Grim Focus Permaglow

Lauranae · May 21

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

With new chapter we will have skills styling now - so it would be easy to just make version with and without glow, including both in base game without any requirements. This is only and reasonable way to make happy both sides of conflict. It just need minimum effort from ZOS.

I wouldn’t say the only (optional weapon glow effects for all should make those who like the effect happy, as well as those who might like a different color and/or on a different class). Personally, I preferred a visual indicator of some kind (maybe this one still does some kind of pop up on the bar? Idk), but as long as there’s some way to get rid of the horrid permaglow and still use the skill, I would be happy (but not paying Crowns for it; the class wasn’t irradiated when I started playing it and I already paid Crowns for weapon styles I’m using but which get obliterated by grim focus radiation).

Most of the glow weapons are more an aura than a geometric sort. But to add to the injury, not only we have it red, but its a perfect circle (and my ophthalmologist told me to avoid that kind, as it always lure the eye to it, and can cause an eye fatigue if you use a lot a computer.

Wildberryjack · May 21

I love that perma-glow and they should not remove it because a lot of players like it. It's never good to take something away.

dcrush · May 21

Wildberryjack wrote: »

I love that perma-glow and they should not remove it because a lot of players like it. It's never good to take something away.

They took away not having a permaglow. They took away effects from cosmetics that people paid actual money for.

Lauranae · May 21

Wildberryjack wrote: »

I love that perma-glow and they should not remove it because a lot of players like it. It's never good to take something away.

we do not ask to be removed but to allow a toggle. You like it and it is fine. but actually i can not use the skill because of the glow as well as the new set

Ravensilver · May 21

I no longer use the skill, since my eyes and my head can't take looking at this garish red glow for more than a few minutes. I get migranes and eye fatigue very quickly.
I've never bought a weapons set, but now I'm definitely never going to...

Vrelanier · May 22

The Dressing Room addon is the main reason I still play ESO. Can't imagine I'd have to look at the glow all the time. Now I have a keybind to set skills that don't have grim focus, and another to put it back on for more challenging content. Ofc I end up running to world bosses and going "oops" all the time because I don't have the right spells, but it is what it is. It's kinda weird to think that an addon has to do what the game should already do, but I also gotta say, I'd rather have a crutch than crawl on all fours. I feel bad for our fellow console nb's though. It sucks. Idk what else to do, than to just mass murder every civilian in every city and town in Tamriel, in broad daylight, until they change it, because obviously ZoS wants us to have a personal spotlight to show everyone what we're doing in the shadows. Ok idk what other nb's do in the shadows, but that's what I do. That, and eat crusty bread.

barney2525 · May 22

I go in the opposite direction. There are a couple of sets where the weapon disappears until you take an aggressive stance.

I like running around with a staff that can not be seen.

HushAzrael · May 22

I have SHELVED my nightblades— yes, I have multiple lol— in equal parts because of this and because they are not good enough for any end game content. I persisted on nightblade long after I probably should have moved on, until this stupid glow broke the camel’s back. Please, PLEASE give me a reason to play nb again. I miss my beloved main!

kind_hero · May 22

I hope this redglow get fixed with scribing.

I don't like it. I bought the invisible/conjured weapons exactly to hide weapons hanging on the back or any glowing things. Now I have a red floating orb following me.

I don't want it removed, just toggled or disabled for the invisible weapons.

wolfie1.0. · May 22

Wildberryjack wrote: »

I love that perma-glow and they should not remove it because a lot of players like it. It's never good to take something away.

There are outfits and weapons that hide themselves when sheathed. Apparently the perma glow persists even when this happens. Resulting in the glow hovering over shoulders and on hips....

Lauranae · May 22

kind_hero wrote: »

I hope this redglow get fixed with scribing.

I don't like it. I bought the invisible/conjured weapons exactly to hide weapons hanging on the back or any glowing things. Now I have a red floating orb following me.

I don't want it removed, just toggled or disabled for the invisible weapons.

For now, for NB, nothing that could allow to change that in scribing.
And any way scribing allow a new *visual effect* in another color, but not that one for NB.

I do hope they did not introduced more floating circle in other classes.
I was surprised to see someone in High isle, running around in a green aura with circles (as for the red for the soulcleaver nb armor set), so it seems that for one of our stylist, the circles are the way to go

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tsaescishoeshiner · May 22

I feel like the glow should only be active in combat, or anytime that you have stacks, or only when your weapon is unsheathed. Any of these would be fine for me.

Before it was permanent, you had to activate it to see the glow, and that was pretty rarely used.

You pretty much need this skill on a nightblade, so having the glow active permanently looks cool on one outfit for me but not any others. So, I could do without it.

Kikazaru · May 22

The players in this thread have provided many workarounds for this issue and ZOS is still "monitoring" this thread without any further updates since August 2023.

Insane.

Ravensilver · May 22

Kikazaru wrote: »

The players in this thread have provided many workarounds for this issue and ZOS is still "monitoring" this thread without any further updates since August 2023.

Insane.

That *is* quite normal on the forum. We had a thread by a dev up in the housing forum, where we were asked for input and suggestions and ideas for the slot-dilemma in the houses. After two years of absolutely *zero* feedback, it was simply deleted.

So... don't get your hopes up...

vsrs_au · May 22

Ravensilver wrote: »

Kikazaru wrote: »

The players in this thread have provided many workarounds for this issue and ZOS is still "monitoring" this thread without any further updates since August 2023.

Insane.

That *is* quite normal on the forum. We had a thread by a dev up in the housing forum, where we were asked for input and suggestions and ideas for the slot-dilemma in the houses. After two years of absolutely *zero* feedback, it was simply deleted.

So... don't get your hopes up...

It's the same with the thread by Gina re: ESO+ ideas. It was started about 7 years ago, which is also about how long it's been since any ZOS person posted to it. Forum members have been posting ideas to the thread for 7 years, but no ZOS replies, so it's unclear if they've even been reading it.

Idelise · May 23

It would be nice if something was done with the glow. It's jarring. And sacrificing dps for aesthetics is... well. Here's hoping scribing will allow us to make a better skill without that horrid glow.

Remathilis · May 23

Well the good news; it matches the red permaglow from the IA set. 😉

Araneae6537 · May 23

Remathilis wrote: »

Well the good news; it matches the red permaglow from the IA set. 😉

Blech! I was actually going to try using the set, just for fun, but I deconned the pieces I’d saved when I found out they also had this obnoxious glow. I like the runes around the arcanist IA set, but even that one also has a glow. Personally, I don’t care for a persistent glow unless a very subtle effect from a limited source, like a jewel or something, but glows in ESO tend to go through everything.

Visual cues for effects/status are one thing, but I really wish that ZOS would make fashion separate from function.

joseayalac · May 24

Already more than 1,000 replies!

ZOS, it's time to take a stance.

@ZOS_Kevin

Jaraal · May 24

joseayalac wrote: »

Already more than 1,000 replies!

ZOS, it's time to take a stance.

@ZOS_Kevin

They already did. They said it was "Working as intended."

Araneae6537 · May 24

Jaraal wrote: »

joseayalac wrote: »

Already more than 1,000 replies!

ZOS, it's time to take a stance.

@ZOS_Kevin

They already did. They said it was "Working as intended."

Ouch, if that’s truly the case, the worst part is that it’s intended to have worse functionality on console.
On console, removing the permaglow requires not just unslotting the skill, but a respec to remove the skill point(s).

KlauthWarthog · May 24

Jaraal wrote: »

They already did. They said it was "Working as intended."

Yup, right here on the first page:

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just wanted to follow up here. Thanks for the feedback so far. The Grim Focus glow is working as intended currently. However, we are monitoring player feedback on this. In feedback, please make sure to note why you like or dislike the glow, as we have seen player feedback regarding both.

So every whacky thing written about it here? Yeah, exactly as planned, with no glitches whatsoever.

ZOS_Kevin · May 24

Hi all. to reiterate here, it is working as intended. There are no plans right now to adjust The Grim Focus permaglow.

Araneae6537 · May 24

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all. to reiterate here, it is working as intended. There are no plans right now to adjust The Grim Focus permaglow.

Please please can ZOS STOP changing skill aesthetics??? Many of us choose our class to meld with our character concept, and many of us chose nightblade with the idea of creating rangers, theives, assassins who are stealthy and shadowy, not to mention that for many people the permaglow is uncomfortable or even painful to look at. We cannot change our class, so we’re left with changing how we play or abandoning a character.

I’m like Azandar that way, my brain cannot just filter it out.

By all means, add cosmetic options for those who want to flash and boom and glow in seven different colors, but by the Eight, make these OPTIONAL COSMETICS, PLEASE!

(Edit: Fixed typo.)

Lauranae · May 24

ZOS_Kevin wrote: » August 2023
Just wanted to follow up here. Thanks for the feedback so far. The Grim Focus glow is working as intended currently. However, we are monitoring player feedback on this. In feedback, please make sure to note why you like or dislike the glow, as we have seen player feedback regarding both

So considering your post as of today, with all respect du, you knew already that would not be changed.

I just feel totally ignored and pushed away from the game, knowing i explained that the issue was not only a cosmetic one but mainly a health one.

Well that's it for me. That is the too much. If you do not want me, i will find another way to spend my time with other games that do not slap me as you did today.

No need to answer me, i will just leave the game for good and delete every account i own (5) to be sure to never come back.

Muizer · May 24

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all. to reiterate here, it is working as intended. There are no plans right now to adjust The Grim Focus permaglow.

Wait, not even plans to ensure the effect aligns properly with the weapon? Because IMHO that's a bug. One could say a bug that was already there, but a bug nonetheless.

KlauthWarthog · May 24

Lauranae wrote: »

So considering your post as of today, with all respect du, you knew already that would not be changed.

Yup, this is what I believe as well.

Lauranae · May 24

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In case you did not beleive me, here are the 5 tickets send to support to delete my data and account.

If anything was fun in ESO, and helped me to go through hard health issue, it was YOU people. So thank you for all

YORKSHIRE76 · May 24

The weapon packs I purchased are NOT working as intended. The introduction of permaglow changed the way they looked in the crown store AFTER I bought them.
Is it worth asking for a refund again? Or will I just be told no tough luck?
The permaglow does not give any benefits to the skill, it is pointless.

Araneae6537 · May 24

Lauranae wrote: »

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In case you did not beleive me, here are the 5 tickets send to support to delete my data and account.

If anything was fun in ESO, and helped me to go through hard health issue, it was YOU people. So thank you for all

I had intended my previous post in this thread to be my last, but I wouod urge you not to actually delete your accounts, but rather take a break from the game. I feel your frustration and I too am really unhappy with how this was handled, although not surprised (hence my deleting some NB characters and no longer buying weapons styles). I was upset enough with other changes in 2022 to stop my sub for the first time and break from the game for a while, until what I missed was finally more than what upset me. That is why I would encourage you not to do anything so drastic as deleting accounts now, but take a break, and maybe you will want to come back eventually on one or more of them and play a different class or a different role. I’ve been trying NB healing and tanking, for instance.

In any case, I wish you all the best.