this for months, would love to hear your thoughts.

xylena_lazarow

Theignson wrote: »

Xy you have generously shared your DK build in the past. Will you use the same build or add Assassination line? I agree PvP solo player faces hard choices in this patch ... I know many players including you have been testing this for months, would love to hear your thoughts.

I tested dozens of combos but tl;dr it's very close to my u45 DK trading Fossilize for Streak, can go into more detail in whatever build threads pop up next week or you can dm me. Assassination isn't mandatory, it's very single target, I remain confident in my AoE pressure strat based around Talons, as it's also winning a decent amount of duels here.

silky_soft

Yea even a CM saying they will pass it on haha.