Cyrodiil Capacity Test!

Tyrant_Tim

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/648108/cyrodiil-population-cap-testing#latest

Heads up, over in the Alliance War category, @ZOS_BrianWheeler put a post up needing support for a Cyrodiil Population Capacity test and during that entire window we will be getting double Alliance Points! I’ve provided the link to this thread, so head over and check it out!

Now my question is this, if/when you participate, which faction will you be fighting for?

DorianDragonRaze

None of the above :-)

MissAethe

Daggerfall Covenant

All of my PVP toons are red, but I recently joined a blue guild so that's where I'll be this round

ArchangelIsraphel

Ebonheart Pact

Blood for the pact

I'm on vacation throughout December, this is delightful news. Double AP omnomnom.

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

Glad to see AD coming back in the poll, was getting a little worried there. 😅

Braffin

Aldmeri Dominion

Let's hope the performance tests will go fine.

Quite exciting to see zos doing something PvP-related.

Four_Fingers

Will be a sea of red. lol

Braffin

Aldmeri Dominion

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Glad to see AD coming back in the poll, was getting a little worried there. 😅

Well, someone has to spill the blood of the pact after all. They need it for their banners. 😆

LunaFlora

Aldmeri Dominion

all three

OsUfi

Aldmeri Dominion

#AD4lyfe

ZOS_Kevin

Thanks for reposting Brian's thread, @Tyrant_Tim. Much appreciated. We definitely encourage everyone interested to participate. And double AP!

SeaGtGruff

Daggerfall Covenant

I'll get in if I can, but I'm thinking-- long queues, probably.

SaffronCitrusflower

This post made me cringe.

Surely I'm not the only player that endured the months of combat and skill adjustments they ran us though in Cyrodiil and then at the end nothing what so ever changed as a result. I sure hope this isn't going to be a repeat of that last failed testing.

Just dedicate some more server capacity for Cyrodiil is almost certainly what needs to happen to increase performance and give us back a reasonable population cap to keep Cyrodiil alive and well. So what needs to happen isn't a change on the player end. What needs to happen is a change on the ZOS' end in terms of investment into resources dedicated to the zone.

...and yes, it will cost some money on ZOS' end and cut into the profit margin to a small degree to fix this and restore cyroliil to some of it's formal glory.

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

I take it you play Daggerfall Covenant? 🤷‍♂️

SaffronCitrusflower

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

I take it you play Daggerfall Covenant? 🤷‍♂️

I have leveled accounts for all three factions and can play any faction at any time without using a faction change token. However, I set these alteranate accounts up during the heyday of Cyrodiil, and almost all my friends have left the game with the exception of one guild on one faction. So I don't faction hop anymore these days to speak of.

I rarely play DC because they are most often the faction that is winning and over populated already, and the guild I run with daily is not on DC.

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

I take it you play Daggerfall Covenant? 🤷‍♂️

I have leveled accounts for all three factions and can play any faction at any time without using a faction change token. However, I set these alteranate accounts up during the heyday of Cyrodiil, and almost all my friends have left the game with the exception of one guild on one faction. So I don't faction hop anymore these days to speak of.

I rarely play DC because they are most often the faction that is winning and over populated already, and the guild I run with daily is not on DC.

Then what made you cringe? lol

Because his post, at least to me, sounded like the start of us receiving attention to Cyrodiil again which is something those of us who PvP all want.

Stamicka

It's not totally confirmed that this test will ever make it to NA. I would be extremely surprised if there were actual good results from this on PC EU that justified further testing.

Turtle_Bot

Daggerfall Covenant

Running with friends (if/when they're on).

Most likely DC, but could be AD if they're on that faction during this.

Rohamad_Ali

Aldmeri Dominion

Sounds laggy but okay.

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

Talk about a close poll!

reazea

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

I take it you play Daggerfall Covenant? 🤷‍♂️

I have leveled accounts for all three factions and can play any faction at any time without using a faction change token. However, I set these alteranate accounts up during the heyday of Cyrodiil, and almost all my friends have left the game with the exception of one guild on one faction. So I don't faction hop anymore these days to speak of.

I rarely play DC because they are most often the faction that is winning and over populated already, and the guild I run with daily is not on DC.

Then what made you cringe? lol

Because his post, at least to me, sounded like the start of us receiving attention to Cyrodiil again which is something those of us who PvP all want.

I'm fairly certain that Saffron is referring to these tests that lasted months, were horrific to play through, and never resulted in any changes of any kind that helped performance in any way.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/539136/update-on-cyrodiil-performance-upcoming-aoe-tests

Read the announcement made today and compare it to the announcement I linked to from over 3 years ago. The similarities are undeniable.

OtarTheMad

Ebonheart Pact

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

Surely I'm not the only player that endured the months of combat and skill adjustments they ran us though in Cyrodiil and then at the end nothing what so ever changed as a result. I sure hope this isn't going to be a repeat of that last failed testing.

Just dedicate some more server capacity for Cyrodiil is almost certainly what needs to happen to increase performance and give us back a reasonable population cap to keep Cyrodiil alive and well. So what needs to happen isn't a change on the player end. What needs to happen is a change on the ZOS' end in terms of investment into resources dedicated to the zone.

...and yes, it will cost some money on ZOS' end and cut into the profit margin to a small degree to fix this and restore cyroliil to some of it's formal glory.

I don’t see how it’s cringe. The testing they did, if I remember correctly from what Rich said on an old stream, lead to the re-architecture code rewrite thing which was renamed Multithreading and that update we got in June. Even though it didn’t do what they thought they still did something. That’s what I see this as too, they are trying different things and I applaud them for that.

Plus you say “give us a reasonable population cap”, isn’t that what this test is trying to find out? If it makes it to PC/NA I’m in.

reazea

OtarTheMad wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

Surely I'm not the only player that endured the months of combat and skill adjustments they ran us though in Cyrodiil and then at the end nothing what so ever changed as a result. I sure hope this isn't going to be a repeat of that last failed testing.

Just dedicate some more server capacity for Cyrodiil is almost certainly what needs to happen to increase performance and give us back a reasonable population cap to keep Cyrodiil alive and well. So what needs to happen isn't a change on the player end. What needs to happen is a change on the ZOS' end in terms of investment into resources dedicated to the zone.

...and yes, it will cost some money on ZOS' end and cut into the profit margin to a small degree to fix this and restore cyroliil to some of it's formal glory.

I don’t see how it’s cringe. The testing they did, if I remember correctly from what Rich said on an old stream, lead to the re-architecture code rewrite thing which was renamed Multithreading and that update we got in June. Even though it didn’t do what they thought they still did something. That’s what I see this as too, they are trying different things and I applaud them for that.

Plus you say “give us a reasonable population cap”, isn’t that what this test is trying to find out? If it makes it to PC/NA I’m in.

There were no changes what so ever as a result of the previous tests linked to in this thread:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/539136/update-on-cyrodiil-performance-upcoming-aoe-tests/p1

We just had a few months of horrible, radical game changing limitations that made Cyrodiil a mostly horrible experience and nothing came of it to benefit performance. (for example, where does this server multi threading commitment stand now exactly?...it's been discontinued)

The cringe factor comes from ZOS almost certainly already knows exactly what they need to do to increase performance and bring cyrodiil back to it's former glory. It's more than likely that these new "tests" are more a PR effort than an effort to address PvP performance issues....given ZOS almost certainly already knows what needs to happen to fix Cyrodiil performance issues; they need to invest in more server capacity for the zone.

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

Either way, would it be asking too much for some optimism?

This is definitely a good thing.

Jaraal

Aldmeri Dominion

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

I have to say, if the campaigns look anything like this poll in terms of faction turnout, it’s going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

SaffronCitrusflower

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

This post made me cringe.

I take it you play Daggerfall Covenant? 🤷‍♂️

I have leveled accounts for all three factions and can play any faction at any time without using a faction change token. However, I set these alteranate accounts up during the heyday of Cyrodiil, and almost all my friends have left the game with the exception of one guild on one faction. So I don't faction hop anymore these days to speak of.

I rarely play DC because they are most often the faction that is winning and over populated already, and the guild I run with daily is not on DC.

Then what made you cringe? lol

Because his post, at least to me, sounded like the start of us receiving attention to Cyrodiil again which is something those of us who PvP all want.

As reazea pointed out, the cringe factor is the "here we go again" scenario. Is this a PR thing, or are they actually working on something? And if they're actually working on something, is anything positive going to come of it? Or are they just going to drop the pop caps even further than they already have and use this "test" to justify it?

Here is a quote from the devs themselves:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/637691/server-multithreading-update-july-2023/p1

"Fortunately, the recent upgrade to server hardware has resulted in more customer-facing server performance improvements than any of our multithreading work in all public realms where we’ve completed the work."

So they've already stated they know exactly what to do to improve cyrodiil performance. So why the new test? Why don't they just dedicate more server resources to the zone since they've already stated they know that will work?

ZOS_Hadeostry

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's about Cyrodiil.

Thank you for your understanding

ArchMikem

Ebonheart Pact

Seems PC gets the spotlight first, will wait to see when Console's day is.

AuraNebula

Aldmeri Dominion

Haven't played for a few months. Is it still tank meta?

Tyrant_Tim

Aldmeri Dominion

AuraNebula wrote: »

Haven't played for a few months. Is it still tank meta?

Sort of? The main things eating everyone alive are Damage-Over-Time proc builds, and Nightblades scalping you with 20k Spec Bows.

Other than that, everything is pretty much the same and people consistently have 30k+ health.