...are you suggesting that a teabagging victim who is blocked by the teabagger should tell the entire zone that they are upset... in a faction locked chat where the "offender" has zero chance to read it? Because at least 95% of these instances occur in PvP zones.Additional update based on a question asking about users who are in offline mode or placed an impacted player on an ignore list: If a user is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
Hi all. We wanted to address the recent conversations around teabagging and proper etiquette around the action in-game. In the past, we have noted that context matters when teabagging in-game and when responding to that action. Teabagging in-game is generally not a direct violation of ToS. However, when an impacted player asks you to stop and you refuse, that is when we have crossed into targeted harassment territory. If this happens and the impacted player reports the incident with video proof, then an investigation will open for ToS violations for targeted harassment. This can lead to possible suspension or permanent ban. So please take requests to stop seriously.
For those reporting a potential violation, please make sure you provide a video that makes it clear that you asked the user who teabagged you in-game to please stop the action and continued action after the ask.
We hope this clears things up for everyone, especially as we are going into Whitestrake's Mayhem. Again, we understand why some players choose to engage in teabagging. As someone in this thread put it, we survived the 2000's Halo lobbies also. But we want to respect anyone's wishes who do not want to be subject to the in-game action of teabagging.
Additional update based on a question asking about users who are in offline mode or placed an impacted player on an ignore list: If a user is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
Hi all. We wanted to address the recent conversations around teabagging and proper etiquette around the action in-game. In the past, we have noted that context matters when teabagging in-game and when responding to that action. Teabagging in-game is generally not a direct violation of ToS. However, when an impacted player asks you to stop and you refuse, that is when we have crossed into targeted harassment territory. If this happens and the impacted player reports the incident with video proof, then an investigation will open for ToS violations for targeted harassment. This can lead to possible suspension or permanent ban. So please take requests to stop seriously.
For those reporting a potential violation, please make sure you provide a video that makes it clear that you asked the user who teabagged you in-game to please stop the action and continued action after the ask.
We hope this clears things up for everyone, especially as we are going into Whitestrake's Mayhem. Again, we understand why some players choose to engage in teabagging. As someone in this thread put it, we survived the 2000's Halo lobbies also. But we want to respect anyone's wishes who do not want to be subject to the in-game action of teabagging.
Additional update based on a question asking about users who are in offline mode or placed an impacted player on an ignore list: If a user is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
CrazyKitty wrote: »How am I supposed to ask the user who teabagged me in-game when they're in offline mode or added me to ignore list?
@ZOS_Kevin
If someone is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
The opposing factions can't read what we type in zone chat. If someone is in offline mode or has a player on ignore there is no way to communicate with them.
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
I couldn't care less about teabagging in general, however......are you suggesting that a teabagging victim who is blocked by the teabagger should tell the entire zone that they are upset... in a faction locked chat where the "offender" has zero chance to read it? Because at least 95% of these instances occur in PvP zones.Additional update based on a question asking about users who are in offline mode or placed an impacted player on an ignore list: If a user is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
This seems unnecessarily humiliating for someone who has already been humiliated privately. Why should they tell everybody who's not even involved? There's enough drama in zone chat as it is... I certainly don't want to hear it. Plus this sets up a scenario where if somebody doesn't like somebody and just wants to troll them, they can shout in zone chat something like "PlayerX is teabagging me and they are offline/blocked me, so ZOS told me I have to let the zone know!" even though PlayerX doesn't teabag and is minding their own business at base.
Surely there must be a better way?
Minnesinger wrote: »I think that you can send mail.
Minnesinger wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »How am I supposed to ask the user who teabagged me in-game when they're in offline mode or added me to ignore list?
@ZOS_Kevin
If someone is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
The opposing factions can't read what we type in zone chat. If someone is in offline mode or has a player on ignore there is no way to communicate with them.
I think that you can send mail.
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
While we're at it, let's ban everyone who callously and maliciously ride their horses over me every day in cities.
Also, can we please get some sanity about respecting one's personal spaces in banks and wayshrines? I don't like people rubbing up against me constantly. Ban hammer pls.
And really, what's with all the staring constantly? I'm standing around minding my own business in a town and there's always someone staring at me. It's rude. Avert your eyes please.
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
While we're at it, let's ban everyone who callously and maliciously ride their horses over me every day in cities.
Also, can we please get some sanity about respecting one's personal spaces in banks and wayshrines? I don't like people rubbing up against me constantly. Ban hammer pls.
And really, what's with all the staring constantly? I'm standing around minding my own business in a town and there's always someone staring at me. It's rude. Avert your eyes please.
your examples are very bad, very bad. It's like comparing the finger of your hand to the hand itself.
How am I supposed to ask the user who teabagged me in-game when they're in offline mode or added me to ignore list?
@ZOS_Kevin
If someone is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
While we're at it, let's ban everyone who callously and maliciously ride their horses over me every day in cities.
Also, can we please get some sanity about respecting one's personal spaces in banks and wayshrines? I don't like people rubbing up against me constantly. Ban hammer pls.
And really, what's with all the staring constantly? I'm standing around minding my own business in a town and there's always someone staring at me. It's rude. Avert your eyes please.
your examples are very bad, very bad. It's like comparing the finger of your hand to the hand itself.
freespirit wrote: »Maybe I'm an old fuddy duddy but knowing exactly what the person is trying to simulate means I am totally opposed to it's use in any game, especially as the intention is to insult or belittle the receiving player!!
It's offensive and shouldn't be allowed anywhere except behind closed door's with consenting adults!!
freespirit wrote: »Maybe I'm an old fuddy duddy but knowing exactly what the person is trying to simulate means I am totally opposed to it's use in any game, especially as the intention is to insult or belittle the receiving player!!
It's offensive and shouldn't be allowed anywhere except behind closed door's with consenting adults!!
thats crazy. its not insinuating anything. its quite literally your character crouching on another person character...in a video gtame... like what are we even talking about.
tbh this is, and always has been, people abusing the system to get someone in trouble because they cant do anything against them in game. I kill you, i tbag you, you know you cant kill me, so you report.
And the reason i believe this is 1000% true is simple. on xbox no one ever got banned for tbagging. On xbox, no one ever messaged me and said "dont tbag me anymore" or anything like that. On xbox no one cared. since 2016, it never happened. Even on PC before maybe 2019 no one cared. But then people realized you could whisper people, ask them not to tbag you, and then get them banned if they did it again.
Tell me why I kill someone, they whisper me and say "dont tbag me" and then come back out of the keep, i kill them again, and they lay there. They could spawn in, but nope they just sit there. Waiting for me to do it or leave. Its so lame. They want to get you banned, and thats what its all about. Most reality based people dont care about someone's character crouching on their character in game, its all about getting back at someone you cant get back at in game.
And just to put this into perspective for all of you, the same rules exist with emoting. If i sweep on your dead body, and you ask me not to, and i keep doing it, the same rules apply. Its not about tbagging and never was, its simply about petty vincictive players trying to get back at players that they cant kill in game. Because rest assured, nearly every person who has ever said "dont tbag me". has tbagged me back after they sent the message. Because normally i dont say it to them.
So please, stop acting all high and mighty with this. If i stand over someones body after i kill them, they still get mad. They still hate whisper me. And thats why i just stand there now, because there is nothing you can do about it. And at the end of the day, you're just mad about dying. And instead of trying to improve, you go to the forums, or put in a ticket. Its so lame. And i dont mean you specifically, i just mean people in general.
Hi all. We wanted to address the recent conversations around teabagging and proper etiquette around the action in-game. In the past, we have noted that context matters when teabagging in-game and when responding to that action. Teabagging in-game is generally not a direct violation of ToS. However, when an impacted player asks you to stop and you refuse, that is when we have crossed into targeted harassment territory. If this happens and the impacted player reports the incident with video proof, then an investigation will open for ToS violations for targeted harassment. This can lead to possible suspension or permanent ban. So please take requests to stop seriously.
For those reporting a potential violation, please make sure you provide a video that makes it clear that you asked the user who teabagged you in-game to please stop the action and continued action after the ask.
We hope this clears things up for everyone, especially as we are going into Whitestrake's Mayhem. Again, we understand why some players choose to engage in teabagging. As someone in this thread put it, we survived the 2000's Halo lobbies also. But we want to respect anyone's wishes who do not want to be subject to the in-game action of teabagging.
Additional update based on a question asking about users who are in offline mode or placed an impacted player on an ignore list: If a user is in offline mode or placed you on an ignore list, you should make an effort to post the request in a general channel. As long as the attempt of contact is made and seen in your video account, that will be factored in during the investigation.
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
thats crazy. its not insinuating anything. its quite literally your character crouching on another person character...
Maybe just completely ban teabag and just ban everyone who does it, it will solve a lot of problems? Those to whom you write will get around it by trampling on a corpse, using emotions, or just standing on a corpse
While we're at it, let's ban everyone who callously and maliciously ride their horses over me every day in cities.
Also, can we please get some sanity about respecting one's personal spaces in banks and wayshrines? I don't like people rubbing up against me constantly. Ban hammer pls.
And really, what's with all the staring constantly? I'm standing around minding my own business in a town and there's always someone staring at me. It's rude. Avert your eyes please.
Before I'm accused of trolling by the mods, I want to point out that I didn't pick these items at random. Over the years, I've received tells from other players offended by these things!
My response? Well, as surprised as I was someone could be offended, I started making as conscious effort to avoid doing those things when possible. It was no big deal either way. Yet it would be oppressive for this to actually be enforced.
I was also surprised to learn many years ago players could be offended by tbagging. Since learning that, I've made an effort to avoid doing it to players I don't know, although sometimes I can't resist. If someone asks me not to do it, I will certainly comply, if I can remember their request indefinitely which isn't guaranteed.
The ZOS policy is more or less reasonable. There has to be a balance between individual liberty and the feelings of an individual.
People who make a big deal about tbagging should understand that the uproar is just going to make it more common. A reality in life is that there will always be someone we have to deal with who is trying to annoy us and the best response is always not to feed the troll.
I always wonder what happened to sticks and stones. I have a clear memory from my childhood of literally crying to my grandmother because some other kids called me names. She had absolutely no sympathy, telling me "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you!" And thank god she did because it never bothered me again and I learned not to feed the trolls. This may not seem like the same thing, but consider they're not really even simulating a tea bag because that's not a mechanic in the game. They are merely crouching and uncrouching, something players are entitled to do. Ultimately, how one chooses to interpret that is up to them.
thats crazy. its not insinuating anything. its quite literally your character crouching on another person character...
So, how is the situation "funny" if it's insinuating nothing?
Crouching over someone doesn't seem very amusing?
Also, if it has no meaning, one could run circles around the corpse, or jump up and down instead, or use a trumpet emote?
and people do all of those things.
and people do all of those things.
That doesn't answer my question though. If it means nothing, why do some people do it? Where's the fun in crouching or doing pushups above a dead player?
Personally, if I'm immersed/in character, I would salute, and if not immersed/ooc, I would just move on.
and people do all of those things.
That doesn't answer my question though. If it means nothing, why do some people do it? Where's the fun in crouching or doing pushups above a dead player?
Personally, if I'm immersed/in character, I would salute, and if not immersed/ooc, I would just move on.