Personal skill is a huge part of success in PVP. Let's get that out of the way first. It's going to take a lot of learning by practice and failure before you start to make progress. Running with a group in voice comms instead of zerg surfing can help make that process a little easier.
You haven't told us much about your build or what you are doing. What buffs are you giving yourself access to, what are your gear traits, how do you ensure you have enough self-healing, CP setup, etc. Also know that legendary weapons are mandatory.
Personal skill is a huge part of success in PVP. Let's get that out of the way first. It's going to take a lot of learning by practice and failure before you start to make progress. Running with a group in voice comms instead of zerg surfing can help make that process a little easier.
You haven't told us much about your build or what you are doing. What buffs are you giving yourself access to, what are your gear traits, how do you ensure you have enough self-healing, CP setup, etc. Also know that legendary weapons are mandatory.
Impenetrable on everything, but jewelry. Jewelry is infused with spell damage. Heavy for the chest, necklace, legs, and weapons. Light for everything else.
As the title states, I followed online guides. Here there are. I copied everything.
https://dottzgaming.com/build/inferno-magicka-dragon-knight-pvp-build/
https://arzyelbuilds.com/magicka-dragonknight-pvp-build-eso/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/horror-magicka-necromancer-pvp-build/
https://gorilla-hq.com/high-isle-one-bar-ganker
Yes I know pvp takes skill. What I am looking for is how to kill players.
What am I missing? My friends and players can destroy me, but my damage seems to not be effective
I am using a stam nightblad, magicka necromancer and magicka DK. All of them seem underwhelming and not effective.
My Nightblade is a Kahjiit using oakensoul with legacy, Balogh, and order's wrath. When I go to gank in Cyrodill, they are too tanky and I die before I can escape.
My DK is running pariah, burning spell weave, and bloodspawn. The heals seem underwhelming and the dps is lacking. I was able to get up to 3300 spell damage, crit is very low and weapon is at 2500
My Magicka Necromancer was made into a bomber build. Dark convergence, balogh, and vicious death. Short story, a whispher told me that build is only good in ball groups.
I am lost. I know the learning curve is high, but not doing damage is frustrating. At this point, what can I do to increase my damage and give me a better fighting chance in 1/2 duels?
Personal skill is a huge part of success in PVP. Let's get that out of the way first. It's going to take a lot of learning by practice and failure before you start to make progress. Running with a group in voice comms instead of zerg surfing can help make that process a little easier.
You haven't told us much about your build or what you are doing. What buffs are you giving yourself access to, what are your gear traits, how do you ensure you have enough self-healing, CP setup, etc. Also know that legendary weapons are mandatory.
1) My Nightblade is a Kahjiit using oakensoul with legacy, Balogh, and order's wrath. When I go to gank in Cyrodill, they are too tanky and I die before I can escape.
2) My DK is running pariah, burning spell weave, and bloodspawn. The heals seem underwhelming and the dps is lacking. I was able to get up to 3300 spell damage, crit is very low and weapon is at 2500
3) My Magicka Necromancer was made into a bomber build. Dark convergence, balogh, and vicious death. Short story, a whispher told me that build is only good in ball groups.
I am lost. I know the learning curve is high, but not doing damage is frustrating. At this point, what can I do to increase my damage and give me a better fighting chance in 1/2 duels?
1) My Nightblade is a Kahjiit using oakensoul with legacy, Balogh, and order's wrath. When I go to gank in Cyrodill, they are too tanky and I die before I can escape.
2) My DK is running pariah, burning spell weave, and bloodspawn. The heals seem underwhelming and the dps is lacking. I was able to get up to 3300 spell damage, crit is very low and weapon is at 2500
3) My Magicka Necromancer was made into a bomber build. Dark convergence, balogh, and vicious death. Short story, a whispher told me that build is only good in ball groups.
I am lost. I know the learning curve is high, but not doing damage is frustrating. At this point, what can I do to increase my damage and give me a better fighting chance in 1/2 duels?
3) Does the Necro wear Harmony? Do you use an execute skill despite being a magicka class? That being said, yes, there are only very specific moments when this build shines (i.e. a mediocre guild group at a ram), and it is useless in every other situation.
2) DK: Give Oakensoul and Balorgh to your DK. Make him a Vamp. Get info on which skills you really REALLY need. )Typically you need Momentum, Mist Form, and a self-healing skill.
1) Play your DK first. People typically react to such gank builds by stacking as much defense as they neeed in order to avoid being ganked. One can overcome this, but not as a new player.
Duels are a different beast than Battlegrounds or Cyrodiil. You can’t build for one of those and expect it to work in the other two.
Also!!!!
Sometimes people are just better than you and that's okay. There is no one guide that can teach you how to kill everyone. There will always be someone better so you just have to take the deaths and learn from them. While I'm usually laughing at my deaths, I'm also looking back to see what I could have done better. So this too!
Ok my guy let me try and help. I’ve read through all the posts so far so I think I get the situation.
First of all, you need to finish your gear. You need every piece of gear enchanted, and weapons upgraded to gold. Gold quality enchants. You eventually want Prismatic Defence glyphs on all 7 armor pieces, but start with 3 on chest, helm, legs. These are expensive but worth their weight in gold. You can put the cheaper stamina or magicka glyphs on the small armor pieces until you can afford more prismatics. Pick your main resource.
Second, grind up skill points and max out your important skills like weapon skills and all three armor skills. You want every combat passive maxed out, these add up to a huge power boost. While we’re at it make sure all your abilities are at least morphed.
Third, make sure you have food buff on. Use a top tier food, I suggest starting with bewitched sugar skulls.
Fourth, get your bar set up optimally. Don’t be creative at first just put on the strongest most immediately impactful abilities you have. Make sure you have armor ability (buffs you with major resolve) and an ability that buffs your damage (buffs you with major brutality / sorcery). DKs front bar should be all class abilities, that’s my hint you put on the skills you think will most kill somebody when used together.
Fifth, grab a mundus either serpent or atronach.
Sixth, grab some Tristat potions.
And now go get good knowing that your build is reasonably competitive and actually gives you the practice you need to succeed.
Ok my guy let me try and help. I’ve read through all the posts so far so I think I get the situation.
First of all, you need to finish your gear. You need every piece of gear enchanted, and weapons upgraded to gold. Gold quality enchants. You eventually want Prismatic Defence glyphs on all 7 armor pieces, but start with 3 on chest, helm, legs. These are expensive but worth their weight in gold. You can put the cheaper stamina or magicka glyphs on the small armor pieces until you can afford more prismatics. Pick your main resource.
Second, grind up skill points and max out your important skills like weapon skills and all three armor skills. You want every combat passive maxed out, these add up to a huge power boost. While we’re at it make sure all your abilities are at least morphed.
Third, make sure you have food buff on. Use a top tier food, I suggest starting with bewitched sugar skulls.
Fourth, get your bar set up optimally. Don’t be creative at first just put on the strongest most immediately impactful abilities you have. Make sure you have armor ability (buffs you with major resolve) and an ability that buffs your damage (buffs you with major brutality / sorcery). DKs front bar should be all class abilities, that’s my hint you put on the skills you think will most kill somebody when used together.
Fifth, grab a mundus either serpent or atronach.
Sixth, grab some Tristat potions.
And now go get good knowing that your build is reasonably competitive and actually gives you the practice you need to succeed.
The sad part is I put on golded prismatic but can do no damage on a DK. Not a huge fan of the class. I have undaunted and run medium shoulder and light BSW. I stack to 3 and whip, but its like 5k damage its so sad.
I run atronach on him and use the tri potions I had stacks of from daily logins.
This has most likely already been said, but I wanted to add my voice because I experienced the same issue.
So, I started playing PVP seriously about a year ago, and I spent the first six months reading and watching builds, then spending all of my gold creating and golding out these builds. None of them ever worked for me, and I was dying with no kills. Today, these golded builds are still sitting in my bank and collecting dust.
It wasn't until I started actually making friends with pvpers that I realized a build can only get you so far. First, I had to learn how to fight in pvp and more specifically, how to fight with my class. I needed to better understand my abilities and practice on what works best for me. Only then could I select a build that is appropriate for my skills. I found that I am much better at being a ranged fighter than in any other form. Maybe one day I'll learn how to fight at close range, but for now I make builds that play to my strengths.
Also, Learn about buffs, CP points, crafting traits, and enchants. So I didn't know anything about traits, buffs, guild skills, or anything else for a while. As a result, I wasn't really creating builds to met my needs. I only found out about this a few months ago, and it has drastically changed my builds. When I made or purchased sets, I never applied any enchanting to them. I had no idea it was so important! Nor did I realize how much CP points played a part in pvp. Mostly because I never really needed all of that in pve, it is a lot easier than pvp. Which is why I love pvp.
You also need to learn about other classes and their abilities. Determine which faction does what and how to avoid it. Of course, each faction has a diverse set of classes and races. However, after a while of playing, you will notice certain people, groups, and so on. For example, ball groups, gankers, and bombers. These are the things I try to be aware of so that if a bomber approaches, I can either move away from them, kill them, or warn those around me. Whatever is most convenient at the time. I still die to gankers though...they give me nightmares.
So, for example, I recently switched to an inferno staff, not only because it does more damage, but also because it deals additional damage to vamps. To be honest, almost everyone in cyro is probably a vamp. Of course, not all, but many. When it comes to actual fighting and being more aggressive, I still have a lot to learn, but I believe that understanding your skills and strengths will be extremely beneficial when creating builds.
I'm not sure what build videos you watch, but I usually take advice from the following and then make it into my own by merging my own sets and or traits I like.
Sawman, Asian Mayhem, Luca Cash, Deltia, and MalcolM. I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones that come to me at the moment.