ITT: Things you're not sure why are still in the game

Mavloc

Example: Eyebrow Skew in Character creation.

Just give me straight symmetrical eyebrows. Wtf.

Mik195

Why are plunder skulls Slottable items? Is there a fun opening plunder skulls dance I've missed?

Why hasn't horse training been simplified? Hello new player, you'll have a fully upgraded mount in about 6 months. At least login rewards make it slightly less painful. There are enough zones now that running everywhere would be annoying.

Destai

My biggest one is horse training. Would be nice if I could buy it all in one go.

Vonnegut2506

Non-stacking treasure maps still existing just boggles my mind.

freespirit

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

Non-stacking treasure maps still existing just boggles my mind.

It's not even that they don't stack, it's the fact you can only have ONE of each type in your inventory and your bank!!

AND with the new mail system if you have one of the six maps in your inventory it will NOT let you take the other five!

Absolutely ridiculous!!!

Renato90085

pvp mode still cant see other player ping and reconnect

fizzylu

Players.

Joking, jokingggg (just a bit). I guess I'll say crown store/crate items like soul gems, repair kits, vamp/werewolf "bites", etc.... you know, basic things you can very easily get without spending a cash currency or it's free equivalent despite how much Zenimax tries to reason their existence.

moderatelyfatman

Those silly side pieces on character armor.

Thumbless_Bot

Slaughterfish. Just make invisible barriers. I like to explore every inch of every map. It's less peaceful when I have to worry about that. I would say the same for cyro. No one cares if someone is trying to be evasive by swimming across The Niben River.

MrGarlic

Why can't I vendor 'laurel' to a merchant? I have to destroy it.

SeaGtGruff

If surveys can be stacked, it seems like treasure maps should stack, too. I'm not talking about programming and database logistics, I'm talking about lore and immersion. I mean, how is it logical that you can get a survey for a location where there's an outcropping of ore (or whatever), go harvest it, ride off a little ways, turn around and ride back, and find the outcropping fully replenished as though you hadn't just harvested it a minute earlier? How does being able to do the same thing with a treasure map break immersion or logic or whatever, in any sort of way that surveys do not? And besides, you can dig up the same treasure map multiple times if you retrieve another copy of it from your bank or your storage coffers, so that basically destroys the point of not letting them stack (if there is a point).

Runeboxes should also stack, IMO.

Finedaible

The mount training time-gate is such a bad look to potential new players. There is literally no positives to the gameplay experience by having this. I'd like to see the cooldown removed and just let players spend all the gold at once to max it out if they wish. They could leave crown mount training upgrades for the whales who can't be bothered to get gold.

Any race, any alliance upgrade. Why is this even a thing in an Elder Scrolls title? Remove this restriction as well.

Hidden drop cooldowns on coffers. Either remove cooldown, come up with a more logical system, or explicitly state the hidden cooldowns for the players on the coffer's description. The recent change to a daily reset deadline helped some, but there are still many different cooldowns between coffer rewards with no mention of their restrictions anywhere.

Identical, non-stackable items like Runeboxes. Just why? Stop with the unnecessary inventory bloat. I get that they want to sell assistants and ESO+, but even with those inventory management gets absurd without addons. Unsalable items like common furnishings from antiquities annoy me as well when I just want to get rid of them; this only makes sense for anything that was purchased from the crown store.

New "Treasure" items with each update. It's just more inventory bloat, give us straight gold instead.

Personofsecrets

Pounce and Profit / Grand Larceny.

wolfie1.0.

Fragments listed as if I never collected all of them when I already have the item and am unable to make another.

Necrotech_Master

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

If surveys can be stacked, it seems like treasure maps should stack, too. I'm not talking about programming and database logistics, I'm talking about lore and immersion. I mean, how is it logical that you can get a survey for a location where there's an outcropping of ore (or whatever), go harvest it, ride off a little ways, turn around and ride back, and find the outcropping fully replenished as though you hadn't just harvested it a minute earlier? How does being able to do the same thing with a treasure map break immersion or logic or whatever, in any sort of way that surveys do not? And besides, you can dig up the same treasure map multiple times if you retrieve another copy of it from your bank or your storage coffers, so that basically destroys the point of not letting them stack (if there is a point).

Runeboxes should also stack, IMO.

runeboxes are quite different from surveys/maps in that they are considered containers and you cant even store or bank them lol

it would be nice to let containers stack but thats a different challenge from maps lol

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Jewelry Trait stones still have a dust form. Should have been converted to only stones along with the Tempers!

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Base Game outfit styles, they are an eyesore among all the high-quality styles ZOS has released

BlueRaven

I have to say, none of these improvements I really agree with.

Eyescew can be used creatively, especially when paired with a smirk.

Stacking treasure maps does not make sense narratively.

And I think the mount training adds needed narrative flavor, I still remember when we had to train each mount individually.

If anything I would like to add a mass mailing feature for guild leaders, and that is about it.

Mavloc

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Base Game outfit styles, they are an eyesore among all the high-quality styles ZOS has released

I have to agree that some textures should get their resolution increased.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

PVP

Taril

Experience only contributing to the currently active weapon set and bar of skills. Simply makes little sense and its only purpose is seemingly to make it really annoying to level up skills and skill lines for... Reasons.

Shared Resource/Chest/Strongbox/Thieves Trove spawns. Most other sources of loot (Such as corpses, containers, pickpocketing) are unique to players. But those specific things still provide competition between players in order to obtain. With little reasoning for that (Perhaps artifical scarcity on resources such as alchemy ingredients?)

Daily caps for Fence usage. Many years ago when it was first introduced, sure it made some sense as it was one of the more profitable ventures available at the time. Nowadays, when you have things like Scrying where you can continuously dig up 100g + 1000g antiquities forever... Farming for longer grabbing mostly 40g loot to sell to a fence is insignificant (Even with maxed out additional fence profit skills).

Guild Traders. I understand their intent and their overall contribution to the economy. But it leans towards a sellers market in regards to guilds with the better trader locations make more money and can charge more because it's more annoying as a buyer to go elsewhere (Especially when actually shopping around means running through every zone and checking every trader for the best prices). I'd have thought that they would have switched to a buyers market by now, via creating a global market (So everyone has equal opportunity to sell) and removing the need to be in a guild to sell things (Creating a larger pool of item availability).

Necrotech_Master

Taril wrote: »

Experience only contributing to the currently active weapon set and bar of skills. Simply makes little sense and its only purpose is seemingly to make it really annoying to level up skills and skill lines for... Reasons.

Shared Resource/Chest/Strongbox/Thieves Trove spawns. Most other sources of loot (Such as corpses, containers, pickpocketing) are unique to players. But those specific things still provide competition between players in order to obtain. With little reasoning for that (Perhaps artifical scarcity on resources such as alchemy ingredients?)

Daily caps for Fence usage. Many years ago when it was first introduced, sure it made some sense as it was one of the more profitable ventures available at the time. Nowadays, when you have things like Scrying where you can continuously dig up 100g + 1000g antiquities forever... Farming for longer grabbing mostly 40g loot to sell to a fence is insignificant (Even with maxed out additional fence profit skills).

Guild Traders. I understand their intent and their overall contribution to the economy. But it leans towards a sellers market in regards to guilds with the better trader locations make more money and can charge more because it's more annoying as a buyer to go elsewhere (Especially when actually shopping around means running through every zone and checking every trader for the best prices). I'd have thought that they would have switched to a buyers market by now, via creating a global market (So everyone has equal opportunity to sell) and removing the need to be in a guild to sell things (Creating a larger pool of item availability).

i would agree with the fence caps, it feels kind of restricting right now

in 2 hours running some vet trials i can make about 15k gold from a single trial run because of the 1000g undaunted plunders, which usually get like 15 of them across all the boss kills

i still generally make more gold selling stuff on guild stores as a primary source of profit since i only do trials a couple days a week

edit to add: on the point of the guild traders, it is definitely not a sellers market right now, mostly due to prices being lower, prices likely drastically increase if there was a central market because of people manipulating the market (monopolizing resources, etc), the current market isnt the most convenient, but it is definitely better for the buyer right now because it limits market manipulation

HatchetHaro

Stacked surveys should respawn the nodes immediately after all six nodes are collected. Having to run out of render range and then back in to refresh the survey multiple times is so incredibly mind-numbing that it just makes me want to never do them ever again.

Taril

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

edit to add: on the point of the guild traders, it is definitely not a sellers market right now, mostly due to prices being lower, prices likely drastically increase if there was a central market because of people manipulating the market (monopolizing resources, etc), the current market isnt the most convenient, but it is definitely better for the buyer right now because it limits market manipulation

It's still the sellers market. One only needs to check the prices of things at different traders.

Prices get significantly lower the more out of the way the trader is. Because sellers can inflate their prices due to positioning.

Prices would not drastically increase with a central market because there would be vastly more competition. Maybe some people who've got many millions of gold from exploiting the sellers market for 10 years would be able to buy everything and raise the prices... But what always happens is that this doesn't last long as it's about what people are willing to buy.

If people aren't willing to buy things for the higher prices NOW when it's more locally priced (Thus, easier to monopolize particular locations), why would they pay higher prices when tons of people will be undercutting for faster sales of the same items?

There's already complaints about how the 2x resources events tanks prices because it floods the market with more people trying to sell lower to get quick sales (Shifting things towards a buyers market). Haivng more access to items through all sellers selling in the same location (As well as guildless players being able to sell things) would further exacerbate that.

AngryPenguin

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

PVP

ESO is designed with PvP as being the original end game activity and has as much or more to offer than PvE activities.

tsaescishoeshiner

Crown Soul Gems.

Soul gems used to be leveled, so you couldn't use a level 17 soul gem on a max-level character. But you could with Crown Soul Gems, making them special.

Now, we don't need them, but we get them from Daily Rewards, and they don't stack with regular soul gems, which are worth 30 gold each anyway. We don't get Crown Dreugh Wax from Daily Rewards, so these should be changed to regular soul gems that stack.

Necrotech_Master

Taril wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

edit to add: on the point of the guild traders, it is definitely not a sellers market right now, mostly due to prices being lower, prices likely drastically increase if there was a central market because of people manipulating the market (monopolizing resources, etc), the current market isnt the most convenient, but it is definitely better for the buyer right now because it limits market manipulation

It's still the sellers market. One only needs to check the prices of things at different traders.

Prices get significantly lower the more out of the way the trader is. Because sellers can inflate their prices due to positioning.

Prices would not drastically increase with a central market because there would be vastly more competition. Maybe some people who've got many millions of gold from exploiting the sellers market for 10 years would be able to buy everything and raise the prices... But what always happens is that this doesn't last long as it's about what people are willing to buy.

If people aren't willing to buy things for the higher prices NOW when it's more locally priced (Thus, easier to monopolize particular locations), why would they pay higher prices when tons of people will be undercutting for faster sales of the same items?

There's already complaints about how the 2x resources events tanks prices because it floods the market with more people trying to sell lower to get quick sales (Shifting things towards a buyers market). Haivng more access to items through all sellers selling in the same location (As well as guildless players being able to sell things) would further exacerbate that.

prices would absolutely not be lower in a central market, ive already seen it happen in games with a central market where an item would get monopolized overnight and its price would shoot up 1000x what it previously was worth

how would you like it if you were trying to buy say dreugh wax, but the price was 125k per wax because someone went and bought up every unit and relisted it for that? you cant do that in the current market mostly due to the sheer quantity of guild traders. a situation like that could absolutely happen (and probably would) in a central market

market manipulators have to do a lot of work to even marginally influence the price on something through trackers like TTC, but if it was central, they wouldnt even have to move and could almost fully automate their practice

not to mention the server strain of trying to load the entire games worth of items being listed, its already incredibly slow loading even a single populated guild store and perform a search on it (yes im sure it could probably be optimized, but im talking about how the game works right now)

TX12001rwb17_ESO

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

PVP

ESO is designed with PvP as being the original end game activity and has as much or more to offer than PvE activities.

And what exactly does it have to offer? the truth is ZOS made the right choice to move away from PvP.

Northwold

Cadwell's Silver and Gold (unless they were finally revised so they actually make sense in the post-One Tamriel world alongside the revisions to the new player experience).

alpha_synuclein

Style materials for crafting gear.
With the outfit system available for everyone we can look how we want regardless of what we wear. If style materials are only being used for master writs and making furniture, why not make them a housing only feature?

DinoZavr

i wonder why treasure maps, crafting surveys, and provisioning recipes share an icon?
is it that hard to make them unique visually distinguishable icons, or, at the vey least color them differently?