Where are all the children?

Vargr · January 18

As the title says where are all the children, babies, and pregnant women/mer? The closest I can find are argonian eggs which as far as i can tell hatch as full adults. What horrible cataclysm took place that wiped out all the children? I can't be the only one to have noticed this!

Soarora · January 18

There’s teenage Altmer but they look like scrawny adults. I’m sure there’s some kind of reason as to why there’s no children but yeah I’ve noticed.

Syldras · January 18

Vargr wrote: »

As the title says where are all the children, babies, and pregnant women/mer?

Wo-mer?

Well, I'm sure they're hiding in all those locked buildings you cannot enter. Who on Nirn would let their children play outside during the Planemeld, and with vampires, dragons, Apocryphal creatures and whatnot around?

XSTRONG · January 18

Vargr wrote: »

As the title says where are all the children, babies, and pregnant women/mer? The closest I can find are argonian eggs which as far as i can tell hatch as full adults. What horrible cataclysm took place that wiped out all the children? I can't be the only one to have noticed this!

Its a game

Melivar · January 18

Because someone would run around Blade of Woeing them all

ArchangelIsraphel · January 18

I'm sure it has something to do with that one guy who collects donations for the "war orphans" every new life festival. I never trusted him. >_> <_< >_>

Elsonso · January 18

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I'm sure it has something to do with that one guy who collects donations for the "war orphans" every new life festival. I never trusted him. >_> <_< >_>

You may not trust him, but there is no denying that he is fantastically wealthy by now.

Grizzbeorn · January 18

I find it disturbing that so many people are fixated on this. (your thread is far from being the first on the topic, OP.)

This isn't a Sims game; it doesn't have to be a direct analog of real-life.

Let. It. Go.

Syldras · January 18

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I'm sure it has something to do with that one guy who collects donations for the "war orphans" every new life festival. I never trusted him. >_> <_< >_>

Maybe it's a huge misunderstanding and in the Altmer language, "orphan" refers to everyone whose parents have already died (which might apply to, for example, old guys asking for orphan donations).

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

I find it disturbing that so many people are fixated on this. (your thread is far from being the first on the topic, OP.)
This isn't a Sims game; it doesn't have to be a direct analog of real-life.

They always ask for children, but I rarely see people suggesting an update that requires the player character to use toilets - for realism and immersion!!

Grizzbeorn · January 18

Syldras wrote: »

I rarely see people suggesting an update that requires the player character to use toilets - for realism and immersion!!

They don't pop up as often, but there have been a few of those (too many) in my time here.

disky · January 18

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

I find it disturbing that so many people are fixated on this. (your thread is far from being the first on the topic, OP.)

This isn't a Sims game; it doesn't have to be a direct analog of real-life.

Let. It. Go.

I understand the point, personally. Kids existed in Skyrim, no reason they couldn't exist in ESO with similar "essential" mechanics. Not that ESO and Skyrim are anywhere near the same, but from a world and content perspective, they could exist, and I feel like non-adults do make the game feel a little more realistic. Because of course there would be kids in the world, somewhere, and it just feels a little odd that they're nowhere to be found.

But the more important question, as far as I'm concerned, is why are all the goblins so...human-sized.

Syldras · January 18

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

I rarely see people suggesting an update that requires the player character to use toilets - for realThey don't pop up as often, but there have been a few of those (too many) in my time here.

Just adding toilets to buildings or actually using them? I think the first would make sense, but I can live very well without the second.

What I'd love would be usable beds in housing, though.

ArchangelIsraphel · January 18

Maybe it's a huge misunderstanding and in the Altmer language, "orphan" refers to everyone whose parents have already died (which might apply to, for example, old guys asking for orphan donations).

War on Cyrodiil getting you down? Have you lost a parent, guardian, or wolf that raised you in a cave in the middle of nowhere within the last 1000 years? You too may be eligible for financial compensation! Send a letter by courier to:

Ormurrel
Temple of the Eight, Grahtwood
Courtesy of the TotallyNotAScam Foundation

Nihilr · January 18

I do wish they had kids just because the dialogue for some in Skyrim was humorous:

"Boys. Girls. Dogs. Elders--THERE AIN'T NOBODY I WON'T FIGHT!!" --Braith, Whiterun

Just make them spunky, untargetable npcs. 🤷‍♀️

SilverBride · January 18

We've been fine for 10 year without children in the game and I am uncomfortable with the idea of adding them.

Elvenheart · January 18

Under the stairs.

ArchangelIsraphel · January 18

SilverBride wrote: »

We've been fine for 10 year without children in the game and I am uncomfortable with the idea of adding them.

This. Very much this.

gusthermopyle · January 18

I always liked coming home to my house in Skyrim and bringing the kids a toy or a little gift. If you gave them a dagger and had a target dummy at home they would go off and stab it

Why not have this in ESO? It was cutein Skyrim and made a house feel more like a home.

Castagere · January 18

It prevents child murder.

ArchMikem · January 18

Soarora wrote: »

There’s teenage Altmer but they look like scrawny adults. I’m sure there’s some kind of reason as to why there’s no children but yeah I’ve noticed.

There's also a Teenage Khajiit in Anequina, as well as Hildegard in the Dark Brotherhood, but yeah, just scaled down adult character models. ZOS never made actual child models, probably cause putting kids into the game would invoke...questionable behavior from players.

Castagere wrote: »

It prevents child murder.

ZOS would just have to make them immortal objects that you can't target.

Pixiepumpkin · January 18

I have no problem with this, children would make the game feel more alive.

ZOS_Hadeostry · January 20

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's lore related.

Thank you for your understanding

SeaGtGruff · January 20

It's because of Kindergarten Nord. He scared all of the kids and their parents so badly that parents all over Tamriel now keep their children safely out of sight at home. Well, except for the parents in Skyrim, because... you know... they're Nord parents and Nord kids.

Vaqual · January 21

Childhood is an interesting stage in life since a child is comparatively defenseless, inexperienced and impressionable. This opens up ways to set up plots that would make a lot less sense for adult characters (saving imbeciles is annoying). Also they are useful to believably increase the emotional gravity of a situation. And lastly, as has been said already, it would be good for immersion.

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them. The first ones where pretty bad, but they did it nevertheless. I don't see what the problem would be really. Babies could literally be non-interactable world decorations/furnishings or part of the mother-NPCs mesh.

SilverBride · January 21

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

Pixiepumpkin · January 21

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

SilverBride · January 21

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

There is a huge difference. Children are vulnerable in ways that adults aren't. Bringing children into this game would open a huge can of worms and make a lot of players uncomfortable.

Pixiepumpkin · January 21

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

There is a huge difference. Children are vulnerable in ways that adults aren't. Bringing children into this game would open a huge can of worms and make a lot of players uncomfortable.

But that is not the argument. You asserted that there is a huge difference between female dwarves and children, but the argument is not about female dwarves vs children, its about requsting changes/additions to the game.

In LOTR female dwarves were requested by the community and implemented in game.
In ESO some of the community requests that children be implemeted in game.

Its the same thing, no difference.

SilverBride · January 21

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

There is a huge difference. Children are vulnerable in ways that adults aren't. Bringing children into this game would open a huge can of worms and make a lot of players uncomfortable.

But that is not the argument. You asserted that there is a huge difference between female dwarves and children, but the argument is not about female dwarves vs children, its about requsting changes/additions to the game.

In LOTR female dwarves were requested by the community and implemented in game.
In ESO some of the community requests that children be implemeted in game.

Its the same thing, no difference.

It is very different. All requests and suggestions are not equally reasonable.

I am frankly disturbed that this is even being suggested.

Pixiepumpkin · January 21

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

There is a huge difference. Children are vulnerable in ways that adults aren't. Bringing children into this game would open a huge can of worms and make a lot of players uncomfortable.

But that is not the argument. You asserted that there is a huge difference between female dwarves and children, but the argument is not about female dwarves vs children, its about requsting changes/additions to the game.

In LOTR female dwarves were requested by the community and implemented in game.
In ESO some of the community requests that children be implemeted in game.

Its the same thing, no difference.

It is very different. All requests and suggestions are not equally reasonable.

I am frankly disturbed that this is even being suggested.

Again. In context this is not about the difference between children and female dwarves, this is about players communicating to the development team their wishes/desires. In this context, there is no difference.

SilverBride · January 21

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I remember how long people were asking for female dwarfes in LotRO and at some point everyone thought that ship had sailed. But then they just did it and introduced them.

They introduced adult female dwarfs, not children. Huge difference.

In context it's not about adults vs chidren, it's about the developers implementing a requested addition to the game. In this example, there is no difference.

There is a huge difference. Children are vulnerable in ways that adults aren't. Bringing children into this game would open a huge can of worms and make a lot of players uncomfortable.

But that is not the argument. You asserted that there is a huge difference between female dwarves and children, but the argument is not about female dwarves vs children, its about requsting changes/additions to the game.

In LOTR female dwarves were requested by the community and implemented in game.
In ESO some of the community requests that children be implemeted in game.

Its the same thing, no difference.

It is very different. All requests and suggestions are not equally reasonable.

I am frankly disturbed that this is even being suggested.

Again. In context this is not about the difference between children and female dwarves, this is about players communicating to the development team their wishes/desires. In this context, there is no difference.

The context of the suggestion does matter. So let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.