Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
If one did not pay for easly acces, how come it was so widely adverticed?
I dont get it.
Let's make it really simple then:
How much did you pay for early access? Not the game. Not the Imperial Edition. Early access.
The game is going to be the same price tomorrow, so you got that early access for free. You didn't pay one cent for it. So even if a refund were justified (it isn't), you still wouldn't be entitled to any money.
Ill make it simple back to you. I would probably not have bought the game if i knew what i knew today. And no, the price is actually cheaper in store then it is on Zenimax webpage where i live.
You are still fully entitled to a refund for your pre-order at this moment as you have not begun to use any of your 30 days access.
If you are truely dismayed about your experiences. Then please by all means. Get a refund and leave. If not. Then please stop posting your rhetoric and behaving like a child.
And I seriously doubt the game is 'cheaper' where you live. Unless youre purposely leaving out the fact that the Edition you purchased is different from the Edition found at said store.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »myblackbox123 wrote: »The pre-order incentive was to get early access. Legally and technically if you were able to log in, they fulfilled their side of the deal. Unfortunately, the ToS spells it out pretty clearly: they don't guarantee 24/7 access.
If, upon purchasing the game by pre-order, and they could not get the servers running at all during early access, I would see how a lawsuit for not fulfilling their part of the terms may be warranted.
Unfortunately, the servers were up during early access. Maybe not as much as we'd like them to be, but that's relative isn't it?
There were a number of other incentives with the pre-order packages. Early access was just one feature. So either way, no lawsuit.
LoreRunner wrote: »well you forgot one variable. You didn't pay for early access. You also need to keep in mind these things happen during early release - come on you aren't stupid. It will level out later I'm sure this isn't your first mmo rodio. and if it is. WELCOME TO MMO EARLY ACCESS!! did you at least get the name you wanted? because thats generally what people get when they get early access and thats about it.
Wrong! We PAID for early access, either the 3-day or 5-day variety AND this is an ONLINE service that is PAID out of subscription fees. So when it's offline without prior warning or scheduled downtime, that is BAD BUSINESS and FALSE ADVERTISING.
So are you saying you didn't read the large amount of text that said that maintenance could occur at any time and the you acknowledge that you do not get compensated for it? Or do you not read things you pretty much sign and agree to?
nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Wrong! We PAID for early access, either the 3-day or 5-day variety AND this is an ONLINE service that is PAID out of subscription fees. So when it's offline without prior warning or scheduled downtime, that is BAD BUSINESS and FALSE ADVERTISING.
How much did you pay for early access?
I got mine free with my pre-order. You should probably complain to your local retailer.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Wrong! We PAID for early access, either the 3-day or 5-day variety AND this is an ONLINE service that is PAID out of subscription fees. So when it's offline without prior warning or scheduled downtime, that is BAD BUSINESS and FALSE ADVERTISING.
How much did you pay for early access?
I got mine free with my pre-order. You should probably complain to your local retailer.
Uhhh, I bought it direct from Zos over a month ago and as advertised, where is my 35 day access?
nerevarine1138 wrote: »myblackbox123 wrote: »The pre-order incentive was to get early access. Legally and technically if you were able to log in, they fulfilled their side of the deal. Unfortunately, the ToS spells it out pretty clearly: they don't guarantee 24/7 access.
If, upon purchasing the game by pre-order, and they could not get the servers running at all during early access, I would see how a lawsuit for not fulfilling their part of the terms may be warranted.
Unfortunately, the servers were up during early access. Maybe not as much as we'd like them to be, but that's relative isn't it?
There were a number of other incentives with the pre-order packages. Early access was just one feature. So either way, no lawsuit.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Wrong! We PAID for early access, either the 3-day or 5-day variety AND this is an ONLINE service that is PAID out of subscription fees. So when it's offline without prior warning or scheduled downtime, that is BAD BUSINESS and FALSE ADVERTISING.
How much did you pay for early access?
I got mine free with my pre-order. You should probably complain to your local retailer.
Uhhh, I bought it direct from Zos over a month ago and as advertised, where is my 35 day access?
And did you pay extra for early access? Read the ToS. You agreed to them.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Wrong! We PAID for early access, either the 3-day or 5-day variety AND this is an ONLINE service that is PAID out of subscription fees. So when it's offline without prior warning or scheduled downtime, that is BAD BUSINESS and FALSE ADVERTISING.
How much did you pay for early access?
I got mine free with my pre-order. You should probably complain to your local retailer.
Uhhh, I bought it direct from Zos over a month ago and as advertised, where is my 35 day access?
And did you pay extra for early access? Read the ToS. You agreed to them.
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
If one did not pay for easly acces, how come it was so widely adverticed?
I dont get it.
Let's make it really simple then:
How much did you pay for early access? Not the game. Not the Imperial Edition. Early access.
The game is going to be the same price tomorrow, so you got that early access for free. You didn't pay one cent for it. So even if a refund were justified (it isn't), you still wouldn't be entitled to any money.
Ill make it simple back to you. I would probably not have bought the game if i knew what i knew today. And no, the price is actually cheaper in store then it is on Zenimax webpage where i live.
You are still fully entitled to a refund for your pre-order at this moment as you have not begun to use any of your 30 days access.
If you are truely dismayed about your experiences. Then please by all means. Get a refund and leave. If not. Then please stop posting your rhetoric and behaving like a child.
And I seriously doubt the game is 'cheaper' where you live. Unless youre purposely leaving out the fact that the Edition you purchased is different from the Edition found at said store.
I paid $48 for my edition on a 3rd party site because they had a 20% off coupon. Doesn't make it any better that they had all this downtime. Sure you can say it is expected and all that, but that doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean they shouldn't add a day extra onto your subscription for cheating us out a day. I bought it saying that I would get 3 days early access to the game, not 2.
Tp those of you whom think you paid for the early access, you did not. You paid 59.99 for the slandered edition with the game and one month free they GAVE you the 5 day access free. And those who paid 79.99 like my self paid for the imperial/horse/ring of mara and a month of game time With the 5 day FREE. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET OR ANOTHER paid for the 3-5 day early access. I really wish people would get it through their head about this, And if you have played any mmo you will know servers are not up 24/7 there is down time especially close to launch to get everything ready.
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
If one did not pay for easly acces, how come it was so widely adverticed?
I dont get it.
Let's make it really simple then:
How much did you pay for early access? Not the game. Not the Imperial Edition. Early access.
The game is going to be the same price tomorrow, so you got that early access for free. You didn't pay one cent for it. So even if a refund were justified (it isn't), you still wouldn't be entitled to any money.
Ill make it simple back to you. I would probably not have bought the game if i knew what i knew today. And no, the price is actually cheaper in store then it is on Zenimax webpage where i live.
You are still fully entitled to a refund for your pre-order at this moment as you have not begun to use any of your 30 days access.
If you are truely dismayed about your experiences. Then please by all means. Get a refund and leave. If not. Then please stop posting your rhetoric and behaving like a child.
And I seriously doubt the game is 'cheaper' where you live. Unless youre purposely leaving out the fact that the Edition you purchased is different from the Edition found at said store.
I paid $48 for my edition on a 3rd party site because they had a 20% off coupon. Doesn't make it any better that they had all this downtime. Sure you can say it is expected and all that, but that doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean they shouldn't add a day extra onto your subscription for cheating us out a day. I bought it saying that I would get 3 days early access to the game, not 2.
I can definitely say its right. If theyre fixing the game....Theyre doing their jobs. If they werent youd be in here crying about all the bugs and how they arent getting fixed.
Funny how Zenimax just cant get things 'right'.....How ever will they please PVT_Parts.
Tp those of you whom think you paid for the early access, you did not. You paid 59.99 for the slandered edition with the game and one month free they GAVE you the 5 day access free. And those who paid 79.99 like my self paid for the imperial/horse/ring of mara and a month of game time With the 5 day FREE. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET OR ANOTHER paid for the 3-5 day early access. I really wish people would get it through their head about this, And if you have played any mmo you will know servers are not up 24/7 there is down time especially close to launch to get everything ready.
Actually according to my states consumer protection laws, as the early access was advertised as part of the package, I did indeed pay for it.
These laws vary by state, so you will want to check on yours specifically. But, barracks lawyering stating that someone did not pay for an advertised benefit is blatantly false under many states laws. In most places, if you advertise something as a benefit of purchase you had damed well better be able to deliver on that benefit. If you are selling a new drink that claims to make the consumer of that product "health, wealthy , and wise", then it had better do so or face the wrath of consumer protection agency and or attorney generals office. In this case "Early access" was advertised as a benefit and they had to deliver on it or they would be in a lot of trouble. The only real legal question in this case is: Does the level of service delivered equal what was advertised. That question would be up to a jury as a finding of fact. Not that I think it is even worth the effort to bring such a case before a jury,or that anyone who did was likely to win a judgment.
You need to reread that. It is clearly stating that if you buy the product today you will get X as a benefit. Where X is the early access. The same as with the TV infomercials where they say if you buy this product in the next 20 min then you get X as an added benefit. This is not a new or unique marketing strategy."Order the Digital Standard Edition today and be the first to play with five days of early game access." bundle, not a buy then you get this.
I did pay for early access, that was a term in the pre-order purchasing contract.
I did pay for early access, that was a term in the pre-order purchasing contract.
But you didn't pay anything for a pre-order. You paid the same price as people who will buy the same package as you tomorrow and get nothing extra. Also, as people have already pointed out, you need to read the ToS. So really it was your English lessons that let you down, not Science or Maths.