evil hunter / magelight / revealing flare is your best friend. there are also potions that can give you CC immunity or prevent targets from entering stealth.
running around alone in IC with a bag of tel var on you is just not the greatest idea in the world honestly.
Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
Four_Fingers wrote: »I counter it by expecting I am going to get "ganked" once in a while no matter my build or how experienced I am at PvP.
It is the nature of the beast, but that being said always at least try to fight back and eventually it evens out as you get better.
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
22k health is WAY too low for PvP.
If you want to reliably be able to survive ganks i would suggest at least 30k, more realisticly 40k hp.
With 22k hp you will make yourself a target for every ganker around because you look super squishy, a higher hp pool is already going to make it a lot easier, because lots of gankers wont even try ganking you if you look tanky.
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
Ok here is your problem. Nightblades hit really hard in no cp because you don’t have any damage mitigating champion passives slotted. Your health is not high enough for PvP. On a DK you need no less than 30k and more is better. New Moon Acolyte is not a great set with the increase in cost of your abilities and you say you’re struggling running out of resources. You need to get the stage 3 Vampire passive Undeath active, it’s your only big source of damage mitigation in no cp. You also need Impenetrable on all your PvP armor.
Make sure you’re running the Corrosive Armor ultimate.
CreamedPieYum wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
22k health is WAY too low for PvP.
If you want to reliably be able to survive ganks i would suggest at least 30k, more realisticly 40k hp.
With 22k hp you will make yourself a target for every ganker around because you look super squishy, a higher hp pool is already going to make it a lot easier, because lots of gankers wont even try ganking you if you look tanky.
But wouldn't I be sacrificing a LOT of damage to get all that health? My magicka pool would then be at..20k? Which is utter garbage lol Having tanky health is nice but I'd hit like a wet noodle
Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
22k health is WAY too low for PvP.
If you want to reliably be able to survive ganks i would suggest at least 30k, more realisticly 40k hp.
With 22k hp you will make yourself a target for every ganker around because you look super squishy, a higher hp pool is already going to make it a lot easier, because lots of gankers wont even try ganking you if you look tanky.
But wouldn't I be sacrificing a LOT of damage to get all that health? My magicka pool would then be at..20k? Which is utter garbage lol Having tanky health is nice but I'd hit like a wet noodle
No, your damage will come from you having weapon/spell damage glyphs on your jewelry and your one damage set. You want to put at least half of your attribute points into health instead of magicka in PvP. Get your health over 30k. Make sure you’re wearing at least 3 heavy pieces of armor and have the undaunted passives unlocked when you can.
You’re getting targeted in IC when they see you with 22k health and that you’re a newer player with low cp.
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
Ok here is your problem. Nightblades hit really hard in no cp because you don’t have any damage mitigating champion passives slotted. Your health is not high enough for PvP. On a DK you need no less than 30k and more is better. New Moon Acolyte is not a great set with the increase in cost of your abilities and you say you’re struggling running out of resources. You need to get the stage 3 Vampire passive Undeath active, it’s your only big source of damage mitigation in no cp. You also need Impenetrable on all your PvP armor.
Make sure you’re running the Corrosive Armor ultimate.
I didn't say I ran out of resources. The gankers usually have these attribute draining poisons that take your mag and stam to nearly zero. Sometimes I can counter it with a tri potion, but most times they do this when I'm still on cooldown lol
As for the CP mitigations, I'm 250 CP and won't have access to any meaningful ones for quite a while. I do however have undeath. I'm actually stage 4 because of the invisible running. It's saved me quite often
Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
Ok here is your problem. Nightblades hit really hard in no cp because you don’t have any damage mitigating champion passives slotted. Your health is not high enough for PvP. On a DK you need no less than 30k and more is better. New Moon Acolyte is not a great set with the increase in cost of your abilities and you say you’re struggling running out of resources. You need to get the stage 3 Vampire passive Undeath active, it’s your only big source of damage mitigation in no cp. You also need Impenetrable on all your PvP armor.
Make sure you’re running the Corrosive Armor ultimate.
I didn't say I ran out of resources. The gankers usually have these attribute draining poisons that take your mag and stam to nearly zero. Sometimes I can counter it with a tri potion, but most times they do this when I'm still on cooldown lol
As for the CP mitigations, I'm 250 CP and won't have access to any meaningful ones for quite a while. I do however have undeath. I'm actually stage 4 because of the invisible running. It's saved me quite often
With stage 4 vampire and New Moon Acolyte together all your skills are costing 17% more which is noticeable in no cp because again you don’t have sustain champion passives active. That’s part of why when the Nightblade starts draining your resources you get into trouble.
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Also, what do you mean running around with tel var isnt the best idea? How else are you supposed to accrue it? Even if I became the ganker and got 5k stones from someone..I'm still carrying a lot of tel var and I cant help it lol
i know no one likes to hear "bring friends lol" but sorry. IC ganks are significantly less risky if your target isn't accompanied by a group that will CC you to death as soon as you make your attack. it's not like cyrodiil or BG where you can just be cannon fodder used to take out high priority targets like healers or something.running around alone
CreamedPieYum wrote: »evil hunter / magelight / revealing flare is your best friend. there are also potions that can give you CC immunity or prevent targets from entering stealth.
running around alone in IC with a bag of tel var on you is just not the greatest idea in the world honestly.
That's what I was afraid of though. Do I really have to keep spamming that stuff? Because that seems like a whole lot of work
I understand doing it for capturing flags and such to make sure ppl don't sneak up on you. But if you're preoccupied fighting a boss or mobs, its mentally exhausting to do a magelight/drink detect every few seconds
Also, what do you mean running around with tel var isnt the best idea? How else are you supposed to accrue it? Even if I became the ganker and got 5k stones from someone..I'm still carrying a lot of tel var and I cant help it lol
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
Ok here is your problem. Nightblades hit really hard in no cp because you don’t have any damage mitigating champion passives slotted. Your health is not high enough for PvP. On a DK you need no less than 30k and more is better. New Moon Acolyte is not a great set with the increase in cost of your abilities and you say you’re struggling running out of resources. You need to get the stage 3 Vampire passive Undeath active, it’s your only big source of damage mitigation in no cp. You also need Impenetrable on all your PvP armor.
Make sure you’re running the Corrosive Armor ultimate.
I didn't say I ran out of resources. The gankers usually have these attribute draining poisons that take your mag and stam to nearly zero. Sometimes I can counter it with a tri potion, but most times they do this when I'm still on cooldown lol
As for the CP mitigations, I'm 250 CP and won't have access to any meaningful ones for quite a while. I do however have undeath. I'm actually stage 4 because of the invisible running. It's saved me quite often
With stage 4 vampire and New Moon Acolyte together all your skills are costing 17% more which is noticeable in no cp because again you don’t have sustain champion passives active. That’s part of why when the Nightblade starts draining your resources you get into trouble.
What set would you say is a good pve/pvp balance to go with my hist robes?
CreamedPieYum wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
22k health is WAY too low for PvP.
If you want to reliably be able to survive ganks i would suggest at least 30k, more realisticly 40k hp.
With 22k hp you will make yourself a target for every ganker around because you look super squishy, a higher hp pool is already going to make it a lot easier, because lots of gankers wont even try ganking you if you look tanky.
But wouldn't I be sacrificing a LOT of damage to get all that health? My magicka pool would then be at..20k? Which is utter garbage lol Having tanky health is nice but I'd hit like a wet noodle
CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. I have all light armor for the buffs, so armor is also low. I know I die fast lol but at least I hit 10k per lava whip
CreamedPieYum wrote: »CreamedPieYum wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »No, you don’t have to run around spamming magelight. You may need to play on a different class or change your build though if you want to have an easier time. Post details of what you’re running including your CP choices and your health, armor, and crit resist.
I don't play on CP and I'm only 250 so there's no way I can compete with the 1000+ CPs on pvp
I'm a damage dealer mainly. 22k health, MagDK, I run new moon acolyte and just got robes of the hist a few min ago. Oakensoul ring
Crit resist probably isn't too good because I focus on damage. Armor is also low. I know I die fast lol
22k health is WAY too low for PvP.
If you want to reliably be able to survive ganks i would suggest at least 30k, more realisticly 40k hp.
With 22k hp you will make yourself a target for every ganker around because you look super squishy, a higher hp pool is already going to make it a lot easier, because lots of gankers wont even try ganking you if you look tanky.
But wouldn't I be sacrificing a LOT of damage to get all that health? My magicka pool would then be at..20k? Which is utter garbage lol Having tanky health is nice but I'd hit like a wet noodle